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Dryning

2012-07-16 08:41

N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Вообщем нужна помощь знающих людей(да кажется больше и негде её искать, только здесь),все мои попытки оживить n900 были безрезультатны,заранее скажу- читал ранее подобные темы,пробывал предложенные решения - результат нулевой.БАТАРЕЯ ЗАРЯЖЕНА,и не одна!
На днях n900 выключился и больше включаться не стал,при пуске-заставка нокиа,чёрный экран загрузки с белыми точками,дальше отключение.,со шнуром usb начинается циклическая перезагрузка,прошивка не помогает(vanilla не прошивается), запуск в режиме rd flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset -R ,900 запускается, но при заряженом аккумуляторе пишет батарея разряжена,при зарядке на экране пишет "нет заряда"(управление с rd режима работает,может оттуда что-то сделать),прошивка не помогает,назад flasher-3.5 --disable-rd-mode,замкнутый круг...Если есть решение подскажите,или это 0,01 % где не поможет прошивка и тд.
ЗАРАНИЕ СПАСИБО ЗА ЛЮБУЮ ПОМОЩЬ
Прошивать пробывал на всём-7,xp,linux и всё без толку(прошивался по инструкций)

Да и при пришивки VANILLA что-то не так,пытается загрузится в процессе прошивки.
http://p02.spaces.ru/p/341767388141/...a14/Snimok.JPG
После долгих мучений и переживаний за любимый кирпичик возникает вопрос-при ударе об стену n900,решит проблему с прошивкой навсегда?

Russe89

2012-07-16 08:47

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Windows 7 x64?

попробуи с Live-CD убунту...

/Edit: не вес пост прочетал...

Dave999

2012-07-16 08:52

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

what is this?

Dryning

2012-07-16 08:52

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

пробывал не помогает,через livecd ubuntu

ZogG	2012-07-16 08:57

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

meegos.ru or use english please.
пиши на англиском!!!!

Dryning

2012-07-16 09:03

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1238119)

meegos.ru or use english please.
пиши на англиском!!!!

In English, a bit confusing (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85268), did not understand in my posts, Google ghrome translator will translate into English,n900 to help, not with the English

ZogG	2012-07-16 09:40

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dryning (Post 1238121)

In English, a bit confusing (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85268), did not understand in my posts, Google ghrome translator will translate into English,n900 to help, not with the English

Sorry pal, but this is english speakers only here. Use website i gave you earlier.
К сожалению это англоязычный сайт, спроси на форуме куда я дал линк постом выше!

Dryning

2012-07-16 09:45

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1238137)

meegos.ru, there are no concrete answers, hope for maemo.org

Wikiwide

2012-07-16 10:23

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quick reply...
I could be a translator here, but I am mostly offline/unavailable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dryning (Post 1238110)

Help of competent people needed (it seems this website is the only place available), all my attempts to bring n900 back to life were unsuccessful, warning in advance - have read similar threads/topics, tried offered solutions - no result. BATTERY IS FULLY CHARGED, and not one (but more, several fully charged batteries)!
Several days ago, n900 turned off and doesn't turn on anymore.
When starting up - Nokia splash screen, black screen with five white dots, and then shutting down. With USB cable - cyclical reboot, reflashing doesn't help (vanilla cannot be flashed on), starting in mode "rd flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset -R", n900 starts up, but despite fully charged battery says that battery is zero, while charging writes on the screen "no charge"(manipulation from rd mode works, maybe something can be done here), flashing ("прошивка"? I don't fully understand this word) doesn't help, when exiting ("flasher-3.5 --disable-rd-mode") I return to vicious circle... If there is any solution, please, help, or is it the 0,01 % when reflashing doesn't help?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH BEFOREHAND FOR ANY HELP.
Reflashing tried on everything - "Windows 7", "Windows XP", Linux and no use (by instructions)

When trying to flash VANILLA, something is wrong, trying to start up during the process.
http://p02.spaces.ru/p/341767388141/...a14/Snimok.JPG
After long suffering and worrying for the beloved brick, the question appears - would collision of n900 and a wall solve the problem with flashing once and for all?

I would say, since the battery is fully charged, and the device doesn't agree with that, that the charger (more precisely, the sensor of the battery charge) inside N900 is broken. But I know nil about hardware problems (I have had some problems, when N900 would suddenly decide to shut down as if battery was zero, and I still don't know whether battery or charge-sensor should be blamed for that; but, at least, it's not dead yet, and I'm thankful).
So, would anybody try to understand the problem with flasher? Since there is a screenshot, and it's easier to repair from distance, unlike possible hardware problem. It would be such a relief if flasher did resolve the problem, after all...
If I understand correctly, Dryning, you have not managed to reflash correctly since the problem started? I have not reflashed my n900 in such a long time that I don't comprehend the screenshot you provided; hopefully, somebody understands it better.
http://p02.spaces.ru/p/341767388141/...a14/Snimok.JPG

geneven

2012-07-16 10:34

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

I think this is an unusually difficult problem if the description is accurate. How are the batteries being charged?

Perhaps this is a hardware problem, as suggested. I wonder if someone like Estel has an idea.

Dryning

2012-07-16 11:32

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

the battery charge through nokia 5228.начало problems:is installed kernel for power,for Qt Mobile Hotspot(all were on ura),ceased to work SPB TV(spb tv deleted),in Extras, Extras-Testing, Extras-Devel(through Faster Application Manager) not litter in what has found tv(on searching for) has installed(+ 12 programs with ney),did not understand in her,has deleted(deleted only 10(?)),cleaned up the tails(filebox)может spare has deleted,but all worked,was afterwards disconnected(through 2-4 hour)i all n900 dead body.

Wikiwide

2012-07-16 12:37

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dryning (Post 1238180)

Trying to clean up a bit (it would have been easier to read original language, before Google Translate twisted it?).

The battery has been charged through nokia 5228.
Start of the problems: installed kernel for power, for Qt Mobile Hotspot (everything was fine), uninstalled/deleted SPB TV, in Extras, Extras-Testing, Extras-Devel (through Faster Application Manager) not litter in what has found tv (on searching for) has installed (+ 12 programs with it), did not understand in it, has deleted(deleted only 10(?)), cleaned up the tails (filebox) maybe spare has deleted, but all worked, was afterwards disconnected (through 2-4 hour); and n900 dead body.

So: you installed "kernel for power" and "Qt Hotspot for Mobile", everything was fine, you uninstalled/deleted (through Faster Application Manager?) "SPB TV", then cleaned up "unneeded" apps which were required by "SPB TV" ("apt-get autoremove" might have worked nicely, instead of doing it manually?), everything still worked, then N900 was disconnected from something (WiFi? Internet? USB cable? Shut-down?), and could not be turned on anymore?

Could it be that you occasionally uninstalled some absolutely necessary package, related to battery charging, or is my suggestion absurd?

Dryning

2012-07-16 12:52

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

spbtv deleted did not work on the kernel for power, cleans for an unknown TV program and spbtv.probably deleted the wrong thing, delete folders, remote applications

corbas

2012-07-16 13:01

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

SD inside? Try to remove. SIM inside? Try without reboot. Alas it seems its end of homework.

Dryning

2012-07-16 13:15

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by corbas (Post 1238215)

SD inside? Try to remove. SIM inside? Try without reboot. Alas it seems its end of homework.

flash drive is not worth it, tried it with and without the sim, the result is 0, without rebooting, and tried to boot, the result is 0, may, with the p&d mode what to do

Wikiwide

2012-07-16 13:31

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quick reply...
Could you try the following commands (as root; I use "sudo gainroot" command) on N900 itself (I do them in X Terminal), while in "rd mode" (since it's the only way to have N900 working at all)?

apt-get update
(This command requires Internet available; if there is no Internet on N900 at this time, you can skip it and see what the second one says)

apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr

In normal circumstances, it should tell you "mp-fremantle-generic-pr is already the newest version." It would mean that Maemo and all its essential packages are installed and up-to-date (as far as apt-get knows).

You can also try
apt-get check
to verify that there are no broken dependencies.

Could you specify a bit more about what folders you deleted?

Dryning

2012-07-16 14:19

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

rd mode:
"sudo gainroot"-not found
apt-get update-
E-could not open lock file /var/lib/art/lists/lock-open (3 Permission denied)
E:Unable to lock the list directory

apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr-
E-could not open lock file /var/lib/art/dpkg/lock-open (13 Permission denied)
E:Unable to lock the administration directory(/var/lib/dpkg/),are you root?
apt-get check-
E-could not open lock file /var/lib/art/dpkg/lock-open (13 Permission denied)
E:Unable to lock the administration directory(/var/lib/dpkg/),are you root?

in rd mode: sim works, the Internet has
come-update
Maemo 5
put rootsh

Dryning

2012-07-16 14:37

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

sudo gainroot-yes
apt-get update-yes
apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr-
many letters
Do you want to continue (Y/n)?
apt-get check-
Reading package lists...Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state infomation...Done

Wikiwide

2012-07-16 14:47

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quick reply...

I don't know how you start commands as root... without package providing "sudo gainroot". Do you remember your root password? I don't.
Edit: "sudo gainroot" works for you, good.

Anyhow, just check whether there are any broken dependencies and whether you have package "mp-fremantle-generic-pr" installed. I have not used a graphical user interface for managing apps in ages, but you know Faster Application Manager fairly well.
Edit: You have done that.

It may be pure insanity, but what about cold flashing? Cold flashing is rarely ever needed and not recommended for end users. It's meant only to recover from a defect or outdated NOLO bootloader.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher
Edit: Forget about flasher for now.

Update:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dryning (Post 1238241)

sudo gainroot-yes
apt-get update-yes
apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr-many letters
Do you want to continue (Y/n)?

Yes, I want to continue. "mp-fremantle-generic-pr" is an essential package - Maemo itself. It has to be installed at all times, in my opinion, or everything might fall apart. This package guarantees that all basic necessities are installed and updated, from drivers to clock, camera, calendar, chess and everything else.

Dryning

2012-07-16 16:28

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

sudo gainroot-yes
apt-get update-yes
apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr-yes
apt-get check-
Reading package lists...Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state infomation...Done
what to do next?

All done restart, the whole battery, n900 rebooted itself, and again everything is the same, with released rd mode all without mutations both back to the rd, and what to do?

Wikiwide

2012-07-16 23:00

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dryning (Post 1238288)

So now "mp-fremantle-generic-pr" is installed, and the problem still persists...
What about flashing, or cold flashing (if the bootloader is damaged)?
http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_f.../Cold_Flashing
I wouldn't know why flasher would not work... I hope these pages help.

Dryning

2012-07-17 10:00

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_f.../Cold_Flashing
flasher-3.5 -c -h RX-51:2101 -2 2nd.bin-RX-51\:2101\,2102\,2103 -s secondary.bin-RX-51\:2101\,2102\,2103 -S usb
2nd.bin-rx-51\:2101\,2102\,2103: no such file or directory
that is not so?

Dryning

2012-07-17 10:18

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

I probably went to Nokia service center.
Let them suffer!

Dryning

2012-09-06 10:55

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

service center has not helped

Dryning

2012-09-06 10:56

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

who have something to offer?, the new buying?

reinob

2012-09-06 11:40

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Forget cold flashing (your boot loader is fine).

If your N900 boots fine with R&D mode but not when R&D is disabled, it means some startup service is dying when it shouldn't be dying.

The best option would be to reflash. You (apparently) tried it already and it didn't work. Try again, following the instructions in the Wiki *to* *the* *letter* and post here *exactly* the output you get when running the flasher tool.

Dryning

2012-09-09 08:25

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Vanilla fails to reflash n900,n900 enabled during reflashing Vanilla,and how-to reflash

Dryning

2012-09-09 09:06

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

may be a problem with usb?

Dryning

2012-10-04 16:52

Re: N900 умирает,специалисты где ВЫ?

Thank you all, I bought a new n900

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