Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1240723)

whenever i've had that issue i either purchase the app again if its a nominal amount or i email to nokia support and tell them after my phone was sent to nokia care my apps are missing and i'm having this issue...the latter always works out...

P.S. don't tell them you flashed the phone as then they really become a pain...

Originally Posted by Dousan (Post 1240747)

Why do they lock paid apps after xx times of downloads?

We need something like Titanium backup for the N9 then the issue is solved.

Regards Dousan...

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1240757)

What different it make? I bought it, so they have to make the way to me to MY app! There is no point of online non physical data, if i have not access all the time.. Why anyone buy online anything if they ruing it that way? example, i bought Starcraft 2 and it is dvd, wooow i can install it how many time i like to my pc. That is normal, ovi store way to do it, is not!

If i install all HD games on my N9. There is no room for the new one.. so i HAVE TO remove old games and maybe reload them later if i want to use/play them later? So 5x download limit shrink very fast...

I going to call the "consumer Protection" (kuluttaja-asiamies) on Monday.

Originally Posted by XiliX (Post 1240762)

I dont agree with this policy, but its a very usual situation for appstores. Playstation Network uses this policy too, so its not something unique to OVI. And, iirc, its stated in the term and conditions of ovi, so you could have known in advance.

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1240763)

what i am saying is basically giving you another way for you to ensure that they make YOUR app available to YOU by you telling them you sent it to Nokia Care, your apps are missing and now you want to download them...then they do open it up for you...i think you've got me wrong...

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1225142)

Currently there is no public way. I might be releasing my backup application for coding competition (which also has ovi store applications downloader&reinstallation functionality), but I haven't yet decided if I will release my application to public or should I just keep it private.

PS. and its a bad idea to try to flash different variants, since then you cannot downgrade back to vanilla variant anymore.

Originally Posted by gionni88 (Post 1240721)

If I'm not wrong they have raised the download count to 10, but I'm with you, having a limited numbers of downloads available for purchased contents is silly. Users who tink their devices and need to reflash often reach those caps very fast.

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 1240930)

"no public way"
I can solve that

1. create folder like /home/user/MyDocs/Temp
2. open terminal, get root
3. type this, DO NOT PRESS ENTER! cp -a /var/cache/apt /home/user/MyDocs/Temp
4. go to store, download app/game
5. (wait until progress bar for downloading is complete)
6. go to terminal, hit enter

Originally Posted by XiliX (Post 1240762)

I dont agree with this policy, but its a very usual situation for appstores. Playstation Network uses this policy too, so its not something unique to OVI. And, iirc, its stated in the term and conditions of ovi, so you could have known in advance.

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1240820)

I believe it's at least 10 these days, though i believe it was raised to 15 receantly?
Anyways, it's silly and OVI Store is horrible. To me the most irritating part is still search and lack of apps coming from iOS and WP user these days.

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1240757)

I bought it, so they have to make the way to me to MY app!

Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1241523)

It is not YOUR app. You never bought it.
All you bought is a license to use it. And according to the terms [1] you accepted when signing up for the OVI store Nokia can revoke that license at any time without offering any compensation.

Frankly, I don't understand why you're complaining. You knew the terms in advance and you accepted them. Otherwise you would have never signed up for the store.

[1] http://store.ovi.com/legal/terms

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1241535)

You think many of people will like this kind of methods!?

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1241535)

So if i should reading that, why the Ovi do not add the 5x download only warning to the store??? You think people will buy anything anymore? I think not and i think you think that too :D.

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1241535)

Therefore the Ovi hidden it! It would seem that not many people have not read those terms ;)

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1241535)

Is that the world you want to living in? "buy online data witch can be taken away from you!?"

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1241535)

Where is your balls?

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1241535)

If i buy a movie.. Nobody not going to take it away from me, so why in this case they will?

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1241689)

Sulu, thank you, but you do not helping. If you are happy the way it is, i am happy for you.

Originally Posted by Makeclick

But i am not happy, so i complain.

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 1240930)

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 1241725)

You could not possibly have understood what he said, if you think he is happy with the way things are.


And when the day is over, do the multi-billion dollar/euro/yen/whatever corporations have any less power to screw you over the way ovi store screws everyone over with the download limit, because you complained? No. Complaining is onky useful for 1: spreading the truth about a problem people are unaware of, and 2: telling a huge company or political power that the world is not okay with their policies.

But your complaining is insufficiently informed to fulfill criteria 1 fully (sulu's statements, on the other hand, ARE actually spreading accurate information about the problem, and ARE a form of disagreement/complaining), and it's directed to the wrong people to even begin to qualify for criteria 2.

On the other hand, it's better than nothing, so by all means keep complaining, it does raise awareness and brings people's dissatisfaction with the system to the surface. But don't get the misguided notion that just because someone is correcting you on your misconceptions, they aren't actually also dissatisfied with the same problem. Because in this case, you obviously missed the fact that even though sulu is correcting you, he not only understands the problem more (at least, the U.S.A. version of the problem, although copyright basics are almost the same everywhere), but he is actually being more useful towards eradicating that problem than you (not by much, but more nonetheless).


You know, someone should really make a script and throw it in the repos with some basic GUI, that automates this.

You could run it before any ovi-store installs, and it would do, in pseudocode:
while ('ls /var/cache/apt' returns no text)
{
wait 1 second
}
cp -a /var/ca.....

Hell, wrap it up in some better code, and it could execute that inside another loop, and print out output to console every time it copies a file over.

And the best thing is, at least in U.S. law (and I would hope most laws elsewhere), that's 100% legal, because you're allowed your 1 archival copy.

Then just slap it in the repos.

...why has no one done this yet?