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vicscraft 2012-07-26 09:47

N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Is it possible? Already bought extgps from ovi, but its not working.

smcsa 2012-07-26 10:54

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
I have no issues with ExtGPS on PR 1.3. What's your's ? What is not working ?

vicscraft 2012-07-26 12:02

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
I'm on openmode PR1.3 with nitdroid installed. It's running but my pc or my other handsets can't detect it as external gps. Please teach me how you did it... Thanks in advance...

DarkSkies 2012-07-26 12:06

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Yeah, ExtGPS works for me just fine over bluetooth.

vicscraft 2012-07-26 12:19

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
What is your client device? I am trying to connect my garmin pc app on win7 pc. No luck...

smcsa 2012-07-26 12:49

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Nokia E61, Google Maps work fine
Win 7 / 64, Google Earth work fine

vicscraft 2012-07-26 13:32

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
thanks smcsa, i am now convinced that extgps is working fine. will try it further...

smcsa 2012-07-26 13:38

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
In Device and Printers is everything OK ? Maybe it is some troubleshooting to resolve (exclamation mark with yellow triangle on N9 device) ?
When i try to conect first time (as regular user), some drivers are missing, but when repeate as admin, Windows install this drivers.

canne 2012-07-30 21:29

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
ExtGPS couldn't detect the satellites on N9 while the Symbian version on my old 5230 gets a fix at the same time.

After Bluetooth pairing between N9 and 5230, did N9 Settings -> Device: use external GPS - found 5230 OK.
- ExtGPS on N9 still fails (Bluetooth connection established OK, 5230 has got a GPS fix)
- gpsmeefo, N9 car navigator, none of them works, either with internal or external GPS.

Only thing I get is a crappy GSM estimation on Nokia Maps, either from supl.nokia.com or supl.google.com, which I have set alternatively in /etc/xdg/nokia/location-settings.conf :confused:
- gpsmeefo shows a few satellites with internal GPS activated again, but does not get a GPS fix.

Anybody out there with the same problem, can this be a hardware problem since a few satellites are seen by gpsmeefo?

And/or is there anybody having successfully used an external GPS device over Bluetooth, what ever model? (using 5230 would not bother me if I have got a hardware problem). Thanks !

smcsa 2012-07-31 05:11

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
I think you have an GPS hardware issue.

rainisto 2012-07-31 06:53

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canne (Post 1245126)
ExtGPS couldn't detect the satellites on N9 while the Symbian version on my old 5230 gets a fix at the same time.

After Bluetooth pairing between N9 and 5230, did N9 Settings -> Device: use external GPS - found 5230 OK.
- ExtGPS on N9 still fails (Bluetooth connection established OK, 5230 has got a GPS fix)
- gpsmeefo, N9 car navigator, none of them works, either with internal or external GPS.

Only thing I get is a crappy GSM estimation on Nokia Maps, either from supl.nokia.com or supl.google.com, which I have set alternatively in /etc/xdg/nokia/location-settings.conf :confused:
- gpsmeefo shows a few satellites with internal GPS activated again, but does not get a GPS fix.

Anybody out there with the same problem, can this be a hardware problem since a few satellites are seen by gpsmeefo?

And/or is there anybody having successfully used an external GPS device over Bluetooth, what ever model? (using 5230 would not bother me if I have got a hardware problem). Thanks !

How many hours have you kept device outdoors in open area to get the initial gps fix? If its been hours and no big buildings are blocking, then you might have hardware problem, but if its been only tens of minutes or have tried indoors then not. Like if you can see few satelities in gpsmeefo, then it just means that its confused about your location and might get a fix after testing all locations in random order.

canne 2012-07-31 07:15

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smcsa (Post 1245248)
I think you have an GPS hardware issue.

Fair enough, gambled purchasing from Amazon. I lost.

But is it reasonably to expect that an External GPS device would work over Bluetooth (see above) ?

canne 2012-07-31 07:30

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1245278)
How many hours have you kept device outdoors in open area to get the initial gps fix?.

I've kept it on terrace for a couple of hours with Drive app on. Ok, there's a building but 5230 next to N9 got the fix in 15 seconds. Then a few hours during hiking and half an hour drive phone in the windscreen cradle, no charger.

But wait, the full story: the phone is a bargain from Amazon, a New York based company selling obviously a stock of Vietnamese branded N9's (yeah, I wanted so badly to have one :rolleyes: stupid me). It was v1.2, I changed the product code to France where I live and flashed both the system and the country contents with v1.3.

Could there be some Southern hemisphere adjustments (this is a pure guess) in GPS receiver firmware? Maybe there's an image for flashing that part...

smcsa 2012-07-31 07:36

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canne (Post 1245289)
Could there be some Southern hemisphere adjustments (this is a pure guess) in GPS receiver firmware?

Probably not. Because people from Southern hemisphere also travel around the globe.

canne 2012-07-31 07:39

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smcsa (Post 1245291)
Probably not. Because people from Southern hemisphere also travel around the globe.

:D
Sure, me too. I was thinking more something like a preset.
--- add --
Googled this dude from Western Australia who complain about "southern hemisphere only bug" in N9 GPS in May 12th.
http://whrl.pl/RdbkPO
But maybe he is not travelling enough.
Anyway, this thread is about External GPS so I better step out. Thanks.
-- end --

thedead1440 2012-07-31 08:16

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smcsa (Post 1245291)
Probably not. Because people from Southern hemisphere also travel around the globe.

this...Ladies & Gentlemen...IS the Comment of the Day!!!

crisscross 2012-07-31 08:44

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Anybody had any luck connecting to an ipad 3? It works with extgps for symbian and airblue gps for ios(jailbreaked of course) but I have no luck with the N9.

vicscraft 2012-07-31 08:51

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
hi smcsa, I was able to connect extgps to Garmin PC via serial port profile (after installing Toshiba Bluetooth stack). Problem is, Garmin reads extgps data differently. I also tried Google Earth, still having weird gps data.... any advise?

smcsa 2012-07-31 09:02

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Sorry, no ideea.

crisscross 2012-08-01 09:52

Re: N9 as external bluetooth GPS?
 
Is it any way to check if the service from extgps really is announced on the serial port? Any terminal commands?
I see that I am not the only one with problems discovering the symarctic service. I have tried:
win7: bluesoleil drivers, windows generic drivers
Ipad 3: Airblue GPS, BTstack GPS

All of the above finds my bluetooth GPS dongle fine but not the ExtGPS service on the N9.


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