Fate of Qt
 

Looks like Nokia is going further down, and next victim of Nokia's suicide deal with MS will be Qt:

http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermai...st/005467.html

http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermai...st/005478.html

http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermai...read.html#5484

Any thoughts?

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Sad news.

Qt won't disappear but development pace will slow down for sure.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

RIM can be a potential buyer here. What about Jolla? They are a startup focused on entering the market. Probably would be hard for them to hire the whole core Qt team.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Not a shock. Once Nokia became...well I'm not going to say what they became, but when it happened, there was no place for Qt at Nokia.

Hopefully, it finds a home someplace.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Ah man not QT I had my money on Elop selling the Nokia brandname somewhere now that they came up with the brilliant "Lumia" name.

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I don't really care about Nokia brand anymore, but I do care for Qt.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Yeah this is really concerning. Qt is a really powerful framework, Qt creator is a pretty good IDE. Developers need this stuff because it was cross platform. Learn once, use anywhere. I hope it gets saved somehow.

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There is a warning on the 3rd email that you are not to publish it publicly so you might want to remove the links. That being said maybe they can pray to the "job creators." Oh, wait no, they're hiding their money in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes not reinvesting it to "create jobs."
Elop, this guy, at this point I'm wondering how many bodyguards he has. I would think he'd get randomly punched by Finnish public.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

And yet the implimentation of Qt in WP could have helped boost the development of its app market place? Qt could also have been the big differentiator for Lumias WP platform against all other manufactures but Flop and those pulling his strings just want to dispose of all of nokias assets.

They saw nokia as a Burning Platform but their intentions were to leave it as Scorched Earth.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Actually its not gloom and doom...IIRC qgil himself was of the opinion that Nokia selling off Qt would be better as Qt would get the freedom and range to grow further and better...While I hate whatever Nokia is doing, this move might just be a good thing to see Qt live on...

Re: Fate of Qt
 

It's on the public mailing list - too late for "not to publish it" thing if you ask me.

Surely, in the current situation Qt has no place within Nokia - it'd be only stagnating there under constant shadow of MS. But let's see who will pour resource in Qt from now on.

MS can't stand cross platform technologies in WP, since WP serves as an examplary Micrsofot lock-in. That's why you'll never see Qt or OpenGL there. WP is a total dead end.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

This was no surprise, was it? At least the situation became clear now and we know for sure that Nokia has no further use for Qt.
It's a sad day for those being employed by Nokia to work on Qt, but it's the best thing that could currently happen to Qt. To finally get out of Nokia's lethal grip. Qt will certainly have a future, while Nokia will have none.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Since when was this a NEWS? Will people here NEVER wakeup!?

Btw WHY do people ever CARE what Nokia is doing?

I am sure Qt will survive without Nokia:

If people here really care bout Qt:

contribute
send bugreports
test Qt 5

but STOP cry about Nokia. We already knows this! Its NOT a news!

I am also sure those fired engineers at Nokia will start new cool companys so for **** sake stop cry about Nokia!

Tyu
 

Nope I dont beleive RIM will buy Qt! If RIM buys QT it not good. Because RIM is as crisis as Nokia.

however Qt will survive but as already said: development will be slow down for short run.

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It is just boilerplate corporate e-mail signatures. The best is when there is an MS Outlook top-posting bonanza thread with about 1100 of those signatures at the bottom.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Have you seen anyone of those at the Nokia top who has ever cared about old Nokia latelly?

Where is that man who was talk about N9? The man who people here thinked was "the good guy, he is on our side" yeah right probadly in bed with Microsoft aready... Probadly gor alot of cash going in bed with WP platform because he dont give a **** about Linux and FOSS move.
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Or more like, do you really think Elop is the only one at the Nokia top to blame!?

Ever heard of investors, capitalism and so on?

Re: Fate of Qt
 

I didn't say that RIM buying Qt assets would be good (since RIM is in crisis). I said it's a possible scenario of what can happen (after all it's Nokia deciding to whom to sell and etc.).

Getting out from Nokia's grip is all fine, except that with less financial backing it can simply slow down Qt development for other reasons (lack of resources). For projects like LibreOffice getting out of Sun/Oracle's grip was indeed beneficial, but LibreOffice had good developers backing. Let's hope Qt will have it too.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

related :

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTE1MTc

Re: Fate of Qt
 

related :

http://rzr.online.fr/q/qt#more

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTE1MTc

Re: Fate of Qt
 

There are many with developer interests in Qt. Take e.g. RIM, HP, Intel (Tizen IVI uses Qt heavily), KADB, Digia, ICS, Jolla, the KDE project, Plasma Active, etc.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

The good thing is, as Nokia needs money, it is in their interest to find a buyer that will pay good money for Qt, ie a buyer with strong interest in the Qt tech. So it's Nokia's interest that Qt ends with someone with a strong interest in it, and enough money. Which are in my op two good things for the various communities around.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

You should take a look at this:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/7694...eas?source=msn

Re: Fate of Qt
 

isn't canonical also using qml in unity?

anyway I think its save to say that QT has more payed devs than GTK+

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Only if the new company knows how to work with FOSS...

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Are you implying Nokia knew?

Re: Fate of Qt
 

Nokia with all the shortcomings did make Qt openly governed, and even released it under LGPL in the first place. Trolltech didn't as you know. Which caused the whole thing with appearance of Gnome, while there was a big effort in KDE already.

Re: Fate of Qt
 

QtLocation and Qt3D components will not be modules but add-ons because of Nokia decision to close Brisbane office:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTE1Mjg

Re: Fate of Qt
 

I just find it rather sad that in the beginning of 2010, it was announced that Qt was going to be THE programming platform for Nokia, with it being supported on Symbian and Maemo, then MeeGo was announced, then Elop was hired, then... well we know the rest from early 2011.

Now they're going under, firing the Qt devs, then they'll sell off the trademarks, then they'll... well burn basically.

Occasionally I see people say "oh, don't blame Elop, all the share holders are behind him." well, those share holders want to make money, right? There must have been some sort of contract that they signed saying they couldn't oust Elop unless certain conditions were met. Maybe they're stuck with him a minimum of 3 years. Either way, whatever happened, they can't be all that happy that the stock has plummeted. Maybe he spiked them with some really good LSD, or is sharing his premium crop of marijuana. That's about as much sense as I can make of it...

slaapliedje

Re: Fate of Qt
 

I'm still heavily developing and porting my projects to all Qt Devices and Platforms I own.

If Nokia don't release Qt stuff and devices in the future it's the problem of Nokia, not mine. Personally I see no future for Nokia without a powerfull application framework. I'm glad Qt is open source. BlackBerry and Jolla are my next targets.

Now that Nokia steps out of the game Samsung could be more interested to adopt Qt for Tizen. They were in the past afraid the big player Nokia could have to much influence in Qt and qml. At least as far as I understood this was the reason for Samsung to don't adopt MeeGo and go the html5 way.

If Nokia would have supported 2 platforms in their "ecosystem" I would have been fine with Windows Phone and would have ported perhaps some of my stuff over to WP since I already use .NET at work. But without competitive Smartphones which attracks my own needs I see no reason to release anything for the dying ecosystem Stephen Elop loved. WP is just not competitive.

Rest in Peace Nokia. You were a faithful companion the past 17 years... now somebody else will make a aging geek happy!