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powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 10:59

[idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
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i really like a simple desktop but informative desktop and i was wondering if any one was interested in a continuous scrolling dock bar where all information and widgets could be displayed, placed and editied

the dock bark could be deleted with different colors ect tried to show



thanks powderhousemesage

powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 11:04

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
oh also forgot to add you can access the app menu with a button and could possibly pull up more information?
i don't know how hard this would be to make and if its at all possible?

thanks powderhousemessage

marmistrz 2012-08-11 11:06

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by powderhousemessage (Post 1250401)
oh also forgot to add you can access the app menu with a button and could possibly pull up more information?
i don't know how hard this would be to make and if its at all possible?

thanks powderhousemessage

It's a nice idea. But to be honest, I'd prefer gesture-based window management! ;)

powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 11:21

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1250404)
It's a nice idea. But to be honest, I'd prefer gesture-based window management! ;)

curious sounds interesting :cool:

thanks:)


it's just i dont actually use any widgets or app short cuts or anything just have a picture as i quite like them :D so just wanted basic information at a glance but not cluttering

marmistrz 2012-08-11 11:23

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by powderhousemessage (Post 1250410)
thanks

feel incredibly stupid but what is that? picture?

The thing you have on MeeGo/WebOS:
webos: swipe up to minimize, drag and swipe up again to close
meego: swipe down to close, swipe up/horizontally to minimize

powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 11:34

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1250413)
The thing you have on MeeGo/WebOS:
webos: swipe up to minimize, drag and swipe up again to close
meego: swipe down to close, swipe up/horizontally to minimize

sounds interesting :p

i dont actually use any widgets or app short cuts or anything just have a picture as i quite like them :D so just wanted basic information at a glance but not cluttering


is any one doing either ?

thanks for explaining:cool:

marmistrz 2012-08-11 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by powderhousemessage (Post 1250419)
sounds interesting :p

i dont actually use any widgets or app short cuts or anything just have a picture as i quite like them :D so just wanted basic information at a glance but not cluttering


is any one doing either ?

thanks for explaining:cool:

no, but it's very nice way to multitask :)

powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 11:51

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that's a real shame :(
wish i could program downloaded the sdk got brain freeze have no idea know where to start!


sigh :rolleyes: hopefully could be done by someone....

wonder if i should download maemeemo but just the dock bar bit?

marmistrz 2012-08-11 12:03

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by powderhousemessage (Post 1250431)
that's a real shame :(
wish i could program downloaded the sdk got brain freeze have no idea know where to start!


sigh :rolleyes: hopefully could be done by someone....

wonder if i should download maemeemo but just the dock bar bit?

Code:

apt-get source qbw-nemo-dockbar

powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 12:12

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
went to clean N900 xterminal with root
got this

NOKIA N900:~$ apt -get source qbw nemo-dockbar
reading package lists...done
building dependency tree
reading state information....done

E. you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources. list
Nokia -N900 :~$

DO I NEED QBW INSTALLED?

marmistrz 2012-08-11 12:22

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by powderhousemessage (Post 1250439)
went to clean N900 xterminal with root
got this

NOKIA N900:~$ apt -get source qbw nemo-dockbar
reading package lists...done
building dependency tree
reading state information....done

E. you must put some 'source' URIs in your sources. list
Nokia -N900 :~$

DO I NEED QBW INSTALLED?

Add this to your sources.list
Code:

deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel fremantle free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel fremantle free


powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 12:55

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
[QUOTE=marmistrz;1250445]Add this to your sources.list
Code:

deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel fremantle free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel fremantle free

[/QUOT

apologies but what is .source list
typed into xterminal assuming this is not what you meant lol

-sh: deb: not found (first line)

-sh : deb src: not found (second )

do i need to enable extra devel in repositories as i have not got it

almost close to perfect n900 :D

anthonie 2012-08-11 13:50

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I'd love to have a cont. scrollingbar to further "unclutter" my desktops, but I'd hate to have to use QWB. No way around it, I suppose?

marmistrz 2012-08-11 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonie (Post 1250472)
I'd love to have a cont. scrollingbar to further "unclutter" my desktops, but I'd hate to have to use QWB. No way around it, I suppose?

We'd have to mess with hildon-desktop (or something) or create a widget from scratch

powderhousemessage 2012-08-11 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1250495)
We'd have to mess with hildon-desktop (or something) or create a widget from scratch

would you be willing to give this a try .... making a widget from scratch?

would happily donate and test :D

marmistrz 2012-08-12 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by powderhousemessage (Post 1250498)
would you be willing to give this a try .... making a widget from scratch?

would happily donate and test :D

To quote Soundgarden, "might do it". But not now. After the coding competition ;)
EDIT: and I don't promise I'll be successful

electroaudio 2012-08-15 08:54

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1250875)
To quote Soundgarden, "might do it". But not now. After the coding competition ;)
EDIT: and I don't promise I'll be successful

It is not possible to use any kind of gestures within hildon except for singleclick, you will open up the hildonconfiguration if you try.

Support my suggestion in the CSSU thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...85#post1243185
-And when hildon is fixed, then i would be able to write that dockbar within an hour.

seanmcken 2012-08-15 15:31

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i'd like to have swipe on n900

electroaudio 2012-08-15 17:28

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1252200)
i'd like to have swipe on n900

Swipe will steal useable gestures, like scrolling for examlpe, unless it only is done in certain areas where there shouldnt have been any use of them anyway.

And i dont understand what stealing gestures should have for use on a N900 either, on a lumia or a iphone then yes, but not on a N900, no...
Sorry but, I just cant imagine that a swipe-user actually is in the usercategory that wouldnt be more happy with an another kind of phone.
So, I would say that to get swipe, just sell the N900 and buy a swipephone.

(On the other hand, if the right section of the sourcecode is located , then nothing will prevent gestures from being made userconfigurable either and swipe could be put in the bottom below everything else..)

electroaudio 2012-08-15 17:34

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electroaudio (Post 1252049)
It is not possible to use any kind of gestures within hildon except for singleclick, you will open up the hildonconfiguration if you try.

Support my suggestion in the CSSU thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...85#post1243185
-And when hildon is fixed, then i would be able to write that dockbar within an hour.

I updated the cssu thread with a link to hildon sourcecode.
Anyone that can pinpoint where in the sources the gestures gets interrupted?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=213

seanmcken 2012-08-15 18:00

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atleast we should have qml kinda UI for full OS. cuz smoothness is more important. if im wrong then im sorry

electroaudio 2012-08-15 18:04

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1252273)
atleast we should have qml kinda UI for full OS. cuz smoothness is more important. if im wrong then im sorry

Sorry; but what is QML UI ??

c4rl05 2012-08-15 19:12

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1252273)
atleast we should have qml kinda UI for full OS. cuz smoothness is more important. if im wrong then im sorry

for this idea of continous bar i think qml will do a great job, i dont like the idea of full os being in qml, sometimes qt to me feels great

electroaudio 2012-08-15 19:49

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c4rl05 (Post 1252296)
for this idea of continous bar i think qml will do a great job, i dont like the idea of full os being in qml, sometimes qt to me feels great

I dont think it would matter what language a continous bar is written in ;) As soon as the scrollbar is populated by the program, the program itself will go to sleep, and the scrolling is all taken care of by the OS anyway.

But as long as the OS, or more presicely Hildon-desktop, actively prevents gestures to scroll the bar, then it is useless.

Code:

import gtk
import hildondesktop

class HelloHomePlugin(hildondesktop.HomePluginItem):
    def __init__(self):
        hildondesktop.HomePluginItem.__init__(self)

 /*add code for a scrollable pane here, and populate it with its contents*/


seanmcken 2012-08-16 02:38

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@electroaudio
like the graphics of cute rube qml

marmistrz 2012-08-16 10:07

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electroaudio (Post 1252254)
Swipe will steal useable gestures, like scrolling for examlpe, unless it only is done in certain areas where there shouldnt have been any use of them anyway.

And i dont understand what stealing gestures should have for use on a N900 either, on a lumia or a iphone then yes, but not on a N900, no...
Sorry but, I just cant imagine that a swipe-user actually is in the usercategory that wouldnt be more happy with an another kind of phone.
So, I would say that to get swipe, just sell the N900 and buy a swipephone.

(On the other hand, if the right section of the sourcecode is located , then nothing will prevent gestures from being made userconfigurable either and swipe could be put in the bottom below everything else..)

But we can make our onwn gesture system ;)

electroaudio 2012-08-16 10:35

Re: [idea]N900 Continuous scrolling bar with info?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1252525)
But we can make our onwn gesture system ;)

Yes, we kan do what we want :)

And from what i suspect now, it is something called clutter that interprets gestures and draws the desktop, so it is probably very easy to do that too, if only the (source-) code gets broken :rolleyes: so we know where and what to do...


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