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Nokia N9 video codecs required to play 1080p
Helloo, as we all know nokia n9 doesnot play some 720p videos and all 1080p downloaded videos from cutetube.
this is required because im sure that we all n9 users want to benefit from clear black display led screen. :) please find a solution ... cheers....!!! |
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upgrade your gpu dude, :D
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If the display is 800x480 or whatever it is, how does 1080p even become necessary? It's just more pixels that need to be downscaled to the resolution of the phone.
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Why is the single core card played I don't understand...Isn't it plain to see since day 1 that the n9 has a poor GPU hence the video performance is poor?
After all my 680Mhz single core A11 chip N8 could play 1080p well too... |
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N8 could play anything you throw at it. I think it's definitely lack of codecs since the hardware is powerful enough to play them.
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the n8 has a broadcom GPU thats much much more powerful than the sgx 530 chip on the n9. So its a hardware limitation that might somewhat be able to be corrected with a change in kernel and oc'ing the GPU...
ofcourse codecs are responsible too but hardware is the main issue because no amount of safe oc'ing and kernel change can get 1080p rendered by the sgx chip... |
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I dont need 1080p , give me 'real' 720p please, its enough, no more 720p low profile only, :/
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never happening with the GPU that is on N9. This issue has already been said on 10+ threads in this forum, please use search before starting yet another thread.
You need to buy N8 if you want to play 720p or 1080p. |
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Give me a break with single core card.
I have a Raspberry Pi board with single core 700MHz and it runs XBMC and all videos play. It's a software related issue. I can open the video and play it in 3rd party apps, but it's very slow. So that means no hardware acceleration. There's your problem, probably frontend of the player is not connected or there are no drivers to the GPU. Write that and we are all happy :D |
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lol..
stop fighting ... now tell me how to delete this thread. Hhahah |
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So like i said earlier its not the processor but the GPU... |
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second, if i convert 1080p , it does play 1080p. What doea poor gpu do then?? |
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haha come on knobtviker.. the Raspberry Pi has one of the most powerful mobile GPUs there is. It's twice as powerful as the iPhone 4S's GPU.
Source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/...ance-20120125/ But what thedead1440 said is right. N8 uses Broadcom BCM2727 GPU which is capable of producing 32 Mtriangles/sec and has dedicated 3D Graphics HW accelerator. This GPU is still a very powerful one today and you can witness that by just transferring 720p or 1080p videos and playing normally without any lag. N9 on the other hand uses a PowerVR SGX530 GPU, which is capable of producing only 14 Mtriangles/sec. Also, a point to be noted is that the iPhone 3GS, which is around 3 years old, uses a SGX535 GPU, which is slightly better than the 530 version N9 uses. You can see the result, as the N9, even after PR1.3 update, stutters a bit even while playing the low bitrate 720p videos recorded by the device itself. This is sad, because everything about the N9 was looking good, but Nokia just had to ruin the game. Damn. BUT, it is also possible that there are less drivers and codecs available for Harmattan to actually play any video properly. Having said that, video performance can be improved to an acceptable extent, if there is further development on the software part. Just a side note: N900 has the same SGX530 GPU which N9 uses. But Nitdroid can run 720p videos smoothly and even on Maemo, with overclocking and other tweaks. |
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The Android "fad" has convinced a lot of people that dual/quad core cpus are needed in order to record 1080 videos, to play great 3d games, to serf the web correctly, etc etc
Well that isn't true. |
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I mean, I've read it couple of times here and there but now I believe it. N9 has a weaker GPU than S^3 line.. And I mean the 1st gen S^3 line (E7,N8,C7 etc) wow |
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No matter how much I hate to admit but Nokia have never released a complete flagship phone that could be considered the best among the competition in all aspects... Don't even get me started on the stupid categorization of Series by E, N & C...E7 vs N8 is a prime example of the really stupid competition that used to exist within Nokia... |
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* 2002, it was called 7650. (the P800 followed months later) * 2004, the 7710 (if you exclude its slow 150mhz cpu. it kicked P-Series in the balls) * 2005 the N91 (though released a whole year later) * 2006-7 .. the N95 * 2009 , the N900 * 2010, N8 |
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But my lg optimus black(has same gpu with n9) almost play anything smoothly (except 1080p of course), i think n9 need more codecs
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Just remember that the SGX530 is a 7-year old chip [from announcement]. OTOH the SGX540 used in the GNexus is less than 5-years old so the difference in video playback will be present... |
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Sgs2 uses mali400 afaik, sgx540 is on nexus, @_@
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However, the performances of the mali400 and sgx540 easily beat the sgx530 we have on the n9... |
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Oh well, thx to nokia that will never gonna give us maemo with latest gpu and latest SoC, :|
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N9 can not play 1080p videos as N900 doesn't have capacitive screen and will never have one , just simply because it doesn't works . |
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convert it to 720p LOWPROFILE dude, and you will be happy, or upgrade your gpu, do it at your own risk :p
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Please can you give me further info on upgrading my GPU? Any how-to's or youtube links would be great.
I am pretty handy with a soldering iron. Thanks |
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Afaik, SoC = processor+gpu are one package , cmiiw
so we unable to do that, if that can happen, i will upgrade my ram or gpu on n900 first, :) |
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So where can I get a guide on SOC replacement? I will do that instead.
I have solder. |
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You can't just take the motherboard apart, cram in a new SoC (even if you were able to get your hands on one and the pins fitted) and expect it to work. That's why these are called embedded systems.
Off-topic: Also, Broadcom produces arguably superior (but more tightly integrated?) GPUs than Imagination Technologies. Too bad they're coupling it with that joke of a CPU but hey, maybe they'll upgrade the design some time? :) |
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OK thanks.
How about fitting a complete mobo from another phone, say a Nexus? I have de-soldering braid too :) |
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Video decoding should mainly happen on the DSP.
I think the GPU is not the bottleneck here. Even if the DSP is capable (I'm not sure), we still need decoders which are unfortunately not available. |
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Its an awful lot of hassle. Just use the Nexus lol |
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Why is VAs dsp better ? A lot of improvements could have been done but you know what happened :( |
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