We need a name for the NFP entity that we're changing to: add your vote(s)!
 

To clarify, this is ONLY about naming the Not-For-Profit entity that's being created.
It may or may not relate to what the site branding and domain name eventually is.
The latter is not up for consideration until after the transition to self-governed infra is complete.
Although a discussion can certainly commence in the meantime, best to start new thread though.
A lot of pages in this thread go totally off-track contemplating domain/site_name etc.
Please try to avoid continuing discussions along those lines....

Now that we have a whole bunch of suggestions I've activated the poll, below I've listed all the names & their rationale.
Let me know if there's one you're sure should be listed, it's too late now, but it might be useful for the site_name/domain debate.
I excluded some because there was no decent explanation, or it was just too corny/inappropriate.
Also, perhaps we should list the Pros/Cons for each, or perhaps just some more detail/background?
Either way, if you feel an entry needs more info. to fully appreciate it's suitability, please provide it.

The poll is multiple-choice, but ideally try to vote for no more than 3x, unless you're really unsure.
After you've picked one(s) you like & voted, please also post in the thread stating what you voted for.
If for whatever reason you prefer to remain anonymous, that's perfectly fine too.
After you've voted & posted, please also read the latest draft of the foundation's by-laws here.
Please carefully analyse them & share any ideas/concerns/criticisms you have in that thread.
In many ways, lending your powers of concentration in that thread takes priority over this one!

Hildon
This is the name of the UX/desktop used by iterations of Maemo prior to Harmattan.
It appears this name is also used by a least one NFP entity, so like 2 of the Aeolos names, there's some question over whether it can be used.

Aeris
This is Latin meaning "Wind", all the Maemo iterations were named after winds.
N.B. although not yet confirmed, like Hildon, Aeolus, & Eolos there's a good chance that there's a NFP or Co. already using this name.
That doesn't automatically mean it's not usable, but it's something that should weigh into your considerations.

InternetTablet
Before the domain talk.maemo.org was used, internettablettalk.com was the domain used for the forum.

Aeolos, Aeolus, Eolos, or Eolo
The latter 3 of these names are Latin/Greek/Spanish words for "God of all winds", the former is a made-up word derived from Eolos, "a" is added to mimic Maemo.
The significance of these names is that all the iterations of Maemo were named after Winds.
It's not yet clear whether Aeolus & Eolos can be used, as Aeolus is already used by at least one foundation, & Eolos by at least one company.
To avoid any accusations of "cheating", I will only list Aeolos in the poll....
If it gets the most votes then we investigate whether the latter 3 really can't be used, if they can't then we' stick with Aeolos, if they can then we set another poll.

MOS
MOS = Maemo Operating Systems.

MeR-Community
MeR historically stands for Maemo "&" MeeGo Reconstructed/loaded/born, in that sense it's a unifying name, & still lots of historical linkages.
Maybe even MeR is free? Not sure if MeR org's foundation is called MeR? Must check with MeR advisory if it's okay to use.

Marineris
This is Latin for Mariner, it relates to the whole theme used by: MeR(French for Sea)/Nemo(Captain)/Jolla(dinghy or small sail boat).

TMO
Like InternetTabletTalk before it, a fundamental part (but by no means the sum-total) of the community has been the forum: talk.maemo.org.

FYDE or Free Your Device
Free Your DEvice, self-explanatory really...

Libre Mobile
Basis for this name is pretty obvious too...

Open Device/s
Again... pretty self-explanatory...

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 

As I suggested in the other thread, i think Aeolos Foundation is an appropriate name.

Aeolos is the god of winds in ancient Greek mythology. This is appropriate because it encompasses all the maemo iterations which were named after various winds. This way nobody will be left behind, and we get a nice sounding name.

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Other than I don't know how to spell it. The meaning is great and suitable for this purpose, so another vote from me.

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I'm very much in favor of "Hildon Foundation". It goes back to the roots of this community, it's a name that has a story to tell.

Any names made up now will sound like "Tizen" to me: yet another name only to hide where we're coming from. It wasn't all that bad, was it?

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We need to use something that's representative of all iterations, something that's inclusive & not divisive, that much is certain.
So far Aeolos best encapsulates that, and it ties in nicely with the naming convention used for every Maemo iteration.

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Another vote from me. The name even includes and reminds the 'ae' sound from Maemo. :p

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What is a "NFP entity"?!?!? Just so that I would know what it is that requires a name.

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Not-for-profit

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I'm not a big fan of Hildon foundation because the name Hildon already designate something, that is not inclusive of this community.
The issue with Aeolos is that it's another new abstract name, and there are already too many. (on the other hand, for a fresh start, it's probably for the best).
For the sake of the NFP name, both are ok in my view, but for a website or something, a more descriptive name would be better perhaps.

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That's a good point, I was never a huge fan of the weird Finnish/Greek mythology names, maybe we should break away totally from that naming convention?
At the risk of sounding dreadfully corny, how about Phoenix OS?* I'll give up right there, I'm useless at this kind of stuff! :D

*probably already used heaps in the sw world, I already vaguely recall a few things OTTOMH.

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Yes, Aeolos is a new abstract name but it retains the link we have to Finnish/Greek mythology which is important considering our backgrounds as well as avoiding any wars between the old and new here...

The best would of course be the transfer of all Maemo related trademarks to the NFP for the websites etc to be tagged with Maemo while the NFP can be referred to as Aeolos etc...

OTOH if really Nokia screw up (quite likely) and don't part with Maemo then again another name would be required...I would propose maybe Aeolos Foundation with another name for the websites/forums etc...

So we have to agree on two names in that case :D

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just throwing in with the attempt to stay close to the original...
naemo
meemo
maego
... but probably just causing more confusion...

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maemee



duh..

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I vote for a name that doesn't start with three different vowels. Mostly concerned about the well being of my tongue muscles.

And what is our link with finnish mythology? The myth that Nokia would take Linux seriously?

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well, naemo sounds quite tuneful to me.
the other two not so much, agreed.

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+1 for Aeolos

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as a close one for maemo => forum.rnaemo*
and +1 for Aeolos :)

./sifo

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Maemians.org

:/

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Bad. Bad. Bad. news here. Is this change going to apply to the domain name? I can't stand typing anything but "maemo.org" to access this site. I don't know if anybody else have this same obsession as me.

[EDIT]
The document is not clear on whether what will the domain name be in the future, but mentions maemo.org as the volunteer community that is now improving, etc etc.

Now I saw this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=22

But still need to know if the domain name will change?
[/EDIT]


-1 for Aeolos. IPA pronunciation should always follow this word.

Re: We need a name for the NFP entity that Maemo.org's changing to: add your suggestions!
 

Just re-posting what I posted in the Jolla thread, this is where such a discussion should continue anyway:

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TMO

Talk.MOS.Org

MOS = Maemo operating systems

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I'm throwing in the following suggestion: "calima foundation"

Hildon for me sounds much alike hilton. It has an elitist and above the rest touch.

Sounds nice to me, too.

Just my 2 cents.

brkn

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This is my new favorite as I want TMO to remain ;)...But just read thro' the By-Laws thread and it seems like maemo.org will indeed be transferred to the new NFP in that case a name for the NFP would suffice...

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Nice ! Not only because all the broken links (bot digital and abstract) that would result otherwise. :)

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gnulinuxinternettablettalk.org :p

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Aeolos is reasonable - it ties into the "wind name" theme that ran through the internet tablets and phones.

However, I don't get the contention that Hildon is elitist in some way. (On a side note, what's wrong with "elite"? But I digress.)

Hildon actually refers to something that underlay the tablets and, at least, the N900 (not so sure how much survived in the N9.) It also lay beneath the S90 of the 7710 and may even have formed the basis of the 9500 Communicator UI.

There's history there, functionality there, demonstrated flexibility there. Real software created by real, and very creative, people. And any of us who had one (or more likely more - I've owned 5) of the devices supported by it got real value from it.

So, while I recognize Aeolos is applicable, it is abstract as has been pointed out. Hildon was and is real and much more a part of this suite of devices than the mythology.

Just my thoughts.

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Why not use the Wikipedia-suggested spelling Aeolus?

Continuing with this pattern, I propose the Spanish spelling, Eolo, which is shorter. Besides, Maemo was pronounced as if it was a Spanish word ;)

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I understand where you are coming from but then those with the N9 will push for Harmattan to get a mention...IMO at this time when we need everyone united using Hildon/Harmattan or whatever that may cause divisiveness within the community is not advisable...My 2cents...Also especially after the council awards etc it has been laid bare quite obviously the friction that appears when the "old" and the "new" collide...

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In fact I wrote Aeolos before reading the wikipedia article. In Greek it's spelled Αίολος which would become Eolos by the standard Greek-Latin alphabet tranliteration.

I just thought Aeolos looks better and has the ae from maemo. Aeolus is the latin 'version' of the name (Latin names usually ended in -us, while Greek names end in -os)

By the way I secured the aeolosfoundation.org domain name just to be sure.

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^Is aeolos.org still free? *EDIT* Damn it, even aeolos.org is taken! :mad:
Eolos reads a bit more simply to me, I find Aeolos to be a bit odd, but they're both weird/abstract anyway I guess.
I can't recall, were all the Maemo iterations named after winds in Finnish, or some in Greek/Latin?
I do so love the fact that Eolos or Aeolus was the God of all winds, it ties in nicely with the fact that we want everything united/consolidated.
I'm still a bit skeptical of abstract/mythical names though, I've developed a nervous twitch when I hear them :)
eolos.org seems to be taken (seems like a personal site, not a co. one), aeolus.org seems to be taken too :(
Maybe we can convince the owners of all 3 to offer them for an amount that's reasonable for a NFP organisation?

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internettablettalk.com? :)

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Way too narrow in scope, only reflects origins/starting_point of maemo.org, & is too device centric.
Plus we haven't yet decided whether this community portal should also aspire to host all iterations of MeR, & even NIT.
So it becomes even broader than all the iterations of Maemo, IF we agree that's the best approach.

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I don't think Hildon is really apropriate. If something the name can be related to Mer, since Mer is the only viable descendant of the Maemo / Meego effort. Something marine related would be good.

For example Marineris Foundation?

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Harmo Foundation

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There are two important turkish winds, one is called poyraz (a fresh north-east wind which is essential for the weather in summer at the black sea) and the 'opposite' one is called lodos (a south wind). But unfortunately, poyraz.org is not available anymore and i dont like the second one.

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Although MeR is the future, we still have to be mindful that there's still a lot of Maemo related history/legacy.
Still, the idea that it's related to MeR in some way is a good idea IMO, if we're prepared to forget historical connections.

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we can rock ITT again

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Historic connections are hidden in the name :) Mer = Meego(Maemo) Relaunched. So by using the Mer association we wouldn't really disrespect the history.

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So by association of association we'd still have historical connections? I guess, maybe JUST :)

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Sadly this along with the 3x other variations seems to have been taken. I haven't tried them all with foundation tacked on the end.
One thing to keep in mind is, whatever we decide on, it doesn't necessarily matter if there's no domain that exactly or even closely matches it.*
Although if there is one that would be great, of course...

*dedicated site JUST for the foundation isn't really that imperative