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ujwalsoni 2012-09-05 11:27

Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Hi..I know that Harmattan is no longer being developed..but I wanted to share some ideas that I think would improve the overall experience

Here goes:

1. Enable pull-up for quick launch even from the 3 homescreens
2. Option for setting default opening homescreen when waking from sleep
3. Translucent keyboard, or option to set level of opaqueness (specially when browsing)
4. Slide up to pick up call (green) and down to reject call (red). Swipe to get more options
5. Active calls should appear as notifications so that one can swipe straight to the call if waking from sleep during a call
6. Dialler should allow cursor to be placed anywhere in the number (like the n900). Useful for adding zero before the number
7. Swipe manager should be without the annoying delay. Should be like the camera shortcut on the iPhone home screen. Possible solution would be to keep other screens ready in the background
8. Universal search should be integrated with social/notifications homescreen
9. Music app should start when earphones are plugged in
10. Wallpaper should show music progress bar along with music controls
11. Long press volume keys for skipping songs
12. Press contacts to call them, long press to open contact (both for contacts and call app)
13. Along with double tap, Direct swipe to homescreen from sleep screen should be an option, but only when proximity sensor detects that n9 is out of pocket.
14. Open in new window - option for opening new web link in background instead of a pop up
15. Allow wifi hotspot in power save mode
16. Nokia handshake logo on startup!!

thedead1440 2012-09-05 11:37

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
So you expect someone to implement this or are you going to implement them?

Why not participate in nemo development and help iron out such things so that they don't appear in nemo...

Also a number of things you have stated have workarounds/hacks/mods for them...

Its pretty easy to start a thread and post whatever one thinks is wrong with harmattan but if you are not going to improve it and know Nokia is not interested, I don't get why a thread should be started in the first place...A bit pointless isn't it?

flopjoke 2012-09-05 11:52

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
@ujwalsoni I'll donate a large amount of money to you if you can implement all those things in the N9.

thedead1440 2012-09-05 11:53

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flopjoke (Post 1261491)
@ujwalsoni I'll donate a large amount of money to you if you can implement all those things in the N9.


So can we start a poll here and do the necessary donations to ujwalsoni? Maybe he can guide us on the figure he expects then we can pool our resources together for him to satisfy all those above excluding those that already exist via tweaks/hacks/mods/workarounds...

Would $1,000 do sir?


Edit: Oh wait he wants the community to do it for him...

ujwalsoni 2012-09-05 14:48

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1261493)
So can we start a poll here and do the necessary donations to ujwalsoni? Maybe he can guide us on the figure he expects then we can pool our resources together for him to satisfy all those above excluding those that already exist via tweaks/hacks/mods/workarounds...

Would $1,000 do sir?


Edit: Oh wait he wants the community to do it for him...

Haha.. I don't expect anyone to do them..and I'm an accountant, not a developer, so I can't do them either.
This is a forum and everyone is entitled to add to the pool of ideas..jeeeez..since when did this community become so aggressive!!?

Arie 2012-09-05 14:53

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1261493)
So can we start a poll here and do the necessary donations to ujwalsoni? Maybe he can guide us on the figure he expects then we can pool our resources together for him to satisfy all those above excluding those that already exist via tweaks/hacks/mods/workarounds...

Would $1,000 do sir?


Edit: Oh wait he wants the community to do it for him...

I'll add in another $2000 if he does it.

ujwalsoni 2012-09-05 15:00

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1261600)
I'll add in another $2000 if he does it.

LOL..can someone refer me to a software programming course for under $3000 please?

dumpystig 2012-09-05 15:27

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Yet another comparison / I wish it was like an iPhone.

To those that want iPhone features FFS GO AND BUY A FKIN iPhone and stop whining about the N9 not having Apple features.

thedead1440 2012-09-05 15:35

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
dumpystig, shhh, don't say it; its considered "aggressive"...

AMD 2012-09-05 15:38

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1261616)
Yet another comparison / I wish it was like an iPhone.

To those that want iPhone features FFS GO AND BUY A FKIN iPhone and stop whining about the N9 not having Apple features.

Lol it's like saying I want a BMW to look like a Mercedes.. Hehe

AMD 2012-09-05 15:40

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Ok, first of all, all of the listed are impossible, though, they are creative & good ideas..

thedead1440 2012-09-05 15:44

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
AMD common did you read the whole first post thoroughly? A number of the things have been done already...This community is excellent don't forget that...

AND before you ask me which ones;

Take that first post and GO COMPARE with the PDF/wiki of Schturman's N9QTweak for a start...

wolke 2012-09-05 15:51

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1261483)
11. Long press volume keys for skipping songs

sounds like a job for my button-monitor.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82538

from the lockscreen, i have it so vol(+) plays/pauses, vol(-) skips songs, vol(-) doubleclick plays the previous song, and long-click turns on the flashlight.

thedead1440 2012-09-05 15:56

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
One last post here before I'm called on being too aggressive...

The reason I was not polite from the off was because the OP has a history of starting similar threads and even though he has solutions/WONTFIX to some of his issues he still chose to lump it up in one post...


For example: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83594
Solution on the 3rd post but lumped in here...

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84397
Nokia to have skinned Android with MeeGo...wtf!
Read the responses on there to see the flamebait the OP is...

Oh and all the tweaks found in N9QTweak or wolke's volume buttons mapper...

Edit: wolke did the honours :D

AMD 2012-09-05 16:08

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1261623)
AMD common did you read the whole first post thoroughly? A number of the things have been done already...This community is excellent don't forget that...

AND before you ask me which ones;

Take that first post and GO COMPARE with the PDF/wiki of Schturman's N9QTweak for a start...

Ok, so some are possible, but I mean that he wrote some creative ideas :)

ujwalsoni 2012-09-05 16:34

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Guys..sincere apologies for sharing ideas..today I learnt that anyone who's not a developer should just stfu and not visit forums and stuff..cool

AMD 2012-09-05 16:57

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1261651)
Guys..sincere apologies for sharing ideas..today I learnt that anyone who's not a developer should just stfu and not visit forums and stuff..cool

lol, I can't stop laughing at this :P

HELLASISGREECE 2012-09-05 16:58

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1261651)
Guys..sincere apologies for sharing ideas..today I learnt that anyone who's not a developer should just stfu and not visit forums and stuff..cool

Indeed.
There's a lot of elitism going on around here.
Sadly : (

dumpystig 2012-09-05 18:40

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
I wouldn't consider the replies in this thread to be elitist, far from it. Unless owning a Maemo / Meego device classes you as being among the elite :D

But I'm sick to death of references to icrap and people wanting the N9 to be something it plainly isn't.

I love mine despite what I personally consider to be its shortcomings. If I decide I want something else I will go and buy it, simple as that.

So if someone likes iPhone stuff then go and buy an iPhone, join one of the plentiful device forums and ask questions there. Like "can I make my screen like the Nokia N9?". Easy.

wolke 2012-09-05 18:42

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1261702)
So if someone likes iPhone stuff then go and buy an iPhone, join one of the plentiful device forums and ask questions there. Like "can I make my screen like the Nokia N9?". Easy.

hehehehe, im with you dumpystig. but just so you know, thats TOTALLY ELITIST

pelago 2012-09-06 10:10

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Such negativity. Since when were people not able to suggest improvements? Personally I think ujwalsoni's list was interesting.

dumpystig 2012-09-06 10:51

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Surely negativity is wishing aspects of your N9 to be like some other phone?

If you bought a N9 be happy with it. If not sell it and get a model that better suits your needs.

ujwalsoni 2012-09-06 14:59

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1262118)
Surely negativity is wishing aspects of your N9 to be like some other phone?

If you bought a N9 be happy with it. If not sell it and get a model that better suits your needs.

I *am* happy with it and it *does* suit my needs. But that doesn't preclude me from sharing some ideas with the community when they occur to me, regardless of whether any of these ideas are useful or not. This is a forum and people come here to talk. Get over it.

flopjoke 2012-09-06 16:51

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
@ujwalsoni you're right.

although I'll tell you why some people react like that over here.. Many devs are putting a LOT of work for little or nothing in return, so it kinda upsets some to see people being unappreciative towards their work and just keep asking for more and more and complain when they can't get things to work because they're too lazy to actually search for the solution which already exists .
.
I think your idea came out wrong to them, when you just meant to share something.

don't take it too seriously.

Scorp1us 2012-09-06 18:35

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Oh, here's what I need:

1. Fix the switch-app/swipe from q or p on the keyboard problem. Tryign to enter 'quit' or 'problem' usually results in me jsut flinging the screen back and forth.

2. Dialer
a. When on a call fix it so that the number pad is visible along with mute, speaker and disconnect buttons. There's plenty of real estate to put a number pad on that screen.
b. Dialer won;'t match contacts that include country code (+1) since my phone company just sends 10 digits domestically.
c. When tryign to dial voicemail, I have to hit it twice. I get an intermediary screen that shows me my voicemail number, as if I care.
d. Answering a call is swipe up + button press. Why do I need the button press? I just swiped!

3. Email
Cannot copy text from emails

4. Browser
a. Cannot search on page for text
b. Cannot tell it to not remember history

I wouldn't mind coding some of these if I knew they'd make it in the update. How open is the code base though?

dumpystig 2012-09-11 22:37

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1262218)
I *am* happy with it and it *does* suit my needs. But that doesn't preclude me from sharing some ideas with the community when they occur to me, regardless of whether any of these ideas are useful or not. This is a forum and people come here to talk. Get over it.

OK.
I'm over it now.
Thanks.
:D

andreas1 2013-07-17 11:23

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1261483)
Hi..I know that Harmattan is no longer being developed..but I wanted to share some ideas that I think would improve the overall experience
...

14. Open in new window - option for opening new web link in background instead of a pop up

Good ideas, especially the number 14 would rock!

andreas1 2013-07-25 10:52

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
If we forget "build a new one from scratch with desired features or use another browser that already has it",
Can anyone think of a solution ? Is this doable to the system or to app itself?

Is it for example possible to monitor what application is open on top on viewing, so to speak?
like if stock browser is currently the one, active, and you push "open to new window" something monitors the action and keeps the current browser window on top and puts the new window to open applications, kind of background?

Boxeri 2013-07-25 11:25

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni View Post

Hi..I know that Harmattan is no longer being developed..but I wanted to share some ideas that I think would improve the overall experience
...

14. Open in new window - option for opening new web link in background instead of a pop up

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas1 (Post 1359568)
Good ideas, especially the number 14 would rock!


This would be something I would also find usefull

DJJonosound 2013-07-25 12:09

Re: Nokia N9 - User Interface Ideas/Rant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1261483)
9. Music app should start when earphones are plugged in

Hell no.
What if I just want to watch youtube?


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