Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

I have a N900 and I wish to switch to another smartphone in 2-3 months.
I liked very much the n900, but now it is too old/slow and makes me go on nerves because I like very reactive/fast devices.
I read about the Lumia 920 and I want to ask something to someone who knows the Lumia world and windows mobile.
1) is It possible to gain root access or it is like android where to have root privileges is rather difficult for a newbie?
2) is it possible to reinstall the full operating system?
3) I saw that there is no native divx support. This could be a problem for me that I like to watch divx/xvid and other avi videos. I read that with zune this problem can be solved, but I don't know if it is true. Anyone knows something more about that?
Thanks

Re: Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

1: no
2: yes & no. You can restore back to stock ala iphone but not to install/choose os as you would with the n900
3: Zune will convert the files to a compatible format.

Re: Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

well just read this list and see if your with it.

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Lumia 920 uses WP8, though. I think that's WP7, if I'm not mistaken.

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It will also downscale any HD video whether you like it or not. No options.

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Sorry did you mean the list that i posted or ...?

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Yea, I meant your list. Although most of those still probably applies. XD

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Yes, that is what he means.

Lumia 920 is supposed to be a different beast from 900. I dont think its finished yet, as a lot of the functionality was not shown to the masses on September 5th. It will not replace N900 in any ways or means. It will give you a Windows version of an iphone. Smooth UI, very smooth indeed, with great Nokia maps, great text input, and NOKIA hardware.

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from what Ms has shown about WP8 way more than half of the things on that list still apply. But WP is still young and with help of Nokia it should get most of those things covered in the future.

I'm with Lumiaman on this ones, 920 and N900 are two very different phones for two different markets. If you enjoyed N900 for the mods/tweaks/coding, community and openness 920 and Windows Phone is not for you in that manner.

But if you want a phone that just works, does not lag and will have future support WP is a good choice.

You win some, you loose some.

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Do you know if in the next months are supposed to be "beasts" more similar to n900 in the market ?

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Different beast from Lumia 900, not N900. Lumia 900 is a great phone if you want it for regular use. Lumia 920 is supposed to be much more than Lumia 900

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Nope. The fundamental design behind the N900 (and the earlier "Internet Tablet" series from Nokia) was to, more or less, deliver the functionality of a desktop computer in your pocket -- but it was Steve Jobs' vision of a pocketable multimedia device that really caught fire in the marketplace. Therefore, every manufacturer now follows Jobs -- you can choose Apple's iPhone, Google's iPhone, or Microsoft's iPhone. All of them toys that allow you to play games and watch videos very well. None of them tools that allow you to leave your laptop behind. (I don't think any of them are even as good as the old PDAs.) Who knows when (or if) something like the N900 will ever appear again...

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There are a lot of good phones out there, and the right answer for you depends on your use-case. The N9 is pretty fast, easily rootable, has a great community, and is getting more affordable as time goes by.

Also, Android seems to have a nice community (including XDA Developers site), rootable phones, custom ROMs, and a large software marketplace.

Jolla should be releasing its new phone later this year, too.

There seems to be some mystery about Windows 8 software, so since you have some time left to decide, I'd recommend waiting to see how things turn out. The iPhone release should cause prices to go down, so that's another reason to wait.

Re: Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

And you what would you do? Take Lumia 920 or wait for Jolla Mobile?

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Lumiaman I guess from your nick that you are fond of Lumia. Do you know is there is around any community like this one for Lumia devices or not?

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I think it is obvious that he doesn't ;)

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The community is right here. We know everything about everything :)

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Here you go bud...

http://www.wpcentral.com/

WPCentral is actually one of the more level headed WP sites around with lots of news about the lumia devices and have an dev area too.

I will warn you though, the mobile nations forums are rather user centric full of chat and no one ever uses the search function. Also avoid imore, it is a complete rumour mill.

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Wow.... WPhanboys make the Apple fanboys look good.
Simply stunning how the internet continues to amaze me.

The iPhone fans are like:
/meh Apple makes the best products and it just works *like magic*

The WPhans are like:
Our next iteration will bring colors into Settings and it will be better than all other phones out there. Obama should use it.

Android fans are like:
I got hexxacore, 12GB RAM, 5,000mAh battery and 15MP camera... it is the best. Oh man, there's a new model with 13GB RAM, **** this sucks.

Maemo/Harmattan/MeeGo/Jolla/openSUSE-ARM fans are like:
It runs.

BlackBerry fans are like:
I need to make an appointment for my hip surgery.

Re: Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

How difficult is it to scroll big 2D 2 colour tiles smoothly? Unfortunately that's the only thing WP is good at.

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dont married to any brand , wp not only lumias, jm2c

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It's quite true, it take more computing power to render a round button than just simple square.

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After using my Lumia 900 since early April, and now having it in at Nokia Care, I'm back on the N900 for the time being.

In between I had been using HTC Vision, with plenty of Android goodness. But alas, until Android 4.0 which I barely ran due to compatibility and stability issues, it all kinda looked and felt half-baked.

My N900 still feels good in the hand, using it as I type this -- oh the joy to have qwerty again, damn do I still hate touch keyboards! There's the half-baked feel with this one also, but the N900 gets a pass, because of its inherent capabilities. I don't mind the screen tearing with Opera, or a random boot because of starving profile with OC at 900MHz. With true Linux box in your pocket, much is forgiven.

So do I want the Lumia back amidst all this CSSU-sudo-apt-get upgrade bliss? You bet. While the N900 is still my mobile device king, for me it takes away the focus from reading/texting/talking, because in the end, I'm not a sys.admin who needs server access in my fingertips, or a devel writing apps for the community (thank you again for the awesomeness of this community btw); no, my mobile use is far more simpler. I actually like dumbphones now more than ever. I get to play with Mac OS on my hackintosh, run and play with various Linux distros under VM, while tinkering with Arch Linux on an early-2000 IBM ThinkPad. My phone can, no, needs to be simple, a dumbphone. And the Lumia 900, and no doubt the 920 with WP8 would as well, fits the bill: a sleek, well-made, "it just works" (well, excluding my Lumia's USB data connection... Wait, a Nokia something-900 with a USB issue, this rings a bell...), robust dumbphone by Nokia.

Perfect.

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Lumia series? meh

better samsung WP8 line. or HTC..or ZTE..or any OEM for WP8 out there

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Jeez, that's some long list of negatives - much more (worse) than I realised.
Thanks

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Don't you remember this thread where everybody had some fun?

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[QUOTE=thedead1440;1264708]Don't you remember this thread where everybody had some fun?[/QUOTE

3/4 of it were untrue and inflated.

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My girlfriend has a Lumia and well... it seems to me most things from the list (still) apply.

But I have to agree with frostbyte, you don't buy a Lumia if you want a phone you can tinker with. It's just a dumbphone that works. And it does that well IMO. I also like the much criticised square-interface. It's practical and does what it needs to, while staying nice on the eyes (if you get the meaning, not that it's pretty, it doesn't stress the eyes)...

Biggest minuses for me are: 1) no mass storage mode; 2) no bluetooth data connection; 3) no other browser other than the built-in IE...

It's nothing like a N900. But as mainstream smartphones go, I'd prefer it over an Android or an iPhone at the moment.

Re: Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

I'm interested in WP8 because of windows 8. I Will get a windows 8 laptop and matching phone and see what happens :)

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L920 hardware looks real nice, just a *BIG* shame it's not running MeeGo :(

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just went thru the 1st 15 to 20 lines....

820 has 8GB internal memory but has a µSD slot...

920 has 1280x800...

920 has 32GB (pitty 920 has 32GB internal and 820 has µSD, but, hell...)

every router has an "ad-hoc" network settings where it acts as an hot-spot, thus, non-sense...

i'm certainly not a m@ke$$h!t fan-boy, but that list is... rubbish. i'm not saying that everything on it is incorrect, but there are some obvious exaggerations which put the whole list's credibility in question...
or the list is seriously outdated...

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That list describes windows 7.5, not 8 which 920 runs, so that causes those differences I guess.

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the ad-hoc network is non-sense and is anything but a testimony to the technical competency of the author, thus...

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Heh, thanks for the reminder :D

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if you like freedom, don't buy a lumia

Re: Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

I like freedom.
What shall I buy? iphone? galaxy?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TuxPhone

This is freedom. Does not have Angry Birds though, so the freedom has a bitter taste ;)

Re: Lumia 920 (a question to whom possesses a Lumia)
 

Oh i do know that with the WP8 quite a few things will be crossed out that list, but more than half will still remain there

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The list was not based on Lumia 800 and WP7.5 before 920 came out.

It is true that WP7.5 cannot set static IP address which is required for many corporate networks.

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Yes, but: 'The project has not been updated since 2009-01-20'...

not to mention that the 'prototype' is one ugly looking piece of kit (yeah, I said 'kit' :D)

and I doubt it could even run Angry Birds