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chenliangchen 2012-10-06 15:53

[N950 Club] Improve the battery capacity
 
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As someone might know, the N950's battery can be upgraded to BV-4D 1400mAh. Let me just quickly introduce it.

From the specification sheet, the N950 uses BV-4D 1320 mAh battery. This is also the same as the early prototype of N9-00. (Click to see the picture.)

However, as the orginal N9-00 Deli was canceled as a consumer device, it became N950 as what we see now. Nokia downgraded the battery when ship the device to BP-4L battery, at 1200 mAh.
This can be confirmed in this page.

There exist some early BV-4D 1320mAh battery on ebay, listing as battery for N9-00. (Although don't know if it is true or not.) This raise some confusion between N9-00 (N950) and N9-01 (N9). N9 uses BV-5JW 1450mAh but N950, indeed, uses BV-4D orginally.
Even Steve Litchfield in AAS was confused about this - see the comment of this link!

Finally, the improved BV-4D 1400mAh is used in 808 Pureview. And I did find a trusted source for the genuine BV-4D battery, without buying a 808.

I'm excited and currently waiting for the delivery. Ideally, the battery in current N950 will be improved from 1200mAh to 1400mAh, which is a big improvement.

I will give the result once I tested the new battery.:D

MAX9 2012-10-09 16:31

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In my N950 was a 1200mAh BL-4D battery installed, i changed to a 1320mAh BV-4D battery.
I test it.:D
I have no idea where I get a battery with 1400mAh...:confused:

aStrike 2012-10-09 17:22

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After searching a bit in ebay I found a GOLD 2680MAH BL-4D! which I am sure it is not original from nokia (will make your n950 explode :D)

@MAX9:
Is there a big difference in battery life between the 1320mAh BV-4D and the original 1200mAh battery?

Off-topic: the n950 doesn't come with a wall charger, is it safe to charge it with the n900 wall charger?
Charging via usb will take much longer compared to using a wall charger.

marxian 2012-10-09 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aStrike (Post 1278479)
Off-topic: the n950 doesn't come with a wall charger, is it safe to charge it with the n900 wall charger?
Charging via usb will take much longer compared to using a wall charger.

You can use the N900 wall charger. I have done so many times without any problem. :) I have also used other USB wall chargers. I believe that any device that implements the USB charging standard will only draw the current that it needs to charge, so you should generally be able to use any USB wall charger.

MAX9 2012-10-09 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aStrike (Post 1278479)
After searching a bit in ebay I found a GOLD 2680MAH BL-4D! which I am sure it is not original from nokia (will make your n950 explode :D)

I am waiting for a 1400mAh BV-4D...
A explode N950 is very uncool :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by aStrike (Post 1278479)
Is there a big difference in battery life between the 1320mAh BV-4D and the original 1200mAh battery?

Installed the battery only 2 hour ago...

Quote:

Originally Posted by aStrike (Post 1278479)
Off-topic: the n950 doesn't come with a wall charger, is it safe to charge it with the n900 wall charger?
Charging via usb will take much longer compared to using a wall charger.

I used a AC-16E Charger from the N9 with the CA-179 USB cable from N950

chenliangchen 2012-10-10 21:49

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I only found trust-able BV-4D 1400mAh battery from Taobao (the Chinese eBay).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=..._u=6v7snk35cfe

Using Google translate if you don't undertand Chinese.

I know there are a lot things are fake in China (maybe inc. the explosive super battery above :p), but according to the picture, comment and discription, the battery is genuine.
The Chinese on the back saying that this battery is only for China, Hong Kong and Taiwan market for 808 pureview, hence I'm not expect it appear on ebay UK or US...

There is a problem posting batteries, as DHL and UPS are very strict with battery. I'm trying with ems.

Once the posting method is confirmed I will purchase and share the details.

marinediscoking 2012-10-13 05:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MAX9 (Post 1278453)
In my N950 was a 1200mAh BL-4D battery installed, i changed to a 1320mAh BV-4D battery.
I test it.:D
I have no idea where I get a battery with 1400mAh...:confused:

Do you think it could do any damage using a 3.7V battery in a phone that takes 3.8V battery?

MAX9 2012-10-13 08:02

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no.
I measure the batteries:
N950:
  • BL-4D 1200mAh 3.7V = 4.01V
  • BV-4D 1320mAh 3.8V = 3.85V
  • BV-4D 1400mAh 3.8V = coming soon, in delivery
N900:
  • BL-5J 1320mAh 3.7V = 3.87V
N9:
  • BV-5JW 1450mAh 3.8V = 3.83V

F2thaK 2012-10-13 09:17

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SCUD made a bigger (but same physical size) battery for the N900.

It could be found on Alibaba.com

MAX9 2012-10-16 15:20

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The ordered 1400mAh battery... :mad:

chenliangchen 2012-10-16 17:38

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I believe the one I found is the most reliable at the moment...

MAX9 2012-10-17 13:55

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good luck :)

Estel 2012-10-17 15:51

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I'm afraid, that change from *nominal* 1200 mAh to *nominal* 1400 mAh may be not visible at all, from user's POV, except placebo effect.

The only way for *real* boost of uptime, would be to do similar thing as dual-scud for N900. Interestingly, N950 would be still quite flat, despite double batt.

The problem here, is that there is no source of pre-produced "fat" backcovers for N950 - not even one as ridiculously over-priced and under feature-complete, as Mugen cover.

I'm planning to prep.are "something" for N950, when I'll finish body replacement project for N900 (see link in my signature). Who knows, maybe it will be even more than a simple backcover (it would be great to do something with terrible low wifi/cellular signal performance, at least when compared to N900's one).

But it all have to wait until N900's gooddies come to life :)

/Estel

marinediscoking 2012-10-24 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MAX9 (Post 1281306)
The ordered 1400mAh battery... :mad:

Do you think your battery might be one of these?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Batte...576560918.html

chenliangchen 2013-03-01 19:12

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Bought 2 new 1400mAh BV4D, one for myself, the other is a gift for a friend here. (You know who you are):p

chenliangchen 2013-03-01 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1281792)
I'm afraid, that change from *nominal* 1200 mAh to *nominal* 1400 mAh may be not visible at all, from user's POV, except placebo effect.

The only way for *real* boost of uptime, would be to do similar thing as dual-scud for N900. Interestingly, N950 would be still quite flat, despite double batt.

The problem here, is that there is no source of pre-produced "fat" backcovers for N950 - not even one as ridiculously over-priced and under feature-complete, as Mugen cover.

I'm planning to prep.are "something" for N950, when I'll finish body replacement project for N900 (see link in my signature). Who knows, maybe it will be even more than a simple backcover (it would be great to do something with terrible low wifi/cellular signal performance, at least when compared to N900's one).

But it all have to wait until N900's gooddies come to life :)

/Estel

I'm afraid there is a difference. I have changed to 1400mAh and it does last longer.

The orginal N950 was designed for 1320mAh, so 1200 is definitely under powered. :) There might not be significant difference between 1320 and 1400 though.

LouisDK 2013-06-01 03:57

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Some things I've done to improve battery life on my N950:

Enable power saving.

Disable Dev Mode.Yes I've found this to make a big improvement. Also on N950 things like ssh is still active with dev mode disabled, once installed.

I've also disabled the standby screen under "Settings > Device > Screen > Sandby Screen". Don't know how much that power it saves, but I don't see a reason to have features enabled that isn't supported by the hardware.

Upgrade from 1200mAh til 1320mAh. Couldn't find 1400 mAh back then.

www.rzr.online.fr 2013-07-30 19:56

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I am still using my original battery since the day I got n950 ... and still use it everyday ... do you know how long is it expected to live ?

I consider buying an extra one ... any seller to suggest in france ?

MAX9 2013-08-27 17:45

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yes.....now i have a BV-4D 1400mAh for my N950.

I found it on ebay, BV-4D 1400mAh (More than 10 available - 38 sold)

Ships to: Worldwide

wook_sf 2013-08-27 20:58

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Battery from n900 will work too - I use one.
It just needs some modification...


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