Interesting article about Nokia's MeeGo work
 

The original is in finnish and includes information anonymously from people who worked on it in Nokia. Here's translation:

http://translate.google.com/translat...tarina&act=url

And here's the original:

http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/nokia-meegon-tarina

[Article] Story of Nokia's MeeGo
 

Finnish tech site Taskumuro published today a long article about what went wrong with Maemo/MeeGo inside Nokia. It is in general well written and has a lot of insider information from anonymous (ex-)Nokia developers who worked for OSSO/Maemo/MeeGo.

Most of the story is already known, at least if you have been following this scene earlier. However, I think that this is so far the best article to collect all the facts to one place. And also the chapter about technical difficulties with different chipset/modem configurations is new information, at least for me.

The original article (in Finnish) can be found here: http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/nokia-meegon-tarina

English translation will be published later but you can already see some parts of the article translated here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...pli=1&sle=true

EDIT: Seems like there already was a thread about this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...52#post1278852

Sorry for doubleposting it, should have checked this more carefully before posting.

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Great finding.

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Some Elop fanboys (Lumiaman?) seem to be sabotaging the crowdsourced English translation.

Well, translation will come out eventually...

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Even having read it through a translator, that article looks really well-researched and written. Worth a read.

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Wow... a phone N810? Glad we were spared that disaster at least!

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before the symbian-wp civil war there was the symbian-maemo civil war.

how does it feel now Symbian? you got ***ed by wp the same way you ***ed maemo

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Wow, pretty much all of the rumors "confirmed".
Superb reading if you have been following the harmattan space closely since 2009.


Though i'm not sure why "Lumiaman" would be sabotaging the translation. it doesn't actually paint all that good picture of Maemo team.
Delays after delays and projects scrapped time after time. Elop just steps in at the very end to shut it down after Nokia had hit hard times with OPK in the main seat.

It's also speculated on the article that N9 might not have ever came to the market if it wasn't the rush that the strategy change made inside.

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This doesn't make sence to me - Since Nokia has already produced so many N950s, why not just sell it? They don't want to make profit?
I feel samsung and htc sell a lot outdated cr@ps and people buy them!

Whether it outdated or not doesn't depend on their market team, let customer decide it!! The N900 is 3 years old but is NOT outdated. Shame! :(

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Yeah the Symbian civil war was clear to even us Maemo fans back in 2010, it must have been some serious power struggle inside.
Something that OPK clearly was not the man to end.


Those tablets sound amazing. Intel based tablet, Nokia ARM (U8500) tablet with vanilla MeeGo and lastly N9 designed MeeGo tabet. All 3 where in the prototype phase.

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Nokia first finger friendly os are nokia belle, harmattan and windows phone...
too bad

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for my fingers are not sausages I could add Fremantle to the list. :rolleyes:

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N9 went through 3 completely different UIs. :D

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Fremantle is stylus friendly IMHO:rolleyes:

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Daymn.. I can see why they formed Jolla. They were desperate =/

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These articles only provoke further sadness everytime they are published; Its like death by a thousand cuts...

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it all began even before the 770 tablet.

in 2004-2005 the 7700 never released and the 7710 being the first and last Symbian S90 device.

The best symbian release by FAR at the time (way better than symbian s80/s60/uiq)

s90 was the father of 770's OS (and maemo in general)

but nokia dumped this gorgeous ui in favor of plain old S60 (N-Series being around the corner at that time)

second blow was years later. 2009... Nokia gave N900 the finger in order to let the N97 (and its siblings) to sell.

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Dual A9 N9-tablet prototype... Elop'd.

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There were "bright minds" inside Nokia that chose to favor the N97 instead of N900

Jesus...

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Bora (aka OS2007).

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Well I red the google translation but did not understand much, probably because I haven't slept well lol. But the article didn't say anything new I mean we all knew about the power stuggel between symbian and maemo, and the delays in the meego project.

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It's no secret that everyone of these companies in this industry make plenty of prototypes and projects that go nowhere.

Put thinking in just what kind of situation Nokia was (huge profits 1998-2010, even shortly Europe's largest company) back in, they certainly seemed to make most out of it spending it to all kind of amazing projects that where always scrapped.

After those amazing projects and the 4 billion euros spent to R&D yearly they decided to throw devices like N97 out there. I was huge, blind Nokia fan boy back then, but even i saw how utterly crap the device was.
Symbian was a dead end, but even so N97 must have been amazingly destructive device.


There was news today that Nokia actually filled record amount of patents and owns over 50% of essential LTE patent.
I hope that at this time when Nokia can still do something we see a lot more focus from them. Seems to be the case so far at least.

You did notice there is plenty of pages? It doesn't stop to that first page.

You have heard some very shady rumors and pictures of some stuff there, but this explains and tells what was happening inside Nokia. Makes it one coherent story.
Example the 2009 leaked UI was actually true. Something i was always sure was right. This goes to explain what happened and how it worked. Also explains why the early UI infos we got where somethign totally different to Swipe UI.

Though there's are also some totally new stuff like N9 lookalike tablet in prototype and so on.

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The N810 phone thing was definitely news to me. I would have liked to know more about things like Elephanta and what happened to it, the mass exodus of GNOME people in early 2008, the RX-71 etc though.

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The most ridicilous Symbian fanboys got desperate and got in bed with Elop and now is WP fanboys instead.

Thats for sure...

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It would be a dream coming true getting my hands on a Nokia 7700 and N950.

the 7700 is even rarer than N950. Only a handfull of devices made for testing purposes.

They would be a great company to my untouched white 64gb N9 : )

*drooools*

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nah... I think the majority of Symbian fans moved to Android. Some to Harmattan and some to wp.

I could be wrong though...

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I'm not a big fan of Elop, but you can't deny the fact that he's brought some much needed Canadian cool-headedness to Nokia. As an outsider, he was probably able to cut through the internal politics and bureaucracy.

Windows Phone is a strategic decision and we may not agree with it, but apart from that, Elop has also focused on operational efficiency - by organizational restructuring, cost-cutting, quick decision-making and bringing focus to key business areas, for ex, his mission to make Nokia the 'where" platform, and striking up licensing deals with Amazon, Oracle etc.

After reading the article, you realize that Nokia had become a lumbering behemoth. The American upstarts sped ahead because they were agile and headed by people who were in the thick of things and understood the new market sentiments perfectly.

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the fact is when Elop arrived and changed the strategy, Nokia went down the drain. In every aspect.

Let's hope WP8 will change that (personally I don't see it)

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I had the 7710..great device and ahead of its time..pixel density was still better than the 808 :D

Sold it for USD 200..

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Nokia went down because Elop stupidly announced the death of Symbian..Even if he was shutting down Symbian, he could have done it gracefully and phased it out slowly without yelling it out..maybe he thought that the exodus from Symbian would move to WP, which didn't really happen..

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3.5 inches screen , 640x320 resolution.
yes , it was fantastic.

it even destroyed the SE P910. plus it had radio, mmc, emulators, a great loudspeaker etc.

only drawbacks were the abscence of wifi (ok, it was rare those days) but mostly the ultra weak cpu (150mhz).

the device was a snail at times. hanging and freezing frequently.

I had three of those! I love it!

After the 7710 it was N91 & N95-2 all the way for me.

But the 7710 OS (S90) had the best looking and smartest UI at that time.

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Somebody please post when the translated text is available,

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Damn, N9 qwerty, N9 tablet...it could've been awesome.

I hope this article gets a translation, its difficult to make sense of right now.

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Here you go...http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/nokia-meegon-tarina,10

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The translated version of the article can now be found from here:

http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/nokia-meegon-tarina,10

Thanks for the Finnish murobbs community to make the translation possible with this fast schedule :)

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A little bit off topic, I am a fans of symbian and swipe ui.
The most important reason I didn't choose hildon or Fremantle is portrait and one hand navigation... But I agree n900 is a great internet tablet or development device.

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Than you, this was a grat and sad read.

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Is there an article for Symbian?

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Great read. Any old nokians here? Quim around? What's your take on this article? Care add some notes?