Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

Ha ha ha ha ha

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89N11J20121024

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

Doubt it.

Not unless Android gets a lot more powerful, does some of the things Windows does, Multitasking, new interface, better Apps and new devices.

For instance the Padphone2 with a hwkbd, microSD, microHDMi, USB 3.0, 4GB RAM, Quadcore A15 cpu.... plus ew software.

Then yeah maybe.

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

Chrome OS and Android will mature and cross pollinate and will eventually create a single desktop -> mobile solution. This 11.6-inch ARM-based Samsung is another step in that direction. Google will get smart and widen the Chrome OS charter.

Four Google years is like ten Microsoft years.

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They should've stuck with the initial design;
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o9zUzzrI67...Cr-48_full.JPG

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I think I'll take Samsung and a dual-core Cortex A-15 over Inventec and a single core Atom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook#Models

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

The external design. Aesthetics.

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Ah, yes, I agree.

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The article does not suggest that Android will supplant the Windoze desktop machine, only that there will be more 'computing devices' running Andoid than Windoze. Many people purchase new smartphones/tablets far more often than new desktop machines, so it's quite feasible.

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because it was based on Intel X86 and was way faster than this new thing. But its cheaper now. slow misery comes at a smaller price.

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What are you talking about?

http://www.androidauthority.com/exyn...hmarks-125134/

This new device should smoke the original.

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

Now they just need to make better batteries.

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Android is dead 2017.

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

People dead 2012... so all this is moot :P

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article's point is standing on a ******ed premise that just because they are both operating systems that they can be compared, so the whole idea of android beating windows is ******ed since android(or chrome os) cant replace ANY usefull OS

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Things could get even more interesting as Linux and Android are merged...

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-sourc...g-system/10625

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For those who bought Maemo devices because they offer freedom, these aren't good news.

Sure, MS isn't "open" as in "open source". But at least they used to offer a relatively open platform (slowly changing now) that allowed people to have control over their data and hardware.

Google's Android, while offering open code in theory, is a much more dangerous threat to freedom than MS. They pretend to be open, but in fact encourage proprietary licensing and discourage GPLed code. They take all the data they can get, your mails, your contacts, your appointments, your documents, your searches, your location data and so on.

I wouldn't go "ha ha ha" if Google really gains more influence than it already has and overtakes MS in this business.

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again r.etards writing stuff they dont know s.hit about, its linux as linux the kernel merging with android version of linux kernel, not linux operating system(GNU/linux) merging with android, so not important at the least

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You're paranoid. Google is better than Microsoft. Period. Please let me know when Microsoft releases any of their kernel's source code. All of Google's middle-ware can be replaced if need be.

Fvck Microsoft and the propriatary piece of sh*t horse they rode in on.

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

I'd like to disagree.
While there's nothing to stop the OEMs from modifying the kernel.

Firstly, the Nexus devices will be using stock kernel that means native Ubuntu, even if theoretical (also means Mer!).

But the majority of the devices will have OEM-kernels which are based on and close representatives of stock kernel. Which means at least Samsung and SONY, and probably Motorola. Which means a heavily modified ROM of Ubuntu/Mer on the OEM's kernel.

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I never really understood the general attitude toward Google collecting information. If you take the time to read practically any privacy policy on the web (yes, including this site) you will see that they all allow the capture your personal information and to use that data at the discretion of the sites owner. Go ahead, take a look.

But this is old hat. Companies have been doing this for years to better market products. This includes government, enterprise, not-for profit, and extends all the way down to small retailers. All (successful) organizations collect and analyse information (even if its just receipts) about their customers and exploit this information to make more money.

This certainly includes MS who has proven themselves to have far less scruples than should be legal.

Incidentally, the company that you claim is worse than MS, Google, is also ironically one of the ONLY companies that actually allows you to remove your collected data, and even provides a user-friendly interface to do it. They even promote transparency by making it easier for lay-people to read their policies!

To think that MS is somehow a more responsible holder of your information is straight lunacy.

- Capt'n

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

Nope.

That Android will gain ground on Windows is practically a guarantee. This is the first time in decades that MS will have to share store display-space with at least two OSs that have generated tremendous momentum in the last short years. Android in particular is gobbling up user share.

And, Android does process multitasking. The opinion that it doesn't is based entirely on ignorance. It does it differently than something like Linux or Windows, but make no mistake, it is there. In fact it offers finer granularity than many traditional system and gives developers the ability to choose when the app will be cached given the user-driven events (eg. losing focus).

If you were implying user-level multitasking (eg. display panes, or floating windows), then generally yes, this is currently lacking as an OS feature.* However, I expect that this will become part of the OS in short term, and I certainly hope a multi-pane approach is implemented.

*I say generally, in that some apps (eg. DICE video player) exploit remote-view to create floating windows regardless of the apps visibly running underneath.

-Capt'n

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Android will outsell Windows, OSX, iOS and Linux in a matter of weeks/months.

It all depends how you categorize things. I for one won't call a 7in craplet a competitor for a 17in gaming laptop.

Android will win in phones (I mean they already won).
But to see if they will in on TVs is unlikely (against cable tv, other competitors, consoles).
And to see them win in tablets is also unlikely (iPad is preferred, Win8 is. better).

So unless Android does something drastic like W8, it won't be able to dominate the tablet industry and won't be making the laptop/desktop market share either. Those enhancements may not win it the tablet market, nor make a dint into the laptop/desktop market... but it can cause it to win/dominate the TV/console market.

The little things have a big effect, usually long time into the industry.

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

Captain's in the house
*woot woot*

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If you segment the market into specialities then yes, mobile chipsets will pale compared to the power of a dedicated gaming platform. I'm referring to the general market and sales specifically (not quality, specs, or openness -- just consumer preference).

Android is currently selling more phones than any other product represented by an alternative OS with healthy growth and momentum. This could certainly change... There is no definitive "won," merely winning for the moment, just ask Nokia.

And Android is a stones throw from taking the front running position in the tablet market sales as well (at least in the US). Tablet growth has seen impressive growth over the last year, which seems similar to what happened with smartphones. And devices with much nicer characteristics are on the horizon (the crazy Nexus 10, which I guess will cost around $350).

What people don't really realize is that iOS and Android are ALREADY taking a bite out of the general PC industry and are gaining steam rapidly. MS's Win8 seems like a play for MS to increase profitability (funnel everyone through the Windows Store), and to slow the advance of the competition into territory once exclusively monopolized by them. Any growth is good growth for Android in this regard.

I could say the same for Windows Phone 8 in the smartphone market. It's Android/iOS's game to lose as they currently dominate the space.

But make no mistake Android's technology strategy is extremely sound and very forward thinking. It is built for portability, across architectures, and in different form factors (some headless). As chip prices continue to fall as do other device components, expect to see Android pop up in unlikely places like in-car dash displays, refrigerators, thermostats, stereos, TVs, mirrors, light fixtures, watches, etc, etc, etc. It will empower the capability of connectivity far beyond what we're accustomed to and already has begun in some cases. This same portability has allowed Android to so easily spill over from smartphones to tablets, to TVs (ie. more robust UI API, multi-core support, etc).

- Capt'n

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

I disagree that Android will overtake Windows in number of devices in 2016. Why 2016? It will happen in the next 2-3 years. 2012 already see the Windows user base declining while Android is galloping ahead. However the comparison is largely moot as we are not comparing like devices. PCs and laptops against tablets and smartphones is like apples and oranges. Interesting but irrelevant.

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Android is a freight-train. With the announcement of the Nexus 4, Nexus 7 refresh, and the Nexus 10, it should give Android another sizeable boost. Consider the starting prices of each $299, $199, $399. All three together they cost under $900, which is a steal by any metric. And the Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 should be top-of-class performers.

Plus Android 4.2 has some out-of-the-box features that the lay-consumer will love. Features like Photo Shpere comes to mind. Also multiple users is very, very welcome.

But perhaps the biggest news today is that Walmart will be carrying the Nexus 7. Walmart is HUGE. This means that this holiday season, an ultra-cheap and ultra-capable device will be offered at half the cost of the competition. It also opens the door for the retailer to carry the N4 and N7 in time.

Lastly, the Nexus 7 has had a noticeable effect on 'tablet-optimized' apps for Android, and I suspect that the Nexus 10 will continue this growth spurt into the larger form factor.

- Capt'n

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

Android versus Windooooz...
m$ (aka m@ke$$h!t) is only for one reason... 30 years ago IBM was too lazy to develop an OS for something (PC, XT, AT and Co.) they thought would only be a couple years worth fluke and therefore couldn't be bothered to develop an OS themselves...
by the time they realized their mistake, the beast was lose and became the 800 pounds gorilla of the software market...

did IBM miss out on the PC market altogether?
not quite; for nearly 15 years they were the number one "personal system" seller until...
until they realized that the PC had run its course and was going to the technological junk yard and...
liquidated their PC division

7 years later, PC gone?
well, i own two desktop replacement laptops, a nettop... and a pocket computer ¦-))))
dead? not yet, but let's be realistic, the heydays of the personal computer are gone.
especially at the workplace (the primary market for IBM, btw.) BBs, iPotatos and Android devices are used more and more instead of computers... to basically... communicate.

• phone calls
• SMSes
• e-mail
• chat
• social media

all from one and the same device...

that Maemo (nearly) was precursor in the integration (why did those early samples miss GSM !?! :mad:) be noted btw...

and m$?
well, they became the 800 lb gorilla only because... T-Rex let it run.
now, Android occupies the mobile device market and m@ke$$h!t... will never get more then crumbles... until they disappear.

btw, funny that both 30 yrs ago and today the rotten potato company was an early adopter and implementer of the technologies... but failed to conquer the market. last time, they kicked Steve Jobs out and nearly went bankrupt... who will save Apple this time???:rolleyes:

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

dont think it will replace windows anytime

jsut imagine when you're in RDP session, then the background demon will autokill your rdp session/ssh session while you are reading some instruction at your docs/browser, or vice versa when you're on rdp session/ssh session

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There are major differences between Google and any other site that just happens to collect data because they need to:

One difference is size. For the average internet user, Google is everywhere and collects more of his data than any other company. Think Google Search, YouTube, Mail, Google Talk, Docs, Plus... it's everywhere. I wouldn't mind one company having access to my mail/contacts and another one having access to my cloud documents while yet a third one knows what I search for on the web... But the fact that all of this is linked and combined by only one company is irritating.

Another difference is that for every other site, I know that they "watch me" while I'm there.... and don't know me when I'm not. Nokia has a lot of my personal data, for example, but I'm comfortable with it because I can tell when I'm on one of their sites and act accordingly. - Google offers hidden services to site owners (like Google Analytics). Through these popular services, they keep collecting data even though I don't see anything Google-related on the site I'm browsing.

A third issue is that Google's approach to data is different from most other web services (except facebook etc.). Most companies need to store your data in order to provide the services at all. They have a business model that doesn't depend on your data. It just happens that they get to know you as their customer. - For Google, on the other hand, personal data is the business model. They don't offer services and then find that as a side effect, these services give them access to personal information. No, it's the other way round: They need data and offer free services like honey pots so that people give them what they want.

This on the web alone is a threat. But combined with devices like smartphones that reach even deeper into your real life, it's really, really dangerous.

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This is where I stopped reading your post.

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@benny1967

.. and how exactly does MS escape the three points listed? What about popular cross domain sites like disqus, livefyre, addthis, etc that collect intimate data and make business of selling that data? What about the numerous companies that buy this data for their private use? What about software ecosystems (Ovi, iTunes, Windows Store, Ubuntu One, etc) that use login? What about credit card companies who, I might add, also resell your data? What about banks?

It seems that Google is under fire by virtue of its size and popular opinion, but not in its uniqueness of practices. Perhaps this attention is due to their transparency on the matter, where most companies prefer to keep these practices private.

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Jeeze, any platform that gets $$$ from advertising will track you as much as possible, whether it is FB (like button everywhere anyone?), MS, Apple etc.

ALL are evil and hell, even Nokia gave the middle finger to Maemo community on that SMS issue. You think ethics is a concern to any corporation ?

Google is singled out not because it is more evil - but because they are a very competent evil.

But hey I would do the same thing - they give out alot of free **** and it all needs to be paid for and they have to make profit.

Hell if you really dont like Android, you have the source i guess so go cook your own rom.

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No. That's why I don't spend my time defending them on the internet.

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@benny1967

My apologies for calling you paranoid. Privacy issues do concern me. Here's a response on the subject that I liked:

http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl...3&cid=41813439

Re: Android to beat Windows in 2016: Gartner
 

someone scream bull-****.. then imagine ever replacing your windows with android.. in 2016... bby 2016 apple n maybe nokia.. depends on how constant there rise is.

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The link I provided describes changes to the linux kernal. I thought this would be of
interest to developers here (old news now for such folks I guess) as such modifications
would facilitate development as well as the running of android apps on linux distributions
which use this or later versions of linux kernal. As the first post's link describes a
prediction of greater android usage relative to windows OS, I would think that such
extensions to the linux kernal would help strengthen Android's hand.
If that is not the case, fine with me...

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Google is singled out because they are the "owner" of most popular mobile phone platform and one of the biggest internet company at the moment...

30 yrs ago Big Blue (aka IBM) was the big evil whatever as the biggest IT company back then...
10 yrs ago, m$ was...
since a few years Google is and this will only get worse as long as ANDRoid expands...

never kept any of those companies from florishing :cool: >¦-))))))