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Makeclick 2012-11-21 10:18
Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Hi everyone!

New videos (2013->)

Jolla Sailfish OS: Software Tour

Demo Sailfish OS durch JOLLA CEO Marc Dillon (English)

Gpodder Demo

Jolla Sailfish OS and UI hands on



Older videos <-2013

Here is latest videos. Hope you like it. I even see little Android head there ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tRZxM9rNyZ4

Finnish mtv3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHn3q...ature=youtu.be

If you missed this morning's Jolla launch, here it is - Enjoy ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdLUJ...ature=youtu.be

More videos (thanks to: Tissot,)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_c_BqnR_vAM

Now also official Youtube channel. (Thanks to: Rauha)
http://www.youtube.com/jollaofficial
Sailfish, Why Should You Care? - Interview with Jolla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9KshXtbfMc

SDK video is the better vid from the launch. (Thanks to: Bingomio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrwYyN-vNVo&feature=plcp

Jolla Answers Your Sailfish Questions (Thanks to: mariusmssj)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW0hn...ature=youtu.be

UI demo Finnish (Thanks to: mivoligo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEbOGuxuig

More info (Thanks to: mariusmssj)
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/29/h...fish-os-video/


Jolla's home page
http://jolla.com/

You want more that videos and analysis? More pages on talk.maemo.org

Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms:
Here

Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones:
Here

praveenchand 2012-11-21 10:25
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simply superb!

tissot 2012-11-21 10:31
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That's nice. Amazing multitasking from N9 and then some more with the direct integration of the multitasking tiles.

MINKIN2 2012-11-21 10:34
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It looks very nice. Not too far from our harmattan, which is a nice touch

tissot 2012-11-21 10:40
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UI does look nice. Now it's about the hardest thing and getting polished product out with enough support behind it.

patlak 2012-11-21 10:41
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It seems like this is a combination of the old Harmattan UI and the one on N9.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INVlmjJKXjk

Looks lovely. Love the transparency in the UI :)

Mitrigol 2012-11-21 10:47
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mmmhhh, excuse me, but isn't the video above showing meego? (in patlak's post)

It is not the same as sailfish, we'll have to wait this evening for the slush demo

Also, yes, there is definitely a little android logo on the last screen showed in the official demo ^^

patlak 2012-11-21 10:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitrigol (Post 1296649)
mmmhhh, excuse me, but isn't the video above showing meego? (in patlak's post)

It is not the same as sailfish, we'll have to wait this evening for the slush demo

Also, yes, there is definitely a little android logo on the last screen showed in the official demo ^^
That was the old Harmattan UI. I'm showing the similarities ;)

shmerl 2012-11-21 10:59
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Running on N950: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHn3qp_E3_A

Zero Six 2012-11-21 11:00
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multi tasking mean more energy usage, hope it does come with high capacity of battery. cmiiw

btw, are there any physical appearance of the real phone?
hope it does come with physical keyboard too.

Hurrian 2012-11-21 11:07
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Damn, I love the look of that UI.

A lot's been taken from Harmattan, and further polished. I like it.

From the looks of it, it looks like the new UI is swipe-heavy.
No complaints from me there.

tissot 2012-11-21 11:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero Six (Post 1296654)
multi tasking mean more energy usage, hope it does come with high capacity of battery. cmiiw

btw, are there any physical appearance of the real phone?
hope it does come with physical keyboard too.
Nothing about hardware yet, other than that it will 99% sure run on ST-Ericsson NovaThor SoC.
Jolla hardware announcement will come this year.

mariusmssj 2012-11-21 11:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1296661)
Damn, I love the look of that UI.

A lot's been taken from Harmattan, and further polished. I like it.

From the looks of it, it looks like the new UI is swipe-heavy.
No complaints from me there.
I love button free navigation and it's so cool that you can interact with application while in multi-task view!!!

Prestige 2012-11-21 11:22
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It looks good but in my opinion BB10 looks even better..
I'm comparing these two OS's because both are based on
Meego UI..

Laiquendi 2012-11-21 11:38
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A little bit dissapointed after N9's Harmattan, expected more than that.
And icons on them bottom and icons in general.... (((
Sad...
Everything looks like a downgrade after N9.

kai_en 2012-11-21 11:41
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I agree that the icons are not beautiful but probably that would change. I'm just curious about notification, how's that being handled

Dave999 2012-11-21 11:42
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A mix of windows tiles, Android desktop and n9 swipe...Did anyone saw if iOS was included?

Zoxir 2012-11-21 11:43
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You can slice it, you can dice it but meego keeps coming back. Love the new UI can't wait for the final product

tissot 2012-11-21 11:45
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one more hands-on video i had not seen before.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/11/21/j...nning-on-n950/

mariusmssj 2012-11-21 11:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1296689)
one more hands-on video i had not seen before.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/11/21/j...nning-on-n950/
I must say I'm really liking it :D

Akkumaru 2012-11-21 11:52
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The icons look like android. Anybody else thinks that?

Wikiwide 2012-11-21 11:55
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The video on Jolla website is astounding. Its start and finish, especially, show the unique, innovative, beautiful approach. However, I will have to watch it again and again to understand just how the demonstrated interface works.
Quote:
Jolla has moved them to the lockscreen, allowing you to maximise what is shown on your display.
Yes, this solution is most definitely welcome.
Quote:
Jolla has also integrated a new “Pulley Menu,” (shown above) providing mobile owners with easy ways to interact with their Jolla device. While a pull down mechanism might be present in Android or iOS, Sailfish offers a completely new method of operation. Instead of using the pull down to refresh content or show notifications, Jolla’s OS allows users to display menu items that help share photos or videos to social networks with the push of a button.
Grateful. Android menu has been annoying me, when I looked at it; notifications interface within Maemo is much better [than anything else I have ever seen in reality], intuitively obvious (I am speaking about hildon banner, notification led and, when a call is missed, twinkling left top corner).
Quote:
The OS will feature “effortless multitasking,” allowing users to switch between running applications directly on the homescreen, “ending a call, pausing a song or without needing to enter the application.”
How do you make the list of running applications visible on the homescreen? Is it brought onto the homescreen by a swipe? Is an application switched to by a swipe? And the application never uses the full screen - the background is always visible at the left and right - ah, it's because of different form factors, on real phone it doesn't have these ledges? In the end, the background changes from orange-with-tree to blue-with-city - how does it happen (look at 51.778: the brief moment when neither background is seen), is it because there are several homescreens with different backgrounds, and direction of swipe affects to which of them you return from task manager?
I hope they will soon have a promotional video with hardware and software showcased, like the beautiful video about N900. They could show a close-up of sailfish eye, or sail, then...
Best wishes.

MINKIN2 2012-11-21 11:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1296689)
one more hands-on video i had not seen before.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/11/21/j...nning-on-n950/

TMO is going to get a lot of spam requests for this to be ported to the n9 now.

That UI is very lovely IMO. Have they showed off the ACL yet?

AGui 2012-11-21 12:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1296653)
The UI seems nice on the video, but I think you need to use it yourself to have a good opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if you often go back to the running application screen while scolling up the application grid. Also, they kept some swipe gestures, but not the animations that made you understand it right away what you're doing. Here, when he swipes, there isn't any card following your finger out of the screen, like on the N9. It may be due to a Nokia patent, but I hope they will come up with a more intuite way.

I also think they lack a proper identity. When you see a squircle, immediately you think Harmattan/Symbian/Nokia. There, their icons have different shapes and styles, there is no coherence, and it could be any Android frontend. And it seems to me that many of the new concepts found in Sailfish are also in the new Blackberry OS, so I hope they won't fight each other with some patents.

I am also a bit worried that there is no status bar. I like seeing all the time my battery state, my network and having a notification icon for messages or updates whatever the application I am using at the moment. It's good that they want to do something different, but they should be careful not to loose in usability.

I have a lot of hopes for Jolla, that's why I point out the negative aspects. But there are also a good number of positive ones. Android compatibility is a huuuge advantage over Harmattan. I also like a lot the idea of the UI adapting to the main colours of the wallpaper. The interactive tiles seems like a good idea to me, even if I'd like to use it myself to have a better idea.

They just presented the current state of their new OS, I am sure it will be improved over time. And I'm looking forward to being able to install that on my N9 for testing.

tissot 2012-11-21 12:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1296689)
one more hands-on video i had not seen before.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/11/21/j...nning-on-n950/
With a proper hardware (ST-Ericsson) and software truly optimized that UI could be stunning and properly smooth. With that kind of UI the response needs to be as smooth and fast as possible. I really mean smooth here, iOS, Android and WP8 kind of smooth.

Again, they will need to get this out in time. It will be a hard task for company like Jolla, but i got my fingers crossed for it.

mariusmssj 2012-11-21 12:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AGui (Post 1296698)
The UI seems nice on the video, but I think you need to use it yourself to have a good opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if you often go back to the running application screen while scolling up the application grid. Also, they kept some swipe gestures, but not the animations that made you understand it right away what you're doing. Here, when he swipes, there isn't any card following your finger out of the screen, like on the N9. It may be due to a Nokia patent, but I hope they will come up with a more intuite way.

I also think they lack a proper identity. When you see a squircle, immediately you think Harmattan/Symbian/Nokia. There, their icons have different shapes and styles, there is no coherence, and it could be any Android frontend. And it seems to me that many of the new concepts found in Sailfish are also in the new Blackberry OS, so I hope they won't fight each other with some patents.

I am also a bit worried that there is no status bar. I like seeing all the time my battery state, my network and having a notification icon for messages or updates whatever the application I am using at the moment. It's good that they want to do something different, but they should be careful not to loose in usability.

I have a lot of hopes for Jolla, that's why I point out the negative aspects. But there are also a good number of positive ones. Android compatibility is a huuuge advantage over Harmattan. I also like a lot the idea of the UI adapting to the main colours of the wallpaper. The interactive tiles seems like a good idea to me, even if I'd like to use it myself to have a better idea.

They just presented the current state of their new OS, I am sure it will be improved over time. And I'm looking forward to being able to install that on my N9 for testing.
I think it has no identity because you give it one! The phone becomes personal to you, you apply your ambience change your background and what not. That's my assumption

olympus 2012-11-21 12:10
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I just wonder what happens if you have more than 4 apps in multitasking?

benny1967 2012-11-21 12:10
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Mhm... What if, say, 10 or 20 applications are open? Will they just fill the homescreen so that the grid of icons moves further down? Or do we swipe left and right?

Akkumaru 2012-11-21 12:11
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The eyes in the Jolla video, I reckon it's the motion sensor ;)

sunyakram 2012-11-21 12:19
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm but i need keyboard

Kein 2012-11-21 12:21
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I saw in one video the user unlock the screen with a double tap. I hope Nokia doesn't sue them.

So if it runs on N950 it should be able to run on N9, right?

jd4200 2012-11-21 12:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1296708)
I saw in one video the user unlock the screen with a double tap. I hope Nokia doesn't sue them.

So if it runs on N950 it should be able to run on N9, right?
I don't think a double tap can be patented; that's like saying you could sure a company for using a button to power on a phone.

MINKIN2 2012-11-21 12:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunyakram (Post 1296706)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm but i need keyboard
press shift 5 times, and toggle sticky keys ;)

You have a point though, a hwkb would be great. Hopefully with them developing on the n950 they would have included kb support

Kein 2012-11-21 12:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jd4200 (Post 1296713)
I don't think a double tap can be patented; that's like saying you could sure a company for using a button to power on a phone.
Don't be so sure about the U.S. Patent Office. Apple succeeded in patenting rounded rectangles and slide to unlock.

tissot 2012-11-21 12:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1296715)
Don't be so sure about the U.S. Patent Office. Apple succeeded in patenting rounded rectangles.
Yeah there has been far more obvious things patented than double tap to unlock the phone.

Jolla did say that they were in no danger to be sued by Nokia. I think they as partly the team who were developing harmattan have some agreements with Nokia. Nokia did the same with some other people/teams who left Nokia to establish their own company.

MINKIN2 2012-11-21 12:49
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According to the verge, that ACL is actually Myriads Alien Dalvik!?!?!

Dave999 2012-11-21 12:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1296723)
According to the verge, that ACL is actually Myriads Alien Dalvik!?!?!
What? No...?!?!

http://openmobileww.com/

and

http://www.myriadgroup.com/

I don't think its the same...think someone is wrong :D

jd4200 2012-11-21 12:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kein (Post 1296715)
Don't be so sure about the U.S. Patent Office. Apple succeeded in patenting rounded rectangles and slide to unlock.
HaHa. Wasn't aware of that.

rash.m2k 2012-11-21 12:56
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I don't see anything ground breaking to be honest, sure it looks pretty nice.
But there is nothing to get me to switch over to it - yet.

I need an upgrade, the N9 is just too slow now, as soon as that stupid smartsearch or tracker kicks in then messages don't show up in my inbox immediatley. But it is like 3 year old tech.

it's either going to Jolla or BB10 as the next upgrade for me. Too early to judge Jolla quite yet.

Next 6 months are going to be interesting! Are we gonna have to go with BB10 or is Jolla going to give us something truly powerful? Needs to be at least dual core, > 8mp camera and good build quality.

qwazix 2012-11-21 12:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero Six (Post 1296654)
multi tasking mean more energy usage, hope it does come with high capacity of battery. cmiiw

btw, are there any physical appearance of the real phone?
hope it does come with physical keyboard too.
They showed us at least 10 different devices that are able to run sailfish. They said the device comes in in the morning and the adaptation is ready by 4am next morning. Sounds promising. No demo of those devices though.


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