Sailfish N900
 

Do you think this is possible?

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Yes, but in what state is harder to answer.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

may be yes, but it is too early for this question.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Try Nemo on the N900, see how the poor device struggles to run it, and imagine running even heavier stuff on top of it.
I don't consider it feasible. But it should be able to boot, yes.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

I guess someone will have a go, but as Pycage points out, the hardware will struggle, even when overclocked.
Don't think it'll appear in the repos as such, more of a "trash your N900 at your own risk" endeavor.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

right answer cage

Re: Sailfish N900
 

In my opinion sailfish will can be run if will optimized for the N900 hardware

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Sure, but who will bother to do that? Meh, thumb2 is stable on omap3630, guess whether it is used in Harmattan. I bet it is not used in Sailfish too. By "historical reasons" I guess.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Is anyone trying to port one for N900. If nemo can run, why not sailfish?

Re: Sailfish N900
 

So... is it time for harmattan-999-pr-thumb?

I just checked some of the binaries from Harmattan with 'file' amd you're right - the binaries are indeed compiled without Thumb support.

Maybe we should tell Jolla to build their binaries with Thumb on their devices?

Re: Sailfish N900
 

one word - aegis ;)

Shall we? I'll contact and start contributing to Jolla/Sailfish after stskeeps (or anyone from the Meego DE team now working for Jolla) gives CSSU team access to the source code of the closed Fremantle bits they have backed-up on their home PCs. That way I'll have a free time to spend on Sailfish, instead of wasting over a month to RE 3000 lines of code (alarmui, tklock, powerkeymenu) just to be able to wipe someone's ***. Though I don't see that happening.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

I think we should tell the ex-Nokians that yes, we indeed want Thumb-compiled binaries!

(Oh, and I don't suppose the ex-Nokians would... unknowingly slip you a tar.gz with source for incredibly stupid bits such as dsme and the rest?)

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Mer/Nemo has an experimental thumb build since last 2 or 3 public builds.
Right now it's only for the N9 builds, not for the N900 builds as the N900 HW adaptation kernel used in the Nemo image doesn't have the errata workarounds (yet).

They're looking at the community to supply the Thumb patches for the N900 HW Adapt. kernel and then they'll happily provide a full N900 Thumb Mer/Nemo build too, as they're doing for N9.

So, the Mer (and also Jolla/Sailfish) guys are clearly going into the thumb direction :)

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Well, IIRC Pali's newest u-boot with bootmenu already integrates the Thumb fix needed by the OMAP3 (flipping bits in Secure Monitor).

Flipping the kconfig setting should be all that's needed, and then we could probably have, once again, armv7tnhl builds for the N900 ;)

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Jolla just have to ask Nokia, and if they get a yes they can optimise the whole system around the n900 for further development. Think a modern version of Nokia n900 made by Jolla, running sailfish perfectly in landscape and portrait mode, with a new screen and some updated hardware to go along with QT.

Perhaps Jolla should ask Nokia for the option of porting sailfish to Nokia n900.

An optimised version of sailfish could run better than Maemo on Nokia n900. X is a bad interface and sailfish use weyland (I think without calling X, just weyland and jolla render)

Re: Sailfish N900
 

isnt the issue that the N900 drivers dont support Wayland so thats were it dies. Without sources pointless.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Love this post. And although I am most certain nobody left an accidental backup of the Fremantle closed bits source code at home with him / her, there is no way telling those parts did not actually find their way to usenet or PB or something, accidentally packed into old versions of dev util x or driver pack y long time ago. They might even by pre PR 1.3 archeology but.. better than nothing?
Somebody just needs to drop an anonymous line when he stumbles on those parts.. accidentally of course.

But why count on MeegoDE team now at Jolla? They now have to earn their living through Sailfish success. Your progress on Fremantle is their potential competition making it "just business" all over again or am I seeing that wrong?

Are there no free and idealistic ex-employees laid off by Nokia that are now about finished admiring the genius modern corporate tactics such as deployed by Microsoft the monopoly machine in the taking ownership of the Nokia board, company to just flush their baby and job future down the drain who can step up?

Re: Sailfish N900
 

Not really. Do you think the Jolla device is running with native Wayland drivers?

I would guess that nobody's ported Sailfish due to lack of interest.

Re: Sailfish N900
 

There is a proof of concept N900 running on wayland. Done by stskeeps.
Also there is: https://github.com/niqt/NemomobileWa...hl-n900-rnd.ks

https://twitter.com/crazybulgarian/s...28851820679168