N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

hi everyone, is there a tweak (mod) to transfer image or music using NFC to other device beside N9. Thanks

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

It works with other Nokia products from the Symbian range, so it's not N9 to N9 only. Seems to be Nokia only, though. And: No, I'm sorry, I don't know any ways to change this.

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

NFC should work fine with all devices... Provided they too have the NFC hardware.

I don't think the S3 does? (could be wrong)


Edit: Just seen Benny's post. My point still stands, though. They should work unless the manufacturer decides to be difficult. ;)

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

I think this is a device limitation; NFC on Nokia phones use Bluetooth as the base medium while on Android Google decided to use WiFi hence the incompatibility...


(The above is what I read somewhere so I can't guarantee its veracity)

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

after samsung (android) nfc protocol initiated..they will open connection using WiFi direct

after nokia (N9, symbian) nfc protocol initiated...they will open connection using bluetooth ftp


so in short, n9 <-> android will never work.

not sure about windows phone nfc file transfer yet

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

thanks alot guys, now i understood that NFC only work among Nokia :)

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

Interesting, I didn't know that. OTOH - wtf? I mean, why would Android choose WiFi? I'd assume that in 80% of the cases when people want to transfer files, they're not both on the same WiFi network, if on any WiFi network at all. Seems like a very unstable solution...?

(Or was WiFi just an example and it would work as long as the devices are just online, including 3G?)

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

never say never :)

what about opening a wifi connection on n9 by nfc, i think this could be done already by profilematic... maybe with some tuning it could work.

Edit: to be more spcific about the "tuning"
creating a shell-script which opens wifi-hospot and maybe sets some needed parameters and running it as custom action
don't know what's needed exactly to enable file transfer, but for me it does not seem completely impossible...

This is about an Ad-Hoc connection directly between the 2 devices, without any router or something like that.

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

From what I had read it was sought of agreed on a global standard but not signed on that Bluetooth would be the medium of choice for NFC...

However, since it wasn't a signed standard, Google chose to use the WiFi antenna of devices to do the transfers instead...

Its a similar situation to Apple's headphones standards which mean many new/popular headphones don't work on the N9 without an adaptor due to the way the contacts are wired...Nokia used the global/prevalent standard, Apple re-invented the wheel and got away with it due to their size same as Google & NFC...

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

Actually I think this might be a NFC limitation on Android, had same issues with Xperia series...

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

An interesting article: http://www.androidcentral.com/nfc-sh...indows-phone-8

One comment there says:

the comment is a response to:


Edit: Maybe a more informative/reliable thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1843797

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

I'm using nfc to transfer photos from N9 to Nexus 7 with no problem. Sometimes the bluetooth transfer does not start, but all other times it works. What I dislike is the need to conferm every time the transfer on the Nexus 7 side.

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

Android Beam was introduced in Jelly Bean. That's why Samsung made S Beam, and why the person mentioned (GNex vs S3) failed to transfer stuff.
There's no standard way to send large files. NFC's payloads are very small. Open the browser on an S3, open a site and tap the N9, it'll send a bookmark, but when it comes to photos, each manufacturer does it their own way.
(S Beam uses Wi-Fi Direct, it's an open standard by Wi-Fi Alliance that can be used in devices that support it. It's not related to Android)

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

Woah MAG! Long time no see :D

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

That is correct. S3 with Jelly Bean can use both S Beam and Android Beam.

For File transfer between my N900 and my S3 I use Scp. Andftp Pro on the S3.
Normal manually initiated Bluetooth works too, but a bit slow.
Kies Air also works well if one doesn't like scp.

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

MAG,

The xda link above has someone transferring files of upto 250MB from one SGS3 to N7 so I don't think that NFC can't handle larger files...


That reminds me, I should try my SGS2 running JB and my N9 and see can that huge file actually go thru...

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

+1

I try to transfer photos N9 -> S3 and S3 -> N9, both S Beam and Android Beam failed.
And if you want to use N9 hot-spot and try to connect to N9 with a Samsung (phone or tablet), they also failed, because Sammy do not know ad-hoc (plenny of this situation on JoikuSpot site

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

NFC itself can't. S Beam, Android Beam, and the N9 only use NFC to do a "handshake", the files are then transferred using either Bluetooth or WiFi direct.

S Beam seems like a simple protocol actually, it sends some JSON data over NFC containing the path to a file and the mac address of the device. The other device connects to this address using Wi-Fi direct and pulls the file.

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

Communication between N9 and N7 is too flakey. It seems like they can't be near each other for long enough. Both make some mating sounds but the transfer rarely begins. I managed to start the transfer once and it never completed.

Sending from the N7 to the N9 seems even more difficult.

However, communication between N9's or N9's and 701's is perfect. Just a slight touch and your photo is over the air.

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

What about a N9 and a Lumia 920, they beep and recognize but are unable to transfer anything.

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

On the topic of NFC on different Nokia products, I tried once to transfer files to Nokia Oro (C7 but gold one..) but failed..

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

The N9 seems to be able to send images and the S3 recognises it as an "Incoming beam".
The trick is to have bluetooth on on the Galaxy S3 before tapping the devices together.

Edit: And the S3 can send images to the N9! Again, just have bluetooth on.

Some tips:
* Have bluetooth turned on on the Galaxy S3 and the N9.
* When "Touch to beam" shows up on the S3, wait, till the N9 shows the NFC notification at the top, then tap it the screen on the S3.
* Turn off S Beam (and turn on Android Beam, Jelly Bean required).
* Use AOSP Gallery, the 4.2 gallery works fine. The stock gallery doesn't follow Android Beam guidance.
* When sending from N9, don't use the share button, just tap the device with what you want to share on-screen, for example, when a contact is open on the N9, tap the device with the S3 and wait for confirmation.

nicceeeee thanks

Re: N9 NFC to other device (Samsung S3)
 

If anyone is still interested in this, I made an Android app that can send anything over Android Beam (Jelly Bean / 4.1+ only).
Just tap the share button and select Beam File.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...madag.beamfile

I'll open source it soon of course.

congratulation, now we have an app to.communicate between Nokia & Android.