Help: Does my device is normal?
 

hello everybody,
i am a new user of n900 want to ask & apologize me if this subject is repost.
i just uninstall a few app from my device like Media BAR for maemo5, Horizontal call and desktop clock. suddenly my cpu % load strange (for me) and i see it from my system info gadjet.here the list

open application:
conky

aktive cpu:
1.Xorg
2.hildon-home
3.hildon-status-m
4.hildon-destop
5.dbus-daemon
6.mce
7.pulseaudio
8.conky

the device in 250mhz (in conky)
for number 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7 (i see from conky)
the usage % always goes up & down from 2% in too 26% (in system info gadjet) they eat cpu and always repeating, never stop. Does my device is normal? cause my battery draining. Please help me Thx. :)

Re: need help about CPU Top % usage
 

anyone please.. thx :)

Re: need help about CPU Top % usage
 

Elaborate more
do you have cssu testing , thumb and kernel power installed
give more information please

Re: need help about CPU Top % usage
 

@sourav.dubey: im don't use cssu and using kp50 with the latest fw pr 1.3.1, but in generally is that normal cpu always running up from 1% into 26% and never stop clocking of % in this case im only run conky on desktop with frecuencies 250mhz thx my friend.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

waiting for someone again, please...:)

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

It's hard to draw a conclusion from the information you've provided, but I'd say it looks OK. Please define "draining". All batteries drain, the question is how fast :)

Install powertop, open a terminal, type "root" or "sudo gainroot" and then "powertop". Lock the screen and wait a minute, then unlock the screen and post here the results (at least the table at the beginning and the last two lines).

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

oke.. i will try it reinob :)

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Total wakeups 2283, 76.1/s | IRQ 1575, 52.5/s | Timers 708, 23.6/s
HW wakeups 193, 6.4/s | Real gp_timers expired 97, 3.2/s

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

for this condition im using opera mobile, conky and terminal-X. how about my device reinob, please help me thanks..

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

OK. The number of wake-ups is a bit high, but if you did this while running conky and opera, I guess it's OK.

In my case, with only terminal, I guess 16.7 wakeups/s (2.8 HW wakeups/s).

You could try it again closing everything except the terminal. If you really think you have a problem (how fast is your battery draining anyway?), you could post the full output of powertop (do "powertop > /home/user/MyDocs/powertop.txt") and then paste the contents of powertop.txt here.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

now im only using terminal-X
Total wakeups 1543, 51.4/s | IRQ 1148, 38.3/s | Timers 395, 13.2/s
HW wakeups 145, 4.8/s | Real gp_timers expired 32, 1.1/s

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

master reinob i dont understand how to order create full of output powertop please guide me..

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

now with only x-terminal, how about my device.. is that normal? can someone explain to me.. reinob it seem offline.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Please reread Reinob's post
he gave you command on how to post powertop result

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Looks OK. Can you state what exactly your problem is? how fast is your battery draining?

This is not a chat!

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

I think your powertop results are normal for a dormant n900. For example:
From my n900, terminal active with powertop.
As Reinob wrote: what is the battery drain you see: 3 hrs etc?

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

@reinoob: i wrong typed.. please forgive me.. :)

The exactly of my problem is my device.. always repeating prosessing and never stop/slowdown likes:
1.Xorg
2.hildon-home
3.hildon-status-m
4.hildon-destop
5.dbus-daemon
6.mce
7.pulseaudio

and this is the effect from them. now i write with text (i watch from system info gadjet on desktop n900) :
250mhz ->2% then
250mhz ->10% then
250mhz ->4% then
250mhz ->20% then
250mhz ->6% then
250mhz ->22% then
250mhz ->2% then
250mhz ->15% then
250mhz ->6% then
250mhz ->17% then
250mhz ->11% then
250mhz ->26% then
and repeting again.. and again.
they never rest or slowdown it seem the prosessor likes a running something
in fact im only open a conky on my device. please help me reinob..
what wrong with my device.. im worry my prossesor get weak :'( and my battery standby usually take 11 hour but now only 8 hour (original battery 1320mAh)

This is start happen after or maybe i dont know for sure because im a new user, but i feel it after uninstall the Media bar for Maemo 5 (XpressMusic) cmiw.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

@handaxe: oke thanks for the example :)

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

im will trying.. but i still confusing how..
i can't find powertop.txt

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Okay do this and post
root
powertop > /home/user/MyDocs/powertop.txt

using above command it will create a txt file in home directory i.e N900 (filemanager)
please don't open anything before doing this for good information not even conky

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

The reason why these never stop is because they are important parts of the Maemo system.

Don't mess with them, killing their processes may trigger a watchdog reboot.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

thanks.. im understand now :)
but i had write a post again to reinob and now i waiting from reinob for the result and answer first.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

@Hurrian : that right.. but does my device is normal, if..
250mhz ->2% then
250mhz ->10% then
250mhz ->4% then
250mhz ->20% then
250mhz ->6% then
250mhz ->22% then
250mhz ->2% then
250mhz ->15% then
250mhz ->6% then
250mhz ->17% then
250mhz ->11% then
250mhz ->26% then
and repeting again.. and again.
the percentage is jumping to high even after 5 minute from started it seem like doing something my ram is untable too.. increesing slow but can decreasing with fast too after closing unlike before staying stable increasing only a few. can you explain sir thanks..:)

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Maemo automatically manages process groups and priorities.

It's normal for CPU use to spike.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

hey.. what wrong with my device can someone explain to me... (im sorry.. im seprises and confuse too)
this morning after charging im turn on my device then i see my cpu at 250mhz they load only 1 into 10 percentage and always repeating prosessing under 10 percentage (standby-no open aplication) its seem normal again this 2 result of power top+terminal-X :
Total wakeups 1628, 54.3/s | IRQ 1202, 40.1/s | Timers 426, 14.2/s
HW wakeups 180, 6.0/s | Real gp_timers expired 93, 3.1/s

Total wakeups 1200, 40.0/s | IRQ 847, 28.2/s | Timers 353, 11.8/s
HW wakeups 95, 3.2/s | Real gp_timers expired 34, 1.1/s

its strange can someone explain to me.. yesterday i had reboot and turn on device for 3 times and nothing change. but right now..
i not sure my problem is done.. and what must i do if this problem came back again to my device.. thanks for help.

viento23

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Are you half-**t ?
I asked you to post powertop full result (attach powertop.txt )for better guidance
with this information there is nothing wrong with your device
no one can help you with this information
and please stop spamming , post more details, then we will help you in finding out the issue
Thank you

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

yes sir..
but yesterday until my phone battery runned out, my cpu still repeating that prosessing.. i had reboot & swicth off for 3 times there no changes? but this morning my cpu device run always under 10% at 250mhz (in position standby-im not open an aplication). its weird :confused:

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

I dont understand.. what do you mean?
im wrote this problem base in true fact, im not spamming.. why i must spamming.. now simple question to you.. how to attach sample.. if today my device showing a different result from yesterday can you garantee you can explain what is the point problem at yesterday to me and all user (please dont jugde me like that)

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Look. Your N900 is a computer. A computer, when turned on, usually DOES SOMETHING. Otherwise it would not be a computer.

If you have the screen turned on and are running a program (conky), plus a number of system programs that NEED to be running (otherwise you get no e-mails, no calls, no nothing), the computer will use some energy, meaning the battery will, fast or slow, drain.

Every N900 has a number of processes running. Xorg, to name an example, is the one handling the display. Pulseaudio does the sound. Hildon-desktop and hildon-home give you the user interface. Etc, etc.

If those programs were not running, your N900 would be a paperweight.

Now, if you lock/turn off the screen, most processes will stop doing things (because e.g. the desktop doesn't need to display anything), so your CPU will go to sleep and only wake up every now and then (e.g. 5 times per second) to check if, e.g. a phone call is coming in.

So from what you've posted there is no problem. You still haven't said WHAT THE PROBLEM is. We don't know how long your battery takes to run out from being full *and* what you're doing while this happens (obviously, staring at conky for hours will drain the battery faster than if you turn the screen off).

A way for us to know IF there is a problem and possibly diagnose it would be to provide the full output of powertop without running anything else (no opera, no conky, no nothing). With this it would be easy to spot if there's anything abnormal going on.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

your device is fine. As reinob says N900 is a computer not a regular phone. Even my N900's processor jumps from 3% to 25%. its fine when you are running conky which uses cpu also.

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

Is this now solved?
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I figured (for future purposes also) what would be the easiest way to get information/log-files.

Step 1) Enable extras-devel
2) install powertop
3) install pastebinit
4) install rootsh
4½) disable extras-devel
5) start xterminal
6) sudo gainroot
7) powertop | pastebinit
(don't worry about warning "status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon")
8) turn screen OFF
9 wait minute, turn screen ON
10) copy address, e.g.: http://pastebin.com/kvQYPTRX

Bold text means you should type them to the terminal and press enter.

Who wants make screenshots?

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

@reinob: thx for you answer.. im sorry master reinob.. firstly i know.. yes the N900 was a computer and i know the computer always prosessing, running or doing something even we don't execute the aplication...

but 2 days ago my device prosessor running not like ussually before, they always working up into 27% at 250mhz(no aplication open) until my device off but yesterday my prossesor always working up into max 10% at 250mhz(no aplication open) until my device off (nb. ussualy my device max 10% at 250mhz in same condition before this is happen) and i just want to asked that the difference, is that normal ? or this is the sign my device getting broken.

due my friend in TI is saying there seem a hanging prosses and must be kill the program one by one in order to solved. but i don't know what must i do, soo i write my problem in here with hope someone fixed my problem. but suddenly yesterday my device make me confuse.
(im sorry if my language incorrect ang thx for trying helping me)

Re: Help: Does my device is normal?
 

[QUOTE=AapoRantalainen;1303788]Is this now solved?
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I@AapoRantalainen: im still confuse.. the problem was gone by self.
thx for future purposes.