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rahulthewall 2013-01-09 17:31

My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Hi,

In the last 6 months, my N9 has spent 3 with Nokia Care. This time, when it came back, not only was the fault (neither charge nor connect to a computer) not fixed but I could hear something rattling inside the phone if I shook it.

The shop I purchased the phone from has sent it back to Nokia and they say I'll get a full refund for my phone. So, my question is, what should be my next phone.

This is mostly for fun, but, hey I might end up buying the phone you guys vote for.

AMD 2013-01-09 17:33

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Mm.. Maybe a Note 2? If not, go for an N900. I really would like to try one out. If the problem only happened a little later you would've replaced it with a Jolla phone. Just get a list of the top phones and get the one you like.. I would either go with another N9 or an N900 if it was now.

rahulthewall 2013-01-09 17:37

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Oh, the problem is that I get store credit with digitec (the shop I purchased the phone from). As they don't have another N9 or N900 I would have to go with something else.

Note 2 - isn't that too big?

AMD 2013-01-09 17:38

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rahulthewall (Post 1312909)
Oh, the problem is that I get store credit with digitec (the shop I purchased the phone from). As they don't have another N9 or N900 I would have to go with something else.

Note 2 - isn't that too big?

I know, I'd never carry such suitcase :p Well, go for a Nexus 4 then..

HELLASISGREECE 2013-01-09 17:51

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
First choise should be the amazing Nokia N9.

Other than that, LG N4 all the way.
Thirdly, the Samsung G Nexus of course

gerbick 2013-01-09 18:22

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Nexus 4 would be my immediate choice since it's more on the cutting edge.

setter 2013-01-09 18:27

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
I don't want any of them.

rahulthewall 2013-01-09 18:27

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by setter (Post 1312930)
I don't want any of them.

Then which one do you want?

P.S. No love for the Lumia here, it seems (I was the one who voted for that ;) )

Dave999 2013-01-09 18:29

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
If these are the four you looking for I would vote nexus. But I wouldn't bought anything atm. At least wait for a few month and see what the galaxy S IV looks like and make a decision after . MWC will also give you an idea whats coming.

Buy the cheapest phone you can find for now or use an old one.

Fallenzone 2013-01-09 18:30

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
If I were you

I will buy a new N9 or second hand N900

AMD 2013-01-09 18:32

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallenzone (Post 1312934)
If I were you

I will buy a new N9 or second hand N900

He already said there isn't anyone left in the store

balisingh 2013-01-09 18:55

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE (Post 1312915)
First choise should be the amazing Nokia N9.

LOL...i got a second one. The Lumia 920 is a tank, and very useful and effortless.

AMD 2013-01-09 19:00

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by balisingh (Post 1312947)
LOL...i got a second one. The Lumia 920 is a tank, and very useful and effortless.

NO.
10chars

nbedford 2013-01-09 19:33

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
My wife has N4 and it's nice, but N9 is 5 better :)

aadityak 2013-01-10 03:20

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
I'd choose the Lumia 920! awesome specs awesome phone...the thing about the nexus 4 is that it doesn't have 4G

Kangal 2013-01-10 03:48

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1312927)
Nexus 4 would be my immediate choice since it's more on the cutting edge.

For some reason, it performs poorly.
The LG Optimus G - same internals, from same company performs better than the n4.

On top of that, the battery life of the n4 is poor (for current-gen phones). It would've been acceptable for yesteryears standards.

Another thing to consider is the lack of 4G or LTE which is a "standard" for all high-end phones. Not to mention the build quality has seen some cases with the n4. The glass back is a major flaw and set back.

And lastly, if you still want it... good luck as demand outweighs the supply.

(Personal Note: Its a great mid-range phone with a bargain price).

The iPhone 5 is really underestimated this time round. Really, it may not have the fastest processor, most memory, best camera... but they are "of the" highest quality. Support is stupidly great. Apps should always deserve a mention. The Ecosystem is just wow. And customer care is something that really needs to be experienced.... with that said, it has its obvious limitations (price, software wall etc).

The WP8's don't have much going for them. They're nice, but nowhere as featured as high-end (and some mid-range) Android devices. And more expensive. And definitely a "worse" experience to the iPhone.

So the choice is really upto you.
- The impeccable iPhone?
- The lackluster Windows Phones?
- One of the many suitable Android variants?

thedead1440 2013-01-10 07:16

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
It always depends on your needs; I understand the N9 is something that is loved; its still my daily driver till date after all but if you are investing your money into something new you must wonder if you want 2010 tech in 2013...

For me the N9 and N900 are part of history and will always remain with me as well as good learning tools... However, it may be different for you...

I understand you are from India and if i'm not wrong, the pricing for an iphone is pretty steep... If you can get it at a small top-up and just want something that works without issues and don't want to fiddle with it while paying for everything and anything then that's your match...

A Note(2) or a SGS3 is much better than getting a Nexus if you choose the Android path; you still have huge amount of apps as well as up-to-date hardware... xda is a good source of development tech so you can indulge yourself with custom ROMs etc... Most of your needs will be fulfilled but you may have to tinker with things to get them working...

WP is still in that place of "the less said of the better" so don't wonder about it :D


The above is based on what you said that you can't get a N9(00) so I assume only those 3 OSes is what your retailer sells... Of course if apps don't matter to you and you want another piece of history then you can opt for the 808 Pureview (should be available in India); the last "pure" Nokia device and one whose camera will outlive at least 2-3 years... Also, I'm not very sure but check it out with some Indians, I think a huge number of localized apps are available on the 808 due to India being the last bastion of Symbian :D

rahulthewall 2013-01-10 11:09

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
The iPhone 5 is, at this stage, what we would call the "safest" option. Since I use a MBP, the iPhone would blend in without a problem. The only problem is that as a hardware device, I find the iPhone 5 distinctly underwhelming. It does not excite me, and I would be loathe to spend huge money on a device that does not strike my fancy.

(@thedead1440: I'm Indian, but am currently living in Switzerland).

The fact that the Nexus 4 has a glass back is deeply disconcerting. I'm anything but careful with my devices, and I fear that the Nexus 4 would crack within a week in my possession. The N9 survived various falls, I'm not sure whether the Nexus would do that.

My problem is that if I want Android, I would only want stock Android. The only option would be to go with a S3 and then flash it with default Android. And yet, a Samsung device, something just does not feel right.

Still undecided at this stage, and the problem is compounded with the fact that I have an irrational liking for Nokia devices and a very rational understanding that WP8 is underwhelming at this stage.

thedead1440 2013-01-10 11:24

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
rahulthewall,

Try a S3 running touchwiz and try a S3 running stock android and you'll be happier with touchwiz...

Its not as useless as it used to be in fact I would go on to say it beats stock android too... You wouldn't need to get special players with codecs for playing back 720p videos, getting notification bar add-ons etc on touchwiz... Samsung pays for more patents vs stock AOSP so you get a better experience ;)

Try JB running S3s and they are nice as is without having to go into stock if you want something that works without much tinkering..

pipould 2013-01-10 12:13

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Just buy a second hand N9...

juiceme 2013-01-10 12:49

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
I'll second that.

rahulthewall 2013-01-10 13:47

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Again guys, I'll get store credit so I can only buy what is available in the shop. This, unfortunately, means no N9/N900/N950.

rahulthewall 2013-01-10 16:15

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1313228)
rahulthewall,

Try a S3 running touchwiz and try a S3 running stock android and you'll be happier with touchwiz...

Its not as useless as it used to be in fact I would go on to say it beats stock android too... You wouldn't need to get special players with codecs for playing back 720p videos, getting notification bar add-ons etc on touchwiz... Samsung pays for more patents vs stock AOSP so you get a better experience ;)

Try JB running S3s and they are nice as is without having to go into stock if you want something that works without much tinkering..


I'd give the S3 a try in that case. It's just that buying a Samsung feels weird. ;)

Dave999 2013-01-10 16:23

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rahulthewall (Post 1313277)
Again guys, I'll get store credit so I can only buy what is available in the shop. This, unfortunately, means no N9/N900/N950.

Have you considered galaxy note ll?

volt 2013-01-10 16:32

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
I have the Galaxy Note II as work phone here at work. But my, is that large. I'd consider the form factor a good replacement of an 6" e-reader more than a phone to stuff down my pants. It's a good looking piece of hardware though.

My coworker opted for the 920. I talked in it today, after talking with headset on the Note II and using my new LG Optimus 4X privately for a month or two following a year or two on the ZTE Blade, I was honestly surprised how much better the phone call sound was than what I'm used to these days.

A phone that has good call quality. Well, I guess that could be a focus too, for some. Here I was thinking it's all about number of features per dollar.

kumary 2013-01-10 19:25

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
My first option would have been N9

Second option would be a second hand N9

But as u said you can't get it then just wait for a couple of month go for Xperia Z

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-5204.php

or if you need one now

then I would have gone for HTC one S with Krait core porecessor.

this post is about phone then I guess Note 1 & 2 are out of option

Robissimo 2013-01-10 19:41

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
My recommendation, which is how I got my N9, was to take the phone with the highest street resale value, sell it and apply the proceeds to purchase whatever phone strikes your fancy.

Kangal 2013-01-10 22:49

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
The device can be customized with a new Launcher, Lockscreen, Status/Notification (flash MOD), Transitions (flash MOD), DPI Change... and your choice of Browsers, File Explorers, Cameras, Media Players etc etc.

All of these on a stock, shipping ROM !

Hurrian 2013-01-10 23:10

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
If you're jumping off the N9 train, and into the Android waters, I'd recommend the Galaxy S3. (cheaper option: Nexus 4, but it doesn't have a SD card slot which is a bummer for me)

If you have gorilla sausage fingers, and the pocket size that matches jeans that people of the build that comes with such fingers wear, you may be able to carry around a Note 2, which is only very slightly superior to the GS3 in specs.

Avoid HTC Android devices like the plague.

And regardless of the device you choose, flash it with Cyanogenmod as soon as you get it.

emev 2013-01-11 00:22

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
I'd definitely wait for BB10, i.e. the BlackBerry Z10.

Leinad 2013-01-11 00:22

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Mine died just 15 minutes ago!
I hate Gorilla Glass now! Such **** never happened few years ago...

Leinad 2013-01-11 00:28

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Ok, problem solved, ordered new N9 64GB black from amazon.com, will be here tomorrow or the day after...

How does Nokia handle screen-repair in countries N9 is not officially supported?

gerbick 2013-01-11 01:19

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leinad (Post 1313529)
How does Nokia handle screen-repair in countries N9 is not officially supported?

They don't. People have been repairing their own broken screens.

Leinad 2013-01-11 12:15

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Thanks gerbick, i did not think, that this is so easy.

Quick update:
found a youtube-video, how to replace the screen, cancelled my order on amazon, found a new screen on ebay for 50€, so hopefully my replacement for my dead N9 will be my reborn N9 in a few days :)

In the meantime it's fun to use good old N900 again...

Wikiwide 2013-01-11 13:22

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quick reply...
Of the choices offered in the poll, voting for Lumia 920. Why?
First, brand loyalty.
Second, inductive charging, 32 GB internal storage and not bad camera (though Galaxy S3 comes close).
Third, thick and heavy phone - hopefully, it will not be easy to break.
Fourth, 4G (just kidding; Nexus 4 has it, too).
Fifth, if Sailfish can be run on any telephone, then it can be run on Lumia 920, too. Imagine, replacing Microsoft OS with Sailfish...
Best wishes.
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Per aspera ad astra...

volt 2013-01-11 13:26

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
I agree that between the 920 and the SIII/NoteII, the 920 feels sturdier.

juiceme 2013-01-14 06:04

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 1313709)
Fifth, if Sailfish can be run on any telephone, then it can be run on Lumia 920, too. Imagine, replacing Microsoft OS with Sailfish...

I'm sorry to disappoint you here, but it has no maning in this context that "sailfish can be made to run on any device".
That sentence is propably true, as well as saying that "maemo can be made to run on any device" or "symbian s60 can be made to run on any device"

Of course they can, but that means that can be done by the makers of the devices, and without their help/active participation just next to nobody.

The problem is the closed HW, closed drivers, closed firmware for all functionalities. On top of that even the boot loaders are secured against runnig unsigned images.

It is fairly simple to get just the linux kernel running on any device, as long as the base cpu architecture is supported. For example the boot loading problem can be solved at least two ways, either finding a security flaw in the existing OS to inject own boot code into the ring 0 executor or by using JTAG to program the device flash.

But that's just the kernel, can't do much with that yet;
  • Run a serial console on it? Yes, propably.
  • Run network console on it? Propably not.
  • Display something on the screen? Fairly impossible.
  • Use GSM/GPRS/3G/4G networking? Totally impossible.

rahulthewall 2013-02-13 08:28

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Update: Nokia refused to refund me. They took my 64 GB N9 and gave me a 16 GB one. It works, but it is not what I paid for. I am not a fan of Nokia's service any more (and that would be a massive understatement).

thedead1440 2013-02-13 08:52

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
rahulthewall,

Shouldn't there be some consumer law which protects you from having to accept an inferior product from Nokia?

ranbaxy 2013-02-13 10:35

Re: My N9 is dead, what next now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1322775)
rahulthewall,

Shouldn't there be some consumer law which protects you from having to accept an inferior product from Nokia?

Nokia might even consider Lumia 800 a superior product and what if they are ready to replace his 16 GB N9 with it? :p


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