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almamo 2013-01-24 06:00

Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Found this very curious & funny picture (source) :) :

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...e_discount.jpg

What do you think? Is it really so bad? So far I could try out Microsoft's Surface (RT) which is quiet refreshing compared to for example the iPad with an appealing hardware design. But Win8 on a desktop computer (despite touchscreen or motion detection) is quiet a mess and doesn't know what it wants to be or what user it aims. Sales & stats confirm that so far...

Anyways, the thread is rather about the picture - didn't find an existing Windows8 thread.

qwazix 2013-01-24 07:10

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
They messed up the user interface. They should have perfectly seperate the two UI's or put Metro into desktop and not the other way around. Now thet frustrate all desktop windows users (billions) to provide a nice touch interface for a few tablet users.

On top of that they added another layer of multitasking to the already cluttered windows experience, and they force the user to open metro and go through hoops to open an app on the desktop, where they already are.

I think that after 2003 all the UI decisions of Microsoft are plain wrong. Changing things that are proven to work for the sake of change.

Dave999 2013-01-24 07:36

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Windows 8 is not bad at all. If you love it just use it. Ignore what others thinks. They are not you so... If you go for it don't be a fanboy about it like lots of people here.

juiceme 2013-01-24 08:10

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
It depends. I guess if I needed windows I would propably use XP, but that's a big if there :D
It's a good thing people are not forced to make that choice...

Wikiwide 2013-01-24 10:21

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1317195)
It depends. I guess if I needed windows I would probably use XP, but that's a big if there :D
It's a good thing people are not forced to make that choice...

Quick reply...
[Amused by the coincidence]I do happen to use Windows XP.
And I didn't install Windows Vista even though it was offered practically free of charge. And Windows 7 and Windows 8 are lumped into the group of too-layered-to-possibly-be-secure operating systems.
Microsoft is known for backwards compatibility of Windows; on 32bit Windows XP, I run 16bit software made in 1994 and not updated ever since.
I am not complaining about backwards compatibility, it's comfortable, but I am complaining about bloated software, because it puts one layer of user interface over another, and requires more and more hardware resources.
I am hoping I will be able to move to ReactOS, or another operating system, before Windows XP becomes too unsafe to use.
Best wishes.

AMD 2013-01-24 11:29

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Yup, Windows 7 is even easier to use and simpler. The Metro UI.. Meh. But the good thing about it is that now you can play mobile apps such as Jetpack joyride, Fruit Ninja..etc. But it is so bad that the start button went away which Windows was actually famous for. Windows 8 was not a very interesting version. But it matches Windows Phone perfectly..

juiceme 2013-01-24 12:38

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 1317239)
I am hoping I will be able to move to ReactOS, or another operating system, before Windows XP becomes too unsafe to use.

Is there anything happening on ReactOS lately?
I looked into it few years back an an alternative to XP but at that point it was pretty raw bones yet...

anonymous 2013-01-24 18:45

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
The best review of windows 8 that I have ever read. From jun 2012

http://www.zdnet.com/how-to-skip-win...-7-7000001734/

I own a copy of windows 8 and used it for some time before my laptop mobo died. Yes, Metro forces you to retrain your brain to do routine tasks and it was probably mostly a bad idea. But there's no denying that under the hood, windows 8 is better than 7 and xp. Better boot, less resources required, and more functionality.

Upgrading or sticking to your OS is up to you. If you don't want to upgrade, don't upgrade. :) it's contrite and condescending, but it's the truth.

One day your current system will die, forcing an upgrade and you will grumble along as you relearn the new UI, but you will get used to it. And you will probably use that same windows 8 machine to complain about how much windows 2020 sucks. Or your kids will.

geektech 2013-01-24 19:29

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
place the start button on left top side and tell me what it remi nd you? maemo! yes.
by the way why have two ui systems on one os? most of the people spent time in desktop, so why tiles?

Wikiwide 2013-01-24 21:09

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1317289)
Is there anything happening on ReactOS lately?
I looked into it few years back an an alternative to XP but at that point it was pretty raw bones yet...

Quick reply...
It is moving but slowly. Not abandoned, but still an alpha testing version.
http://www.reactos.org/en/news.html
Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous (Post 1317420)
One day your current system will die, forcing an upgrade and you will grumble along as you relearn the new UI, but you will get used to it. And you will probably use that same windows 8 machine to complain about how much windows 2020 sucks. Or your kids will.

I will probably 'upgrade' to Debian, Fedora, Gentoo or Minix. I certainly will not use any version of Windows higher than XP. And I will probably use the same laptop ten years later, even if I have to perform 'surgery' on it to replace failing parts.
Best wishes.
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Fuzzillogic 2013-01-24 22:09

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1317186)
Windows 8 is not bad at all. If you love it just use it. Ignore what others thinks. They are not you so... If you go for it don't be a fanboy about it like lots of people here.

For me it's not so much a matter of usability per se, but about the business shenanigans which they seem to have learned from Apple: Metro-style apps can only be acquired (and therefor distributed) via the app store. It's a new hight in restricting the owner of a computer on which software he runs. Something they've started on Windows XP by limiting drivers, themes and whatnot to MS-signed-only variants.

I've installed Kubuntu on my SSD a week ago, and moved Windows 7 to an old HDD - just in case (and hey I've paid for it). Yeah it's not without glitches, but I sure as hell won't let a paid OS dictate what I may or may not install on my computer.

qwazix 2013-01-24 22:39

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Quote:

One day your current system will die, forcing an upgrade and you will grumble along as you relearn the new UI, but you will get used to it. And you will probably use that same windows 8 machine to complain about how much windows 2020 sucks. Or your kids will.
Nah, nobody complained that he had to move out from Vista to 7. Everybody knows that every other Windows version pretty much sucks it has become predictable. Just like 10% uses vista today, 10% will use 8 in 2020 in my opinion.

gerbick 2013-01-25 11:16

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Quote:

Is Microsoft Windows 8 really that bad?
Yes. Yes it is. Not unless you have a trackpad or a touch screen. Then it's not as bad.

Kangal 2013-01-25 12:07

Re: Is Windows 8 really that bad?
 
Win8 has become modernized by cleaning 7 and starting off with a fresh plate.

Its just that halfway through, Microsoft got confused and started adding things from Windows Phone Mango and Windows 7.

Later, they realized the problem but it was too late. Then they scrambled madly to try to remove some excesses from Win8 and try to make it ARM-compatible. Win(fa)RT was leaked.

If you could redux the UX, like in Android and Desktop Linux... no problem. But I think you're only allowed minor access to the UI side of things.


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