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flotron 2013-02-26 02:58

What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
I'm very confused with this..
What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego and or Sailfish? Mer and Nemo are another different OSes?

raaj13 2013-02-26 03:02

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flotron (Post 1325244)
I'm very confused with this..
What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego and or Sailfish? Mer and Nemo are another different OSes?

Of what i know sailfish and nemo are derived from mer.

flotron 2013-02-26 03:05

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
So sailfish is not based on meego?

shmerl 2013-02-26 03:06

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
To put it shortly:

* There was Meego (a joined project by Intel and Nokia) which merged Moblin and Maemo projects. It included several subcategories targeted for different form factors (Meego tablet, Meego handset and etc.).

* Nokia deserted the project after MS paid them a couple of billions. Intel deserted shortly afterwards.

* Several Meego developers forked the project in order to preserve the accumulated effort and to continue it further. The fork was only of the part of the original project, not of the whole since Meego was quite big and had parts which started getting obsolete (like netbook). This fork consisted of two parts - Mer (MEego Relaunched) which included most core aspects of Meego, and Nemo, which forked the Meego handset (that previous effort was called Meego CE). Nemo uses Mer as a core architecturally. Mer positions itself as a distribution for vendors who create their mobile oriented OSes (and beyond).

* Sailfish was designed by engineers who left Nokia (after Nokia desertion) and created Jolla company, as well as others who joined this effort. Sailfish uses Mer as a core as well, and also uses various Nemo middleware components.

I.e. Sailfish and Nemo are "vendors" of Mer. Mer is a fork of the part of original Meego project. (Also don't confuse Meego with Harmattan which was developed by Nokia, and branded as Meego while not being Meego strictly speaking).

flotron 2013-02-26 03:19

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
ok, i understand for ex: mer would be meego and sailfish harmattan..?
But where is nemo? :D

shmerl 2013-02-26 03:21

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
No. Sailfish is not Harmattan. It can be inspired by Harmattan ideas, but it bears no code inheritance from it.

Nemo is former Meego CE: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/CE_Factsheet

Nemo is purely open, community developed mobile handset OS based on Mer.

flotron 2013-02-26 03:22

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
sure, harmattan is nokia, i mean that as harmattan was for nokia sailfish is for jolla

shmerl 2013-02-26 03:25

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flotron (Post 1325254)
i mean that as harmattan was for nokia sailfish is for jolla

Actually not. Jolla doesn't want to make Sailfish exclusive - they invite others to participate in its development and plan to make it as open as possible as far as I understand.

flotron 2013-02-26 14:54

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
and what is silica components?

pycage 2013-02-26 14:57

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flotron (Post 1325403)
and what is silica components?

That is the UI components that can be used by apps to be in line with the Sailfish look&feel.

nokiabot 2013-03-22 07:58

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quite imformative post so bump:)

FotixChiang 2013-05-20 15:42

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1325248)
To put it shortly:

* There was Meego (a joined project by Intel and Nokia) which merged Moblin and Maemo projects. It included several subcategories targeted for different form factors (Meego tablet, Meego handset and etc.).

* Nokia deserted the project after MS paid them a couple of billions. Intel deserted shortly afterwards.

* Several Meego developers forked the project in order to preserve the accumulated effort and to continue it further. The fork was only of the part of the original project, not of the whole since Meego was quite big and had parts which started getting obsolete (like netbook). This fork consisted of two parts - Mer (MEego Relaunched) which included most core aspects of Meego, and Nemo, which forked the Meego handset (that previous effort was called Meego CE). Nemo uses Mer as a core architecturally.

Mer positions itself as a distribution for vendors who create their mobile oriented OSes (and beyond). Sailfish was designed by engineers who left Nokia (after Nokia desertion). It uses Mer as a core as well, and also uses various Nemo middleware components.

I.e. Sailfish and Nemo are "vendors" of Mer. Mer is a fork of the part of original Meego project. (Also don't confuse Meego with Harmattan which was developed by Nokia, and branded as Meego while not being Meego strictly speaking).

thx a lot. but where could I find the wiki about it?i want to learn more.

chemist 2013-05-23 13:27

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Mer does not read MEego Relaunched... it is much older than MeeGo or Harmattan but was revived about that time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mer_%28operating_system%29

http://merproject.org/

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page

shmerl 2013-05-23 16:30

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chemist (Post 1346242)
Mer does not read MEego Relaunched... it is much older than MeeGo or Harmattan but was revived about that time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mer_%28operating_system%29

http://merproject.org/

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page

It does read MEego Relaunched (or MEego Reconstructed). Orignally though the project was MaEmo Relaunched, but eventually started to mean MEego Relaunched, after the work switched to Meego code. See the announcement of Stskeeps about it:

http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...er/484215.html

zappAtom 2013-05-24 07:55

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Is the NEMO project still alive or rather dead since there is now Sailfish? I always loved to see the progress videos but recently haven't seen or heard anything any longer

mikecomputing 2013-05-24 18:56

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zappAtom (Post 1346460)
Is the NEMO project still alive or rather dead since there is now Sailfish? I always loved to see the progress videos but recently haven't seen or heard anything any longer

Its alive and kicking.

Some stuff is actually used/contributed by jolla employed.

https://github.com/nemomobile

nokiabot 2013-05-24 19:19

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Ya mike only gps isint fixed yet hope someone takes care or effort on the drivers:)

MartinK 2013-05-24 19:25

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
I found this very informative diagram on Github:
http://www.modrana.org/misc/tizen-history.png
I think it illustrates the Mer, MeeGo & Nemo relation quite nicely. :)

nokiabot 2013-05-24 19:31

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Lol martink add that to modrana:p

MartinK 2013-05-24 22:02

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1346589)
Lol martink add that to modrana:p

You mean a mobile Linux distribution heritage layer ? :)

shmerl 2013-05-26 02:13

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Great find MartinK!

jjaone 2013-05-26 02:57

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1346588)
I found this very informative diagram on Github:
http://www.modrana.org/misc/tizen-history.png
I think it illustrates the Mer, MeeGo & Nemo relation quite nicely. :)

Nice "concept map" about Linux et.al. as a mobile platform, thanks!

Roth 2013-06-14 03:16

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
That's a cool timeline. The only things missing that I want to see are Android OS, and Firefox OS. The other ones (iOS, Windows Phone, RIM) can be added too for further comparison.

Wikiwide 2013-06-14 04:35

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
You might need to add Intel's Obsidian into Tizen diagram soon. It's... unusual interface.
Best wishes.

norayr 2013-06-21 12:04

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
hmmm, but according to this maemo5 code was used in MeeGo and in the same time no part of MeeGo Harmattan code is used in the joint MeeGo project.

shmerl 2013-06-21 13:31

Re: What is MER, NEMO and what is the relation with Meego?
 
This sounds right, since Maemo 5 was joined with Mobiln to become Meego, while Maemo 6 became Harmattan, which was not used in the Meego project.


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