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regulus 2013-03-06 14:44

N9 for a N900 user
 
I've been contemplating buying a used N9 phone. How does this device compare to a N900 in terms of tweakability and apps availability? Is it also a full-blown Linux machine, or is it more closed, like iPhone? I see it doesn't support additional storage cards. Are there any other drawback that a N900 user couldn't cope with?

lorenzo 2013-03-06 15:14

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
i have a N900 and few months ago i bought a N9 16GB too
there are some lacks (memory card, usb otg, few memory) but i'm happy to own this phone, there are more apps and i fall in love with swipe!! the multitasking is good
but nokia doesn't give support anymore so maybe it's better to wait jolla and ubuntu phones

regulus 2013-03-06 15:28

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
Thanks for your reply. I assume there is also no such thing as a community SSU for N9? :)

It'll probably take a while before a suitable Jolla or Ubuntu gadget is out (the second version at least; in my experience, the first product in line is always a buggy proof of concept ;) ).

I see second-hand N9 are relatively cheap, though. Well, another one I'm looking into is Lumia 920. Still checking the reviews; for now I can say the muscles I gained by holding a N900 would come in handy for Lumia 920. :D

n0x 2013-03-06 21:38

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
a tl;dr would be it isn't as open as N900, especially the UI. There is Easy Debian on it and multiboot, but that's about the good stuff..

That is of course, not discounting QTweak, some overclocking, the present CLI, Unrestricted System UI, and other tweaks..It does not lack apps (like 2000+ so far?), just not as many as the N900 than you might expect (I see more technical stuff there).

If you are too accustomed to tweaking the N900, I'm not sure whether it would be frustration or a breath of fresh air that some things cannot be tweaked (or at least lack documentation for it)

But it is Meego Harmattan - a full blown (?) Linux smartphone OS :)

edit: I think there is no CSSU or something similar, for the N9.

regulus 2013-03-07 14:58

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
And a few more specific questions...
-Does it support automatic & seamless recording of all calls?
-Can you take photos without the annoying fake-shutter sound?
-Does it have a SSH server so you can have a SSH session open to it, as well as transfer files to/from it wirelessly using WinSCP?

thedead1440 2013-03-07 15:01

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
regulus,

a) Yes, Call Recorder does it

b) Yes put phone to silent mode

c) Of course :p

regulus 2013-03-07 15:31

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
Cool. :) And when I connect it to USB, does it also offer the option of "PC Suite mode" and "Mass storage mode"?

khan.orak 2013-03-07 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by regulus (Post 1327479)
Cool. And when I connect it to USB, does it also offer the option of "PC Suite mode" and "Mass storage mode"?

absolutely, without any problem.

juiceme 2013-03-07 18:39

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
What I find easiest, I have my device automatically connect to my wlan when @home, so I just ssh to it from my laptop any time I like to. I usually transfer any data to/from the device with sftp.

This way I don't need to care where it is, it may be in the pocket of my jacket by the door or lying on the kitchen table... :D

Estel 2013-03-07 19:04

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by regulus (Post 1327479)
Cool. :) And when I connect it to USB, does it also offer the option of "PC Suite mode" and "Mass storage mode"?

Although, doesn't think about hostmode. Generally, expect it to be a good smartphone, but much less real mobile computer (as opposed to N900). It depends on what you expect - I would say most dedicated N900 users could feel disappointed, but your mileage may wary.

/Estel

regulus 2013-03-07 21:14

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1327511)
Although, doesn't think about hostmode. Generally, expect it to be a good smartphone, but much less real mobile computer (as opposed to N900). It depends on what you expect - I would say most dedicated N900 users could feel disappointed, but your mileage may wary.

I am aware it's less of a "mobile computer" than N900 (I'm keeping this one for now, or for ever, anyway :) ). I was hoping to keep some of the good stuff already discussed above, and gain a better camera and faster browsing & documents/photos manipulation (in short -- more speed and less bugs with every day tasks). Too much to expect from it? And how's the battery, BTW?

(As an alternative, I was also looking into the previous iPhone 4(S), but I'm not too comfortable with the limitations of obscuring the file system by design, although I'm quite happy with my iPad. I don't really like Android, so eventually I'll probably land on either Sailfish or Windows Phone. :rolleyes: )

regulus 2013-03-10 12:49

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
How much storage for apps and user files is actually available on a 16 GB model?

thedead1440 2013-03-10 12:52

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by regulus (Post 1328088)
How much storage for apps and user files is actually available on a 16 GB model?

Its pretty simple for both 16&64GB:

rootfs - 4GB
userfs - 2GB
emmc - balance


My advice to you is to get the 64GB variant. 16GB really is a limiting factor ;)

regulus 2013-03-10 13:25

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
Yikes, that's bad. Yeah, the 16 GB has been holding me back (and I was specifically looking for a cyan colored model, which I hear isn't available for 64 GB)...

thedead1440 2013-03-10 14:27

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by regulus (Post 1328100)
Yikes, that's bad. Yeah, the 16 GB has been holding me back (and I was specifically looking for a cyan colored model, which I hear isn't available for 64 GB)...

64GB is only available in black and white (thank you Elop). You can change the housing afterwards though...

ch88xy 2013-03-10 16:07

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
N900 has been my primary phone for 2 years. Last week I broke down and bought a white 64gb N9. It does have faster processor and more RAM; I also like its integrated mail/message feature. But I must say that in general I am disappointed. N900 just feels more solid overall. If not for its huge storage capacity and the fact that I can use it as an offline GPS when traveling (downloaded most of Nokia maps just now), I would probably sell my new N9. In short, if I can keep only one phone, it would be N900.

pagis 2013-03-16 07:50

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
The 16GB one is rather limiting in space, however, regarding navigation and maps n9 is better since it can cache the latest Nokia maps and navigation SW is alot better than the native n900 app. Plus the fact that n9 hw is faster.

XiliX 2013-03-16 10:04

Re: N9 for a N900 user
 
I switched from a N900 to a N9 about a year ago, and still dont regret it. Most features i gained on my N900 by tweaking are allready present in the standard N9 software. (headphone deamon, hotspot, a fast gui. etc.)

I stayed in userland with my N9, and i am really happy with it.
Yes, the memory limitation is a bit of a downside, but youll get used to it; I used to have my entire music collection on my N900, but never used most of that..


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