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vbl 2013-03-12 19:37

Upcoming Nokia Flagship?
 
anyone know about Nokia upcoming devices. Im interest to purchase another Nokia Power device. Im a Nokia's Fan since i was a child :)

myname24 2013-03-12 20:41

Re: Upcoming Nokia Flagship?
 
even if someone know he won't tell you anything . But some prediction like a slim flagship nokia 9xx series and 808 pureview in form of windows phone .

mikecomputing 2013-03-12 22:15

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ROTFL! This forum is not about Nokia. Especially not after February 2011 so you better ask about Nokia in a Nokia fanbusoyish forum instead, because most of use here don't like Nokia cause of:

* They kicked alot of good competent Linux people
* They dumped Meego
* They dumped Qt
* They hired a CEO that will go to history as the most stupid CEO at Nokia.

well list goes on...

Zoxir 2013-03-12 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1328651)
ROTFL! This forum is not about Nokia. Especially not after February 2011 so you better ask about Nokia in a Nokia fanbusoyish forum instead, because most of use here don't like Nokia cause of:

* They kicked alot of good competent Linux people
* They dumped Meego
* They dumped Qt
* They hired a CEO that will go to history as the most stupid CEO at Nokia.

well list goes on...

One question, how many forums are there that are discuss about Nokia I thought there aren't any left?

And a correction Most stupid CEO period.

bandora 2013-03-12 22:59

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You can talk about Nokia stuff at http://discussions.nokia.com

Hacker 2013-03-13 00:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vbl (Post 1328618)
anyone know about Nokia upcoming devices. Im interest to purchase another Nokia Power device. Im a Nokia's Fan since i was a child :)

All of the previous responses are 100% true, but to answer your question, the latest rumors about flagship Nokia phones are that there will be one now called the Nokia Catwalk, which is supposed to be made of aluminum for a lighter, premium build quality. Also, there is supposed to be another phone now called the Nokia EOS, which is supposed to be a Lumia-running phone with an excellent camera, perhaps the 41 mega pixel sensor used for the Nokia 808.

On this forum, most would agree that the next true Nokia flagship will come from the company Jolla, the Nokia spin off company formed largely from the ex-Nokians who produced the Nokia N9 and N950. Jolla has a phone due for release later this year running its new Sailfish OS, which you can search for on this forum.

thedead1440 2013-03-13 02:30

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This forum is now Community-led; feel free to discuss whatever in the sub-forums as long as it doesn't break the forum's rules.

Even though people hate Nokia it doesn't mean people can't discuss about it or discuss upcoming product launches etc

You'll be surprised to find quite a number of people who don't hate Nokia but just indifferent to them so ignore advice of people who hate blindly...

efion 2013-03-13 03:46

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Out of topic:

I don't understand why people hate Nokia that much...
Nokia is profit-oriented company, not a public service-oriented company, lucky you Nokia release the notorious Nokia N9, if not, we can't even have a toy to play...Is it Samsung? Motorola? LG? or else did?

In the first, i was hate too, not to Nokia, but to Elop with his burning platform memo, but then realize; "hey, you're not the money holder, sit back, and watch the show, you already had one of the great device of all time, enjoy it!".

I love my N9, and whoever for release it....

So, let this thread continues... :)

ajalkane 2013-03-13 04:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vbl (Post 1328618)
Im interest to purchase another Nokia Power device.

Me too! Unfortunately Nokia has been concentrating on windows phones recently, not power phones. I guess time to email Elop and ask when's the next MeeGo device comes out :-)

cr0c0 2013-03-13 07:37

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Why do you care what Nokia will release? And why do you have such a brand loyalty? You do not owe anything to any corporation, and that goes both ways. Pick whatever device best suits your needs when you need it, regardless of the logo on the casing.

I owned phones or PDAs made by Sony, Sony Ericsson, Nokia, HTC and Samsung. I owned laptops made by every single manufacturer out there, including but not limited to IBM, Lenovo, Dell, HP, Apple, Toshiba, Asus, Acer, Sager and Panasonic.

To take it further, I owned cars made by Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, WV, and Ford, and I owned motorcycles made by Yamaha and Suzuki.

Don't be a brand slave.

vbl 2013-03-13 08:44

Hacker & thedead1440: thank you guys, you guys show me some ideas about upcoming devices. I already owned a White Nokia N9, and i love it. Hope Nokia or Jolla team will develop a next Power Nokia Device ;)

HELLASISGREECE 2013-03-13 09:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cr0c0 (Post 1328713)
Why do you care what Nokia will release? And why do you have such a brand loyalty? You do not owe anything to any corporation, and that goes both ways. Pick whatever device best suits your needs when you need it, regardless of the logo on the casing.

I owned phones or PDAs made by Sony, Sony Ericsson, Nokia, HTC and Samsung. I owned laptops made by every single manufacturer out there, including but not limited to IBM, Lenovo, Dell, HP, Apple, Toshiba, Asus, Acer, Sager and Panasonic.

To take it further, I owned cars made by Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, WV, and Ford, and I owned motorcycles made by Yamaha and Suzuki.

Don't be a brand slave.

We care about Nokia because of their masterpieces of the past (distant and recent).

ie: the 7110, 7650, 6600, N91, N93, E90, N95, N810, N900, N8, N9, 808PV and many more gems. Both tech gadgets and proper phones. Awesome call and reception quality, great cameras and audio output.

Nokia produced some great hw with "character" and some fantastic sw (S90, S^3, Maemo 5, Meego H. 1,2)

we love this company and hope it will get back on its feet.

ps: The beta-test has to stop my dear Nokia. Get your **** together and amaze us once again. Like you did in fall 2006 and in June of 2011.

efion 2013-03-13 09:48

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Back to topic

Still in rumour mill....and definitely still on Windows Phone, Lumia 928 for Verizon next month, an enhanced hardware and facelift version of Lumia 920
Don't know whether this is EOS or Catwalk

Kangal 2013-03-13 10:36

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Instead of making the N9, Nokia should've simply sold the Samsung Galaxy S (2010) phone.

They could've saved a lot of time and money not doing the hardware.
They should've just focused on the software.

In fact, if the MeeGo (not Harmattan/Maemo6) was completed and shipping by Dec 2010... Nokia would've become a high profit company.

Android and iOS really took off with the SGS and iPhone 4.
A decent competitor then would've created a healthy third wheel.

In fact, if WP8 was released initially (WP7 were beta tests) it would've gained a lot more traction, especially on devices like the HD7 and Arrive.

chemist 2013-03-13 10:47

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Moved to Competitors!

This website officially jumped ship and so did all developers for our beloved devices. Although Nokia Flagships will be $soft, we might see no more Nokia in about two years apart of carrier supplies.

Larswad 2013-03-13 12:16

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@HELLASISGREECE:
Look, the major part of the guys you are talking about who made all of these fantastic devices was booted from Nokia and are now Jolla.
Nokia went insane, you know that! Or to be more correct, their execs went insane and sunk the company when they had the biggest opportunity EVER with MeeGo and the N9 being praised to the skies from both the press and customers.
Its the worst numbskull move I have ever heard about.
Are you loyal to THEM? Maan.

taviman 2013-03-13 12:43

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let the man keep his choices. He is not trying to convince you otherwise.
I love my Nokia.

tissot 2013-03-13 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vbl (Post 1328618)
anyone know about Nokia upcoming devices. Im interest to purchase another Nokia Power device. Im a Nokia's Fan since i was a child :)

So far it looks like Catwalk is the thin, aluminium Lumia that will be released somewhere in summer.
EOS is the flagship high megapixel smartphone that will likely be out with the next big Windows Phone update somewhere around Nokia World (~September).
I'm looking at getting Catwalk to replace my Lumia 920, if we will see the phone in the next couple of months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by efion (Post 1328735)
Back to topic

Still in rumour mill....and definitely still on Windows Phone, Lumia 928 for Verizon next month, an enhanced hardware and facelift version of Lumia 920
Don't know whether this is EOS or Catwalk

Lumia 928 is a separate device that has already passed FCC. It carries Verizon bands. It looks to be Verizon's Lumia 920 variant that possibly will introduce Nokia's new aluminium design language.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larswad (Post 1328756)
@HELLASISGREECE:
Look, the major part of the guys you are talking about who made all of these fantastic devices was booted from Nokia and are now Jolla.
Nokia went insane, you know that! Or to be more correct, their execs went insane and sunk the company when they had the biggest opportunity EVER with MeeGo and the N9 being praised to the skies from both the press and customers.
Its the worst numbskull move I have ever heard about.
Are you loyal to THEM? Maan.


Really, very little from Nokia went to Jolla. Nokia today has 97 000 people (was 115 000). Jolla has around 40 people that where mostly working on software on Maemo/MeeGo.
Though the Jolla guys certainly have been working on MeeGo and Maemo looking a the delays we have already seen. Hopefully they get their **** together and we see half ok hardware this year.

nonikhanna 2013-03-13 13:06

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Im sorry for going a bit off topic, but if u guys remember back in feb 11 announcement. Elop was talking about the 3 pillars. the next billion, ecosystem, and future distruptions. What exactly is the future distruptions. They have killed almost all future OS's within Nokia. They said that they would be releasing 1 meego phone per year and meego was the way forward in the long term. what happened to that?

thedead1440 2013-03-13 13:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nonikhanna (Post 1328764)
They said that they would be releasing 1 meego phone per year and meego was the way forward in the long term. what happened to that?

:confused: Elop was asked what would happen to the MeeGo phone on 11/02 and he replied one handset would be released by the end of that year. Nobody remembers mentions of one handset per year so probably you are missing out something ;)

tissot 2013-03-13 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nonikhanna (Post 1328764)
Im sorry for going a bit off topic, but if u guys remember back in feb 11 announcement. Elop was talking about the 3 pillars. the next billion, ecosystem, and future distruptions. What exactly is the future distruptions. They have killed almost all future OS's within Nokia. They said that they would be releasing 1 meego phone per year and meego was the way forward in the long term. what happened to that?

Future distributions were mentioned on their last Q4 2012 strategy briefing. Don't really remember that 1 MeeGo phone per year. Don't need much to realize there naturally wont be MeeGo phones ever from Nokia.

Nokia needs its own OS for things like the kinect concept and graphene phone that Nokia has been aiming for 5 years now. They just received 1.4 billion dollar grant to develop graphene. Or Nokia's glass project. Harmattan and what learned there will no doubt be used.

Don't expect to hear anything in that front anywhere soon or get excited, but it's simply something Nokia needs... for its future distruptions. Windows Phone and 808 PV being perfect example of the limitations Nokia can't do without its own OS, not to talk about Nokia glass or kinect.

NokiaFanatic 2013-03-13 13:35

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Future disruptions won't have anything to do with Meego or Symbian.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/...-stephen-elop/
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Elop
The third pillar of our strategy is something called “future disruptions.” It’s about what’s the next step in things like materials, photography, battery technology — the things that we’re working on in order to drive the next disruptions.


Larswad 2013-03-13 13:45

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Quote:

Really, very little from Nokia went to Jolla. Nokia today has 97 000 people (was 115 000). Jolla has around 40 people that where mostly working on software on Maemo/MeeGo.
Though the Jolla guys certainly have been working on MeeGo and Maemo looking a the delays we have already seen. Hopefully they get their **** together and we see half ok hardware this year.
I should make it clear: I WAS referring to the people who had done the major work in the Maemo/MeeGo devices, that's what I meant was the fantastic devices.

And about Jolla: What delays are you referring to? So far I think they have shown fantastic speed in their progress. Going from almost nothing (except from their professional expertise) and already have a working release of their SDK with so much already completed in the OS itself. I'd rather say its incredibly fast and impressive work from these guys.
Don't forget that Jolla was hardly even announced less than a year ago.

Regardless, Nokias insanity remains.

efion 2013-03-13 14:11

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AFAIK, the OP was questioning about what the next Nokia Power Device, not about some cases that already buried two years ago.
Look forward guys...

Hacker 2013-03-13 16:18

We've already discussed the future relating to Nokia EOS, Catwalk, and Jolla SailfishOS, but what of the more distant future?

Nokia has recently admitted in its stock filings that there is a threat to Nokia's business that M$ may release a Surface phone or that M$ may reduce or eliminate its support of Windows Phone OS, as it has with its earlier attempts in mobile, like Kin and Windows Mobile.

So maybe next year with no Elop, we will start to see some innovation from Nokia that will be something other than Lumias and budget devices . . .

waldo 2013-03-13 16:33

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I do typically lean nokia for 3 reasons, camera, audio, build quality.

No other phone maker has yet to match the n8's camera on a phone
I've owned and had lots of friends with other phones and nokias both internal and external has some of the best sound.
I never have to put a case on a nokia phone

That being said I have owned htc and samsung phones, always letting me down in at least sound and camera, neither broke on me

I almost forgot multitasking, I know this is OS, but only symbian, maemo and meego properly multitask. My android phone multitasking is a joke in comparison.

mikecomputing 2013-03-13 19:42

Re: Upcoming Nokia Flagship?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efion (Post 1328692)
Out of topic:

I don't understand why people hate Nokia that much...
Nokia is profit-oriented company, not a public service-oriented company, lucky you Nokia release the notorious Nokia N9, if not, we can't even have a toy to play...Is it Samsung? Motorola? LG? or else did?

In the first, i was hate too, not to Nokia, but to Elop with his burning platform memo, but then realize; "hey, you're not the money holder, sit back, and watch the show, you already had one of the great device of all time, enjoy it!".

I love my N9, and whoever for release it....

So, let this thread continues... :)

Profit????? Nokias has only got down down doooown since they got in bed with MS.

mscion 2013-03-13 19:50

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I do not see anything that Nokia makes with MS as a Flagship but more so as a bottom dweller...

vbl 2013-03-14 01:16

Beautiful Design + Multi Tasks = NOKIA RULES =)

efion 2013-03-14 01:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1328845)
Profit????? Nokias has only got down down doooown since they got in bed with MS.

I'm not here to defend and stand behind Nokia, but ALAS Elop is behind the steering wheel, the comissioner board and all the stakeholders still trust Nokia on him to make profit, someday.
You may assume that us; the customers is also a part of the stakeholders, right, but no one in this world can satisify every single man's dreams on this planet.

Believe me, WP8 UI is nothing compare to Harmattan UI or even the secretly develop jawbreaking UI on "Nokia Air". Nokia is taking its risk to pick WP, and i know it's a heartbreaker to all Nokia lovers, but we all have choices, take it or leave it.

flotron 2013-03-14 02:40

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Marketing rules today, no matter what is good or bad

ranbaxy 2013-06-16 09:25

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Alleged metallic Nokia EOS body teased again

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....-eos-metal.jpg

Quote:

That baffling metallic Nokia EOS chassis we saw the other day? It's back, but this time the same leakster from Sina Weibo managed to get a shot of at least 12 of them, meaning the device has likely reached some sort of production stage. In another photo, we can see the same button arrangement -- presumably volume, power and camera -- that's already present on the current Lumia range. The strange thing is we've yet to see a cover plate that will match this seemingly smaller camera opening, but the square shape does make us wonder whether this will fit Pelican Imaging's 16-lens array camera. After all, Nokia did announce its investment in this plenoptic camera technology. Hopefully Elop will personally explain what's going on at his event on July 11th -- maybe with both this and the plastic EOS in his hands.

mikecomputing 2013-06-16 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ranbaxy (Post 1352406)
Alleged metallic Nokia EOS body teased again

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....-eos-metal.jpg

Does it run sailfishOS?

Answer: No

Garp 2013-06-16 10:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cr0c0 (Post 1328713)
Why do you care what Nokia will release? And why do you have such a brand loyalty? You do not owe anything to any corporation, and that goes both ways. Pick whatever device best suits your needs when you need it, regardless of the logo on the casing.

I owned phones or PDAs made by Sony, Sony Ericsson, Nokia, HTC and Samsung. I owned laptops made by every single manufacturer out there, including but not limited to IBM, Lenovo, Dell, HP, Apple, Toshiba, Asus, Acer, Sager and Panasonic.

To take it further, I owned cars made by Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, WV, and Ford, and I owned motorcycles made by Yamaha and Suzuki.

Don't be a brand slave.

You are quite right but in my opinion the point is not to be a slave or not but the clear business question to deliver some goods to people on the market and make a pair of updates and then close the business for that 'torso' product as N9 is - like it or not - and say sorry customer guys and girls but you are left alone with our fine but half made product and you have to help yourselves in the future bye, bye!
That's the Nokia unserious business handling of their customers!:mad:

maverick788us 2013-06-26 08:08

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Has microsoft made an oath to stay behind other devices? Their support for multi-core and 720P was late almost an year behind android.

If EOS has quad core that is a welcome move. But why WP doesn't have support for 1080P? 1080P is the new standard for high end android smartphones and I've read somewhere that Microsoft doesn't have any plan to support 1080P.

stickymick 2013-06-26 08:34

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First off. I thought Windows and Pureview were incompatible. (Nokia's statement, not mine). So they've probably created another tech that's compatible with Windows and scrapped the 808 so they could use it's name for their Winphones.

Secondly. I think they are now doing a Samsung. Just living off hardware and materials. A "High End" £500 device that runs the self same O/S as a sub £200 device?

NokiaFanatic 2013-06-26 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1354770)
First off. I thought Windows and Pureview were incompatible. (Nokia's statement, not mine).

It was, last year. The fact they are already suggesting that this has a 41MP camera suggests that those technical limitations have been overcome.

juiceme 2013-06-27 11:12

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"technical limitations" == "MS's unwillingness to provide a driver" :)

geektech 2013-07-12 22:39

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Wp phones all are the same, now days, no flagship phone! The lastest feature on WP phone is a 41mp camera, making obsolete the 920, 928 and 925.

Love my N9 still not obsolete! Not even dead as many people think.


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