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Dave999 2013-03-14 23:01

Samsung Galaxy S4
 
SGS4 announcment!

Live event from NYC. starting NOW. Wake up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sX7_QI#t=1705s

Lets see if samsung lost its magic! :cool:

khan.orak 2013-03-14 23:56

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
meh....

I deem the Smart Scroll feature the only good thing I like in S4.


meh....

khan.orak 2013-03-14 23:58

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Keep adding more carbon to the plastic polymer. :D

#SLogic

ahmadamaj 2013-03-15 00:04

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
plastic and useless features. going to sell 25 million next quarter.

Hacker 2013-03-15 00:15

Looks like any Android users should preorder the HTC One, which is the superior phone IMHO. Supplies of the ONE are already in doubt, and I think that a bunch of people just made up their minds that the S4 is just too close to the S3.

This sameness by Samsung is also good for BB10 devices and, ahem, Jolla's SailfishOS.

waldo 2013-03-15 00:26

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
People said the same thing about the GS3 and that did great, samsung is just in a good spot, they have the mind share, they have the money to toss at advertising, and they sell a ton of phones because of it. The S features are great for adds, not so much for real life.

Sadly its more about marketing and mindshare, than the phone itself

Kangal 2013-03-15 00:58

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Great move by Samsung!

Innovate just enough to be competitive, market the hell out of the rest.
When this time next year comes, they'll be able to add innovations which they purposely kept from this release.

Watch the $$$ pour in. Rinse, repeat.

Kangal 2013-03-15 01:02

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 1329074)
Looks like any Android users should preorder the HTC One, which is the superior phone IMHO. Supplies of the ONE are already in doubt, and I think that a bunch of people just made up their minds that the S4 is just too close to the S3.

This sameness by Samsung is also good for BB10 devices and, ahem, Jolla's SailfishOS.

If I was in the market, I would get The One instead.
But it has to have an unlocked bootloader, and just few enough hurdles so it could be tinkered with.

Ofcourse, the loss of the microSD and removable battery will be a big shift in my eyes. As well as the MultiWindow feature I've come to rely upon.

Oh, who am I kidding... another failure from HTC, lame attempt with the S4, I'll be clinging on to the NOTE.

Hacker 2013-03-15 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1329079)
If I was in the market, I would get The One instead.
But it has to have an unlocked bootloader, and just few enough hurdles so it could be tinkered with.

Ofcourse, the loss of the microSD and removable battery will be a big shift in my eyes. As well as the MultiWindow feature I've come to rely upon.

Oh, who am I kidding... another failure from HTC, lame attempt with the S4, I'll be clinging on to the NOTE.

Well, there is a version of the ONE that has an unlocked bootloader, so please tell me there'd be hope of putting maemo, Harmattan, or Sailfish on it.

I feel so uninspired by the S4's design, though some of the gimmicks seem okay.

I guess it's lucky I still am happy with the N9, though I'll take a long look at the One when it hits stores.

gkhnkrts7 2013-03-15 01:31

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
What a fantastic phone from Samsung. But how much is it, that's the question for me :D

flotron 2013-03-15 01:52

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gkhnkrts7 (Post 1329082)
What a fantastic phone from Samsung. But how much is it, that's the question for me :D

Fantastic?? why? is the same as S3 but with more ghz (as expected) and better display.

Really people? don't you see that they are playing with your minds and marketing?

The massive marketing brainwash that i see today exceeds me

tirtawn 2013-03-15 04:59

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flotron (Post 1329083)
Fantastic?? why? is the same as S3 but with more ghz (as expected) and better display.

Really people? don't you see that they are playing with your minds and marketing?

The massive marketing brainwash that i see today exceeds me

They did do the brainwash but imagine if N9 or N900 can be installed in that new phone (with the amazing display and hardware), I am sure most of the maemo/meego users will have a different tune :-).

waldo 2013-03-15 05:05

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tirtawn (Post 1329091)
They did do the brainwash but imagine if N9 or N900 can be installed in that new phone (with the amazing display and hardware), I am sure most of the maemo/meego users will have a different tune :-).

I would pay an insane amount of money to have meego on those specs

Kangal 2013-03-15 06:19

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
I would pay an insane amount of money to craft my own phone. The OS doesn't even matter it could just be Android (4.22 PAC ROM) just as long as the internals aren't protected and source code/drivers available.

An9 2013-03-15 07:35

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
There is one app for meego to interact with few apps like music player or so, by moving hand left or right, and one other app in symbian to scroll stuff on screen up&down just by pushing the phone back or forward, so this is not something new on samsung s4!
Sorry i can't remember the names of this apps anymore.

thedead1440 2013-03-15 07:42

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
An9,

MyMoves... ;)

bibek 2013-03-15 08:08

No. It's AirUI. Always comes handy in dropping the jaws of random friends ;)

There's also a separate plugin so that you can use the gesture in all apps.

thedead1440 2013-03-15 08:15

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bibek (Post 1329114)
No. It's AirUI. Always comes handy in dropping the jaws of random friends ;)

There's also a separate plugin so that you can use the gesture in all apps.

Ah yes AirUI; used it a few times previously to tease people. I thought he was referring to MyMoves but it was my reading that failed me ;)

zlatokosi 2013-03-15 08:31

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Anyone notice the IR transmitter on the S4, in 2013?

I think it's a good move, but lot's of people will have to eat their words now (IR in 2011? nahhh, who needs that?)

Leinad 2013-03-15 08:45

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zlatokosi (Post 1329125)
Anyone notice the IR transmitter on the S4, in 2013?

I think it's a good move, but lot's of people will have to eat their words now (IR in 2011? nahhh, who needs that?)

Remote Control is back :)
This was possible on most Symbian phones 10 years ago and i loved it... when your were sitting in a bar and the music was bad, you could just change the radio station with your phone :)
Hope, Jolla remembers this kind of good old stuff...

gkhnkrts7 2013-03-15 08:50

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flotron (Post 1329083)
Fantastic?? why? is the same as S3 but with more ghz (as expected) and better display.

Really people? don't you see that they are playing with your minds and marketing?

The massive marketing brainwash that i see today exceeds me

what would U expected ? Samsung S4 with 5gb ram or 3.50ghz processor.. Thatms a mobile phone. So they develope their product as soon as rapid. Iphone 5 is more than 2500 tl (1000€) in Turkey, but it doesn't have a goodworking bluetooth . So of course it will be the same with S3 but a bit better than it ;)

Akkumaru 2013-03-15 09:56

I wonder if all of the sudden peeps be like 'IR so cool!' Heh, that's be funny. ;)

raaj13 2013-03-15 13:43

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
is it realy going to use powerVR sgx544 tricore gpu?

Thorvic777 2013-03-15 14:38

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
http://www.xatakandroid.com/moviles-...oid-de-samsung

Artyom 2013-03-15 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkhnkrts7 (Post 1329127)
what would U expected ? Samsung S4 with 5gb ram or 3.50ghz processor.. Thatms a mobile phone. So they develope their product as soon as rapid. Iphone 5 is more than 2500 tl (1000€) in Turkey, but it doesn't have a goodworking bluetooth . So of course it will be the same with S3 but a bit better than it

no he is expecting a phone with innovation just like most of the people around here. Putting bigger, higher resolution screens and more cores are not considered as innovation but may work with marketing as i can see that it's working for you.
iphone is expensive because of the high tax rates and local vendors being a ****. Still, its better than any galaxy because of the fact that ios is a much more smooth and fast experience than android.

the phone uses tripple core sgx544 by the way.

thedead1440 2013-03-15 16:46

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artyom (Post 1329203)
Still, its better than any galaxy because of the fact that ios is a much more smooth and fast experience than android.

Yeah right... :rolleyes:

Artyom 2013-03-15 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1329210)
Yeah right...

And how would you oppose that? Can you explain please? It isn't smooth and fast?
and please do answer my question. i want to learn more. :)

AMD 2013-03-15 18:54

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
1 word for all of this:
Lame.

AMD 2013-03-15 18:57

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Artyom, I agree with thedead.. Please tell me in 10 ways how it is better than any Android device..

HELLASISGREECE 2013-03-15 19:12

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Don't care about Samsung Galaxies.
I just swipe them away.

Artyom 2013-03-15 19:28

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD (Post 1329237)
Artyom, I agree with thedead.. Please tell me in 10 ways how it is better than any Android device..

yes the iphone is lame but in which aspects? if it is the os being closed you can jailbreak and make it much more configurable in terms of ui, features, personalization etc.

I didn't said that iphone is completely better. i said that ios is much more smooth and fast then android and that makes them better in user experience. don't get me wrong, im not an apple fan never been one. im just making comments based on my experience with both operating systems.


by the way it has been told that the device will come to the us with snapdragon 600 chipset. they won't ship the exynos 5 version to the us?

Hacker 2013-03-15 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by bibek (Post 1329114)
No. It's AirUI. Always comes handy in dropping the jaws of random friends

There's also a separate plugin so that you can use the gesture in all apps.

What is the plug in to get AIR UI to work with most other apps?

This is yet another case of Nokia having an idea years ago that was never fully developed but that Samsung puts on a flagship device today.

mohannad 2013-03-15 21:30

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
In my opinion Samsung did a great job with the S4. People keep saying that its a copy of the s3, it has nothing new, samsung is pulling an apple, another cheap plastic phone etc.. to those people i would say - you are wrong.

1) Its not a copy of the s3. it shares the same design principles as the s3 but improves on them. This is not uncommon in the smartphone industry at the moment eg. lumia range, iphones, etc
if you still think the s4 is a copy of the s3, look at the following picture and tell me if you cant tell which is which
http://cdn.ndtv.com/tech/images/GalaxyS4-vs-s3.jpg

2) The s4 does have some cool new tricks that the s3 didnt have. I wont count all the software improvements because those will eventually be available on the s3. But how about the hover functionality? the ability to use the phone with gloves (Nokia was happy that no one else had that)? 5" screen in the same size phone? improved camera? IR transmitter? I wont say that these feature make the s4 a worthy upgrade from the s3, but at the same time I think its wrong to ignore those noteworthy improvements.

3) people keep dissing plastic as if it is no longer worthy of being used in premium products. those same people probably have a plastic case covering their iphone. thats all im going to say about that.

Dave999 2013-03-15 22:10

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Ir was cool before and it is cool today. I HAVE TO SAY Ir is very cool and sexy feature, glad to see it in new devices. .

Kangal 2013-03-16 02:30

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
I didn't know the S4 is actually smaller than the SIII. That is quite a feat, shaving some bezel is something I've been proclaiming for years now!

Comparing the S4 to The One, they're nearly identical/same in size. However, the S4's superior (or equal) in every way except for:
- One has stereo loudspeakers on front (something I also proclaimed for years)
- One has a more premium look and feel to it (another thing I've been crying for years!)

But what do I think?
I think the Samsung should've done the S4 with The One's design, but with a 4.5 inch size. That way its a comfy size for the majority. Heaps heaps more advanced and better than The iPhone (4in is puny!). And it allows Samsung to differentiate enough with the NOTE series, perhaps they can even shave its bezels and make it something like 5.2 inches in screen size.

stickymick 2013-03-16 04:03

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
I swear to god, if these specs don't sound just like a bunch of WOW players williewaving about their system specs, I'll "upgrade" from my N900 to a Nokia 3310.
Who the hell needs 8 cores for a phone?
If this thing hits the shelves at more than £300 it's really gonna show it's true purpose. A huge waste of expense for a lot of reduntant hardware.

thedead1440 2013-03-16 06:01

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Artyom (Post 1329231)
And how would you oppose that? Can you explain please? It isn't smooth and fast?
and please do answer my question. i want to learn more. :)

The Galaxy S3 and Note 2 run enough rings around any iPhone. Heck my GS2 and Note run rings around the i4s in my house.

If just smooth and fast are used as barometers, there is really no difference because after a point you can't see which is faster.

If you speak about jail-breaking an iPhone and rooting and Android device than the Android will always come out tops simply because along with the increased customizations you have larger screens that allow you to do more.

On both my S2 and Note I use multi-window, although it isn't too useful on the S2, its very nice on the Note with the larger screen. The iPad has something similar once you jailbreak it but the iPhone's smaller screen means its pretty useless to do any windowing on it.

The app gap is almost non-existent these days on Android; the last game I remember that made it big and launched on iOS without any Android plans was Temple Run. That too was quite a rare occurrence.

Android has its many flaws too, no doubt about that, but choosing between an Android device and iPhone its always wiser to go for the Android unless the user is really a fanboy or not interested to tinker even a bit with the Android device.

The sales of S3 and Note show that many mass-market users who know not much are going for the larger, more functional and better-looking screens instead of the same old iPhone. Also let's not forget the micro-SD and replaceable batteries ;)

balisingh 2013-03-16 06:16

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacker (Post 1329258)
What is the plug in to get AIR UI to work with most other apps?

This is yet another case of Nokia having an idea years ago that was never fully developed but that Samsung puts on a flagship device today.

Air UI doesnt even work!

Hacker 2013-03-16 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by balisingh (Post 1329316)
Air UI doesnt even work!

Yes it does, but out of the box, it only works on some native apps (to scroll, etc.). But reportedly there is a plug in that widens its functionality to more apps. I'd like to hear more about the plug in.

As for the GS4, it'll sell well, no doubt. It's highly functional and has a large fan base and impressive marketing support. My primary problem is the design and lack of premium build materials. The HTC impresses me more on these fronts and seems to offer the specs and performance I'd be looking for.

And I think that there is still an app gap that favors iOS over Android. It is in the quality of the apps, since the numbers of apps are so high as not to matter. My GF has an Android and pointed this out to me and it is true--even the same title is often slightly better on iOS. I'll likely get an Android, but if there were an HTC One-like device running jailbroken iOS, who knows?

pagis 2013-03-16 08:40

Re: Samsung Galaxy S4
 
Hw is always improving, I do like the ir port come back, shame n9 dropped it, but I cannot understand 1080 HD display on 5" screen, even on 720 HD pixel density was more than human eye can see, what improvement 440+ pixel density will bring?


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