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railroadmaster 2013-04-08 19:24

My Dream Device
 
Form Factor: Folding device with keyboard similar to the Viliv N5 or a slider form factor
Screen: 5.5" 1080p display with stylus support
OS: multiboots Android, Ubuntu, Tizen, MER, Firefox OS, and Sailfish
Processor: Dual Core Arm Cortex a-53 or better
Ram: 2gb or better
Storage: 128gb plus microsd expansion
A device like this probably won't exist for a while and probably not with the form factor I want either. One can dream though

ammyt 2013-04-08 19:49

Re: My Dream Device
 
Ok?

ten chars

HELLASISGREECE 2013-04-08 19:59

Re: My Dream Device
 
Untill that day, you can find yourself a N900.

Wikiwide 2013-04-09 05:06

Re: My Dream Device
 
I am too conservative for a multiboot. I would rather have one operating system, and tweak it, until it works-for-me. Right now, Fremantle is the best.
Yes, stylus is a must. Though I would prefer the screen to be scratch-resistant (akin to wrist-watch) and more sensitive to pressure. Contradiction, isn't it?
Screen is fine as it is. Though, I would not be opposed if it was high-resolution, like retina. But then, I would prefer to somehow have two screens: one low-resolution, monochromatic, for the graphical user interface; and another high-resolution, high-color-depth for photographs, camera, movie recording, editing and watching, drawing. This way, you can check time, send SMS, make calls without using as much electricity. I know, I am a grumbler, but if you have to spend a week with your phone without running out of charge, such an option would be handy.
Processor: fine as it is. RAM: 2GB, not more. Storage: 32 GB+option to expand it.
Form factor: preferably slider, but it has to withstand mountain hiking, sea sand, sharp stones, lake water. Overall, it must be more difficult to squash than a brick. Yes, I am paranoid. And extremely attached.
Additions:
magnetometer (compass, and metal finder - if you lost a needle or a tiny screw),
radio transceiver (FM radio, Bluetooth, analog television [imagine how handy it would be in these times, when a lot of people have old analog TV sets, and many TV channels have switched to digital broadcasting; just TV-broadcast a movie from your phone, and you can watch it on any analog-TV display within ten meters]; accepting external antenna for either transmitting or receiving),
TV-out cable (just in case you wish to show your photographs to many people at once),
barometer (weather, or geographical height above the sea level),
Wi-Fi (all its many variations),
microphone with noise-cancelling ability (I am quite tired of observing people yelling into their mobile phones),
speakers and microphone which allow constructing echo-hologram (even if it requires about a minute of CPU-intensive number crunching),
palm-sized paper printer (handy for visiting cards and QR codes)...
[Edit]Camera. Must not forget camera. With flash (maybe, ring of light around the camera). Maybe, capable of moving around, for better panoramas. Maybe, capable of cancelling out the movements of the vehicle. Maybe, higher resolution.
And notification LED.
And both camera and screen must have dynamic range close to than of a human eye, probably slightly higher; about 13-14. Then you will not have to capture multiple standard photographs to get an HDR photograph.[/Edit]
Best wishes.
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Per aspera ad astra...

biketool 2013-04-09 08:06

Re: My Dream Device
 
I am with wikiwide except that I think printing should be a dongle, QR code works for v-card trades between smartphone users.
Also I look forward to when highter power LED projectors will fit inside the phone, perhaps RGB laser scan projection.
As for TV transmitter out I would just want a good unlocked software defined radio with a fast DSP for in/out so I can do Bluetooth, WiFi, GSM, amateur radio, aircraft band, FM radio short range, GPS, FRS/PMR446, etc. There are times where I have in my flight bag a laptop, my N900, an air band HT, and a micro size UHF/VHF amateur radio HT, at least the N900 replaces a phone, GPS, MP3 player, gameboy, camera, voice recorder,, and PDA.
I dont mind something larger like the giant Galaxy tablet phones but I would like a sapphire screen, titanium body and vulcanized rubber bumpers like the Vertu phones have, I suppose some would like the leather and hardwood trim found on some Vertu phones.
I have several watches with clear sapphire crystal, it stays shiny and scratch free even after years of hard use even while the stainless steel shows some history. I always wonder if there was ever a Maemo/N900 type prototype device with a extreme materials case over at Vertu when that was a Nokia property.

don_falcone 2013-04-09 08:31

Re: My Dream Device
 
You guys have wishes :rolleyes: ...

My "dream"device:
a) CalDAV sync working flawlessly
b) CardDAV sync working flawlessly
c) reliable Alarms
d) Alarms working in "off" mode too
e) good GPS performance
f) Video recording stable and fluid (without hacks)
g) voice dial supported
h) fully matured PBAP support
i) reliable BT transfers in both directions between mobile/mobile and mobile/computers

N900 sucks at all of that besides (d) -> i absolutely could live without plastic keyboards and stylus for having an actually reliable travel or otherwise companion.

Alecsandru 2013-04-09 09:36

Re: My Dream Device
 
SGS4 hardware and MAEMO on top of it , that would be a nice dream

turbovomit 2013-04-09 10:53

Re: My Dream Device
 
Why ? I tried galaxy note 2. It lags sometimes, iy's not only hardware performance. My N9 don't lag a lot, even with no tweaks.
I think these super power hardware are not necessary.
All we need is a software made for a hardware.
A eeepc 701 is faster with archlinux than these last windows 8 crap tablet.
Performance on a quad core phone with 2gigas ram are far from what we know on a computer... Why ? Because you only care in text on the box.

128gigas ? Really ? I don't know what to do with 32gigas +sd on the N900...

Kangal 2013-04-09 13:18

Re: My Dream Device
 
My dream phone, well I have 3 ideas.

1) The first is a NOTE with better hardware, features and software

2) The second is like a N97, only with a very skinny (12mm) form, a huge 4.7in display and a convertable. The convertable is where the qwerty is, the qwerty can be removed and other peripherals can be placed inside such as an extended battery, a qwerty of another language, otherwise a (non-sucky) gamepad

3) This is my new one:
A large slate phone (like NOTE) with a thinness of 13mm
Minimal bezel, with a 16:9 display that measures 5.7inches.
The phone is actually folded into two, with a flexible touchscreen on the outside curving about the hinge.
The hinge opens the device to make it one flat touchscreen and doubles the display area.

So it "transforms":
- From a 13mm thick device with a 5.7in 1280 × 720 (258ppi :1.77) display
- To a 6.5mm thin devices with a 7.5in 1440 × 1280 (258ppi :1.125) display

Basically a pocketable tablet. One which goes from a 16:9 aspect ratio to a aspect ratio that is square-er than an iPad, hence more comfortable to grip, hold and rotate.

HELLASISGREECE 2013-04-09 14:27

Re: My Dream Device
 
imo, the N900 without the hardware failures (usb port, etc) and 512 or 1gb ram would have been dope.

HELLASISGREECE 2013-04-09 14:28

Re: My Dream Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alecsandru (Post 1334980)
SGS4 hardware and MAEMO on top of it , that would be a nice dream

Make that Milestone/Droid 4 (or 3)

*Maemo is largely based on qwerty (all those great qwerty shortcuts etc)

nokiabot 2013-04-09 14:42

Re: My Dream Device
 
same as wikiwide it must have ir fm transmitter compass :)

MartinK 2013-04-09 18:01

Re: My Dream Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbovomit (Post 1334990)
128gigas ? Really ? I don't know what to do with 32gigas +sd on the N900...

Could be handy for large OpenStreetMap datasets for routing, map rendering, etc. Also Wikipedia extracts. :)

nokiabot 2013-04-09 18:29

Re: My Dream Device
 
lol martink:D i also store lots of map data the only thing i ever missed in gps is map maker editor where i can create maps of obscure places in which i usually end up ..sigh

cheve 2013-04-09 18:57

Re: My Dream Device
 
size of the NOTE(and screen)
physical keyboard
OTG USB
FM transmitter
stylus
64GB + sdcard

Dave999 2013-04-09 19:08

Re: My Dream Device
 
A phone like a disc. A DISC PHONE!

marxian 2013-04-09 20:02

Re: My Dream Device
 
HWKB
Linux

Hacker 2013-04-09 22:24

Re: My Dream Device
 
Software: I want a phone that has multiboot of every OS, so app envy would be impossible. Or, you can pick an OS for general use and all the other OS's apps will run on the general OS natively. Of course you could switch which OS would be the general OS to suit your mood.

Hardware: Current highest end specs would be fine. The main differences would be (1) a super capacitor enabled power system to allow functionally limitless power, (2) a damage proof chassis and glass, and (3) owner-affinity, allowing the phone to sprout small legs and walk towards you and/or the phone can fly to your outstretched hand, like Luke Skywalker's lightsabre.

That's my dream phone.

nman 2013-04-10 00:24

Re: My Dream Device
 
What I want is simple.... a fu€king full size USB port.... why is it so difficult to design such a basic and useful thing??

PS 128gigs of storage and most other things in this thread would be nice too :D

nman 2013-04-10 00:26

Re: My Dream Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1335062)
A phone like a disc. A DISC PHONE!

You one of those annoying frisbee golfers??

rotoflex 2013-04-10 06:26

Re: My Dream Device
 
Wikiwide covered most of what I'd like, but I think a major point would be a type of X-forwarding (N900's isn't functional).

My concept of phone usage is more like personal computer - with a type of functional X-forwarding, you'd have your navigation application, music, music app, etc. on the phone, then when you get in the car with the phone, just use a larger screen for the display.

juiceme 2013-04-10 06:54

Re: My Dream Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1335068)
HWKB
Linux

Well, that's basically it.

I could well live without the HWKB even, but add one important requirement: no closed blobs on the device.

And I do mean none; all FW blobs should be open too, as well as all L2/L3/signalling stacks.
All algorithms documented. All sources provided, all tools provided, all build toolchains documented, all JEDEC files provided, all schematics provided, all gerber files provided.

herpderp 2013-04-10 09:10

Re: My Dream Device
 
HWKB
Linux

Android is Linux. Oh, you mean GNU/Linux?

juiceme 2013-04-10 10:28

Re: My Dream Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1335150)
Android is Linux. Oh, you mean GNU/Linux?

As long as we are talking about dreams, I cannot settle for anything less than
  • GNU hardware
  • GNU fimware
  • GNU software

iIf it's Linux that's okay for me but I will settle for Hurd/whatever you ard offering :D

cedar 2013-04-10 16:53

Re: My Dream Device
 
I just want a device fits in my pocket nicely.

I would buy an android, but they are all huge. I have a laptop if I want to carry something big around. Iphone5 is a nice size for me. really I could go even smaller, as long as it has a nice resolution. I don't know why there isn't more demand for this, they just keep making them bigger. calling them phablets and what not.

I've been eyeing the razr M, but really something better has to come out soon.

I like a lot of the ideas I've seen in this thread as well, as long as we're dreaming.

for now I stick with my 10 dollar dumb-phones and wait.

nicholes 2013-04-11 07:21

Re: My Dream Device
 
my dream device should look like that

It should do anything whatever I think

It should become physically anything what I want yes of course physical

Actually I am checking my name software which is typing by speaking

So I'm speaking whatever is coming in on my mind so please don't mind if you get bored by Reading this post.

Actually the software is working good it looks like that I can type by speaking it is working very well today I was not able to write so fast yesterday but today after getting some practice I'm able to type quite correctly.

Thanks again

Wikiwide 2013-04-11 08:26

Re: My Dream Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicholes (Post 1335379)
my dream device should look like that

It should do anything whatever I think

It should become physically anything what I want yes of course physical

Quick reply...
Not boring, not boring at all. And I wouldn't like a device which "does anything whatever I think" for two reasons. First, if technology exists to read a human mind, then there are far too many malicious ways to use it, including overwriting human mind; frightening opportunity for invasion of privacy. Second, if the device is capable of doing anything, then it's as scary as house elves in Harry-Potter-land: it is underestimated by the virtue of being a computer, it has unknown capabilities since its only limit is its owner's imagination, and it's capable of great destruction should owner wish it - or when the device turns out to have its own will, separate from the will of a human.
Just look at the influence Daneel Olivaw had on Foundation universe. He was benevolent, by his own choice or due to Asimov's laws, we don't know. But if the device doesn't obey Asimov's laws, or finds a way to disregard them, or is mistaken in some of the definitions, then the device may be, either deliberately or accidentally, malicious.

stickymick 2013-04-26 12:42

Re: My Dream Device
 
Short and sweet.

An HTC One with Sailfish.

nokiabot 2013-04-26 13:08

Re: My Dream Device
 
With an ir fmtransmitter optical zoom bgn x86 troch zenon black and white display.

TheoX 2013-04-30 22:25

Re: My Dream Device
 
Well my dream device will be the exact N900 with all the bugs fixed.

Maybe a little more CPU, but if Iphone can run flawlessly with a Cortex-A8, who am I to ask for more.

Maybe a little thin, with a large screen, but exactly the way it is now. A phone as strong as 3310, but smart!

visN900 2013-05-01 00:48

Re: My Dream Device
 
Maemo OS with dual/quad core
same qwerty as N900
41mp pureview phase2 camera
4.5inch capacitive ips lcd screen (with super sensitive touch)
solid audio quality as N900 and a rigid usb port
a fully functional android apps emulator

these would be the exact specs of Nokia if they had followed maemo/meego's path.. wow.. my dream device!!

Kangal 2013-05-08 01:26

Re: My Dream Device
 
While its not my Dream device, the Samsung NOTE's are a "noteworthy" mention over and over again. Its the N9-that-never-was.

For this reason, I think we should ponder about what Samsung has in store next.
What will the NOTE successor be like?
More specifically, how large will its body and screen be?

Looking at how the NOTE 1 represented the SGS2.
Looking at how the NOTE 2 represented the SGS3.
And looking at the SGS4... we can make some guestimations about the NOTE 3.

The S3 (to S4) increased in screen size by 4.2% or by 0.2 inches.
If we assume the same, Note 3 screen could be increased to 5.73inches (%) or 5.70 inches.

The S3 (to S4) dimensions decreased by:
-length (136.6 both) = 0% or by 0mm
-width (69.8 vs 70.6mm) = 1.2% or by -0.8mm
-thinness (7.9 vs 8.6mm) = -8% or by -0.7mm

Note 3 dimensions could be (%):
151.1 x 79.5 x 8.6 mm
Note 3 dimesnions could be (by mm's):
151.1 x 79.7 x 8.7 mm

If you think this is impossible (a larger screen, a smaller body)... you'd be dead wrong.
The screen's dimensions are (at max) 126.9 × 71.4 mm.
Hence, it would leave a space of (at least) 12.1 × 4.0 mm for the bezels on either side.


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