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HeebieJeebie 2007-08-23 02:53

gPodder development (update)
 
I installed gpodder today and noticed on the garage page that development appears to have come to a screeching halt in April right after that last release. Does anyone know if there are any plans to continue this project? I love this app on the desktop and would very much like to continue to use it on my N800 but it is a bit kludgy in it's present state. I'm probably going to email the project admin to find out what his intentions are and if there's anything I can do to help (although I have no coding skills whatsoever), provided he doesn't stumble across this thread first. It'd be nice to hear from some others who use or would like to use this application so I could show him there's some interest/incentive to continue work on it.

adammelancon 2007-08-23 03:00

Re: gPodder development
 
I use gpodder every day! I too wish i coded so i could help out with it. I would love to see it further developed, its a great (but sloooow) app.

HeebieJeebie 2007-08-23 03:03

Re: gPodder development
 
Well, the email to Mika is on it's way. I'll let you know what I hear back.

mobiledivide 2007-08-23 04:59

Re: gPodder development
 
The Canola developers have implemented podcatching in their latest version I hope its as robust and user friendly as the old Canola. I love gPodder too but it still needs a little work.

HeebieJeebie 2007-08-23 05:48

Re: gPodder development
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobiledivide (Post 70520)
The Canola developers have implemented podcatching
in their latest version I hope its as robust and user friendly as the old Canola. I love
gPodder too but it still needs a little work.

I appreciate the suggestion. Canola looks slick and I'm sure it's great, but I've had a heck of a time installing that app and I don't have the patience to go out chasing down individual missing dependencies and mucking about in the command line to get them installed. So until the Maemo or Canola folks get the repo straightened out I'm gonna take a pass on that one for now. I'd like an app that does just this one thing (podcatching) as I don't have a huge multimedia library and am only really interested in podcasts, and gPodder would fit that bill nicely if it just ran a little smoother.

audioworld 2007-09-05 01:51

Re: gPodder development
 
one question:
I see that gPodder for "General Linux" is on Version 0.9.5, but my version is at 0.8.0-10-maemo. Am I missing a new build, or would it be possible to build the most recent version for maemo???

http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/...runk/ChangeLog

as thomas perli is living in living in the same country as i do, I will try to contact him...

cheers, karl.

HeebieJeebie 2007-09-05 02:04

Re: gPodder development
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by audioworld (Post 73231)
one question:
I see that gPodder for "General Linux" is on Version 0.9.5, but my version is at 0.8.0-10-maemo. Am I missing a new build, or would it be possible to build the most recent version for maemo???

http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/...runk/ChangeLog

as thomas perli is living in living in the same country as i do, I will try to contact him...

cheers, karl.

No, you haven't missed a build. As I mentioned in the original post, there hasn't been any activity on this project since April, and judging by the lack of any reply from the project lead for the maemo port I'm not holding out much hope that there ever will be unless someone else decides to take it over. As for me, I've bitten the bullet and moved on to Canola (after much thrashing about finally getting it installed properly :rolleyes:).

adammelancon 2007-09-05 02:40

Re: gPodder development
 
Only problem is that you cant "download" podcasts with canola. You can only stream
them.
I would just be happy if the status box when checking for new podcasts in gpodder
would not stay 'on top' of all my other windows while I try to do other things while it
checks for new shows.y problem is that you cant "download" podcasts with canola. You can only stream them.
I would just be happy if the status box when checking for new podcasts in gpodder would not stay 'on top' of all my other windows while I try to do other things while it checks for new shows.

Traecer 2007-09-05 03:50

Re: gPodder development
 
Actually I'd settle for changing the download location! It's a shame development stopped on gPodder's maemo port; it's an excellent app for light podcasting needs.

adammelancon 2007-09-05 04:01

Re: gPodder development
 
I went through the code tonight thinking I could try to make some changes, but I'm thinking it's a bit over my head. I'm way more of a sysadmin / networking guru than a coder! I've been troubleshooting computers and networks since 1986, but have only started picking up a bit of coding recently.

audioworld 2007-09-05 14:20

Re: gPodder development
 
the developer of gpodder for desktop was so kind to give me some answers:

in short, the newest build for desktop linux has tons of new features and enhancements, but there is little or no communication between the desktop team and the maemo port maintainer (mika). Thomas is rewriting the core code a the moment, with the aim to make it easier to understand (and port, eventually).

I also came across this interesting article:
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/docu...emo_howto.html
..almost makes we want to try this for myself, but with zero linux and code development experience, I donīt really know where to start (IDE..???), I am in the same situation as adammelancon...-)

mobiledivide 2007-09-05 16:17

Re: gPodder development
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HeebieJeebie (Post 73233)
No, you haven't missed a build. As I mentioned in the original post, there hasn't been any activity on this project since April, and judging by the lack of any reply from the project lead for the maemo port I'm not holding out much hope that there ever will be unless someone else decides to take it over. As for me, I've bitten the bullet and moved on to Canola (after much thrashing about finally getting it installed properly :rolleyes:).

The canola I refer to has not been released yet and is still under development. I do not use the old version for podcasts because of the nature of streaming them. I believe Marcelo @ http://www.marceloeduardo.com/blog/ came on these forums and told us some of the new features.

HeebieJeebie 2007-09-06 00:43

Re: gPodder development
 
I think I've actually come to prefer streaming my podcasts if no other reason than it keeps files from taking up precious space on my cards. In the end I suppose it would be nice to be able to have gpodder available as well for the times that you have to be offline and still want to listen.

HeebieJeebie 2007-09-07 04:02

Re: gPodder development
 
Well, I finally heard back from Mika Leppinen (project lead for the gpodder Maemo port) and this is what he had to say:

"I stopped development for while, because the architecture of the gPodder is not very good for embedded use and it would take quite much time to rewrite it. I was hoping to find some nice native client that could deliver podcasts to device. It would help if you can test it and report bugs to bugzilla. I could look if some of the bugs are easy to fix."

So if you are having issues with the current version, hop on over to the gpodder garage page and let it be known what you would like to see improved. Although it doesn't seem there will be a complete update forthcoming, it's encouraging that we at least have his attention and there is some hope for improvement in what we have now.

thp 2007-09-23 23:30

Re: gPodder development
 
Upstream gPodder 0.10.0 has been released a few days ago. Unfortunately, I don't have an Internet Tablet, so I can't port upstream gPodder to Maemo, but getting the latest (0.10.0) gPodder onto the Internet Tablet would be good, because the _very_old_ 0.8 version (from January 2007) has quite a few bugs and performance problems with lots of podcasts. Does anyone know how to get a developer device?

ichmoimeyo 2007-09-24 23:42

Re: gPodder development
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thp (Post 77301)
Upstream gPodder 0.10.0 has been released a few days ago. Unfortunately, I don't have an Internet Tablet, so I can't port upstream gPodder to Maemo, but getting the latest (0.10.0) gPodder onto the Internet Tablet would be good, because the _very_old_ 0.8 version (from January 2007) has quite a few bugs and performance problems with lots of podcasts. Does anyone know how to get a developer device?

This is 'old' info , thp, but I believe Quim Gil is still the man to contact:
Quote:

We are sending a first wave of invitations that should cover all our core contributors’ spectrum. Then we will go for missed people and unusual cases in a second and final wave. If you didn't get an invitation after the first wave and you really think to be in the group of top 500 humans deserving one, you will have an opportunity to push yourself as a candidate. Apply to Quim dot Gil at maemo.org
I sincerely hope you succeed in 'hildonizing' the latest gPodder 0.10.0 release. [When I heard about the update a few days ago, I started reading the tutorial on how version 0.08 was 'hildonized'; unfortunately I do not have an up-to-date linux environment at the moment ... nor the know-how.]
I look forward to hearing whether you'll receive a developer device as I really would like to be able to auto-download my podcasts so that the latest are always available to enjoy when offline. gPodder is a killer application for the Internet Tablet!

gammer 2007-09-26 09:32

Re: gPodder development
 
I do agree, a killer app!

ysss 2007-09-26 15:43

Re: gPodder development
 
Yes, another vote for this app!

Sloan 2007-09-26 18:00

Re: gPodder development
 
It may not be constructive to add my vote in, but I too am waiting desperately for this app's development. It is at the top of my list of wanted software.

Specifically, I'd like to be able to have some sort of "Mark All As Read" function where I wouldn't necessarily have to see all the possible podcasts in a feed all the time and just download them from a given point on. I don't believe this is possible currently?

My eternal thanks to anyone developing upon gPodder!

whouweling 2007-10-01 20:24

Re: gPodder development
 
I too used gpodder, but its quite slow and crashed a few times loosing my complete channel list.

Because of this I modified bashpoddder (http://lincgeek.org/bashpodder/) a bit, and I thought maybe you guys could also use it. Bashpodder downloads new podcasts sequential, instead of parallel, thus avoiding crashes and uses way less cpu power. (So you can sync the new podcasts in the background while doing other stuff.)

Please note: bashpodder is not a gui application!

Changes to bashpodder:
- Only download the last 2 episodes of a podcast, instead of downloading all episodes.
- Downloads the podcasts to the internal SD memory card. (configurable)

What do you need:
- Osso terminal
- Wget package

Download the files here: http://wsys.nl/bp_n800.zip

To install: (in the xterm)
cd MyDocs/.documents
unzip bp_n800.zip

To run:

cd podder
./bashpodder.shell

Modify the config file bp.conf to add and remove channels. (I already provided my favorite channels ;-)) Run the bashpodder.shell script from the terminal to retrieve the last 2 podcasts, rerun daily to fetch newly added podcasts.

Podcasts are downloaded to /media/mmc2/podcasts/<date>

Hope someone finds this useful, is working great for me :-)

ptaffs 2007-10-09 12:53

Re: gPodder development
 
I'm a user of gpodder, but also a part-time coder. I've made changes I want to see in the app, ie only downloading 1 most recent episode.

I am trying to change it so the reliance on using /media/mmc1/gpodder is user configurable. The project doesn't have any bugs listed (ok it does, 1 old, vague one), so what else is there to look at? What features of desktop gpodder 10.0 are required? I don't see anything compelling.

Mika is looking at updating the package with changes, in the mean-time, the source is in the repository for those who want to pick it up for testing.

adammelancon 2007-10-09 13:41

Re: gPodder development
 
I have no problems with the program other than:
1. Gpodder starts up WAY too slow. When I start it in the AM to get my podcasts for the day, I usually have to start gpodder and walk away for a bit and let it finish starting up.
2. When checking for new podcasts, the progress window stays "on top" of all other windows, which can be annoying when you want to do something else while it checks for new shows.

Other than that, the program works great for me!
Now If I just had a player that can remember where I left off in my podcast when I open the file again, my life would be complete.

www.rzr.online.fr 2010-08-29 11:25

Re: gPodder development
 
Some feature I'd like to add, is to display direct link to media file on item contextual menu or info view ?

I can try to add this if someone is willing to mentor me to sync this upstream?

Regards

--
http://rzr.online.fr/q/podcast


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