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Dave999 2013-09-09 16:30

The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
So many Smart+watches appears that we defiantly need a thread. Even if sony and samsung have their own clocks. This one is top notch so far according to me.

But I'm also a fan of crowed funding projects...So I'm going for a dev kit. Not that I like smart watches but why not try one. :D

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...dalone-smartwa

Whats your thoughts? Are you going for one of the watches, which one?

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo..._landscape.jpg


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...r_2661924b.jpg

http://eju.tv/wp-content/uploads/201...1000_omate.jpg


Qualcomm Toq http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/file...size=303%2C285

If you have another smart watch favorite, please post it here so I can add it to this post.

jessi3k3 2013-09-09 16:32

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Maybe you should have typed it as Smart-watch

sixwheeledbeast 2013-09-09 18:25

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
http://www.smar****chfor.com/

I like the idea of them but from what I have seen they just don't integrate into other devices well enough. Also many are bulky and too expensive for there functionality.

Nike one is worth a mention.

---Edit, mmm it seems the BWF kicks in

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juiceme 2013-09-09 18:46

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
[QUOTE=Dave999;1373156]http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...dalone-smartwa

Hmm what do they say about the most important thing? oh yeah, thought so:
Quote:

Standby Time: 100 hours / Talktime 240min.
With HW like that "talktime" means any time the device is doing something useful, hey, that's just 4 hours.
And as these things go, tat is a gross over-estimete. You will get runtime of 2 hours if you are lucky.

no thanks.

pichlo 2013-09-09 19:20

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
@juiceme, how big a battery can you reasonably fit in one of those things?
Of course it's just a gimmick, it's not meant to be useful.

juiceme 2013-09-09 19:43

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1373188)
@juiceme, how big a battery can you reasonably fit in one of those things?
Of course it's just a gimmick, it's not meant to be useful.

Sure, but people like Dave get all over exited about new tech, not about usability.
Nothing wrong about that, new tech is shiny and nice to play with but still... I prefer a bit older and maybe more useful tech :D

Regarding smart_watches, I'd like one that communicates with my devices using some ultra-low-energy protocol, so that the teeny battery lasts at least few years.
I don't care about fancy displays either, some B&W low-energy type would be enough.

pichlo 2013-09-09 19:58

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1373202)
Regarding smart_watches, I'd like one that communicates with my devices using some ultra-low-energy protocol, so that the teeny battery lasts at least few years.
I don't care about fancy displays either, some B&W low-energy type would be enough.

Hmm... Low energy, battery lasts for years, low-res B&W display, communicating with other devices using your ultra-low-energy fingers... You have just described a 1980s digital watch :)

Kangal 2013-09-10 00:09

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
I think they need to improve on the AOLED/SAMOLED side.

Need a display with:
- low resolution
- low density
- low colour count
- slow refresh rate
- low low power drain
- high viewing angles
- high brightness/sun readability
- deep blacks, white whites

Something along the lines of:
- RGB matrix
- 400 x 400 resolution (or more)
- 24Hz/fps refresh rate (or more)
- 500 nits (or more)
- 0.01 nits Black Level (or less)
- 200 mW drain (or less)

Estel 2013-09-10 02:47

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
In fact, some e-paper BT display thingies are expected to last few days of regular usage, I've heard (and e-ink offer some nice things re strong ambient light enviromnent). It's worth to mention few semi-open projects (for sure way better, than what "big companies" from first post have to offer):

http://www.metawatch.org/
http://getpebble.com/ (warning, this one uses "e-paper" term in adverts, while in fact, it's not a real e-paper, just very low-power transreflective B&W screen...)

...etc. Sadly, none of them is really open, so people started bundling together a 100% DIY (from base components, microcontrollers, etc) thingies, printing cases for them on 3D printers. That is the really interesting segment of bluetooth watches.

/Estel

tumnurkoz 2013-09-26 18:06

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
I'm impressed with my Metawatch. lasts for a week, using SoWatch i get all my notifications from my N9 without taking the phone out of my pocket.

Great whilst on a bike, driving etc. It is as 'open' as you can get. There are no real 'apps' on the watch, they are all on the phone. If you can code for N9, you can get busy! If only i could be competent with github and work on @JavisPedros SoWatch work!

I don't need different 'watch faces', but it would be nice to configure the home screen as per the iOS and 'Droid phone apps.

Dave999 2014-04-20 09:53

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
I was planning to get a smar****ch. But Im in to a suunto ambit2. Anyone using IT for Hiking, Biking and running?

Looks great but it seems to be BIG.

Anyone have any other smartactionwatch?

juiceme 2014-04-20 13:53

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1422017)
Anyone have any other smartactionwatch?

Up to now I have only found one that I could consider;
http://www.cookoowatch.com/

That's not a battery hog, it lasts like a regular watch so you just change the battery every few years. No charging it all the time.

The functionality is fairly limited, but what do you need on a watch anyway...

biketool 2014-04-20 14:49

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Please fix the title of this thread, smart watch is not an obscene word and otherwise we have no idea what the thread is about. Snce Meamo.org *****s it out just split the words like I did, we will understand.
Also WTF is maemo.org doing that????

Kangal 2014-04-20 14:50

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
What about the Rufus Cuff ??
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/t...municator#home

Its the best concept out there, better than the iNanowatch, Galaxy Fit, Galaxy Gear, Moto 360 etc etc.

However I think its far from perfect. It should do a few modifications:
- 3 day minimum battery life on Normal-Intensive use.
- T9 Keyboard or something easier to enter input than a full qwerty.
- Shave off some of the sides and bezels, give it a smaller profile.
- Dedicated Wrist UI for the GPS/Maps App.
- Include an accurate heartbeat sensor, thermoscope and barometre.
- Trade for accurate accelarometre and gyroscrope.
- Calorie counter (to have a full-featured health accessory).
- Omit the camera (its also a hazard).
- Face speaker toward user (use for loudspeaker/alarm/notifications only)
(music would drain battery too quick - prevent such feature)
- Wireless charging (if it doesn't add bulk) otherwise a small charging implementation.

And all-in-all: make it an intuitive user interface, not slowed down by the processor and experience not ruined by a screen that lacks sunlight visibility/brightness/viewing angles/colour/refresh rate.

A 3.0 inch companion screen to always show the time, notifications, and track your daily duties (fitness, appointments, notations, weather, news, rss, twitter, stock etc) seems like a useful addition to our ever-connected lives. And $249 seems like a profitable price that doesn't ask too much.

https://images.indiegogo.com/file_at...png?1394986774

juiceme 2014-04-20 15:25

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1422064)
What about the Rufus Cuff ??
.....
However I think its far from perfect. It should do a few modifications:
- 3 day minimum battery life on Normal-Intensive use.

Hey, that means it is not usable, it is POC, it is throwaway stuff, it is Dave-bait.

For a WATCH it bloody well needs to last at least an YEAR, else it is not worth anyting.

Dave999 2014-04-20 15:59

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1422064)
What about the Rufus Cuff ??
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/t...municator#home

Its the best concept out there, better than the iNanowatch, Galaxy Fit, Galaxy Gear, Moto 360 etc etc.

However I think its far from perfect. It should do a few modifications:
- 3 day minimum battery life on Normal-Intensive use.
- T9 Keyboard or something easier to enter input than a full qwerty.
- Shave off some of the sides and bezels, give it a smaller profile.
- Dedicated Wrist UI for the GPS/Maps App.
- Include an accurate heartbeat sensor, thermoscope and barometre.
- Trade for accurate accelarometre and gyroscrope.
- Calorie counter (to have a full-featured health accessory).
- Omit the camera (its also a hazard).
- Face speaker toward user (use for loudspeaker/alarm/notifications only)
(music would drain battery too quick - prevent such feature)
- Wireless charging (if it doesn't add bulk) otherwise a small charging implementation.

And all-in-all: make it an intuitive user interface, not slowed down by the processor and experience not ruined by a screen that lacks sunlight visibility/brightness/viewing angles/colour/refresh rate.

A 3.0 inch companion screen to always show the time, notifications, and track your daily duties (fitness, appointments, notations, weather, news, rss, twitter, stock etc) seems like a useful addition to our ever-connected lives. And $249 seems like a profitable price that doesn't ask too much.

https://images.indiegogo.com/file_at...png?1394986774

While that concept looks cool It wouldn't survice a 1 sec in the wild with running, biking, swiming, skiing, parachuting and climbing. I break about one unbreakable watch per year so this is no go. Very cool concept eitherway

It's easy to build a concept, not as easy to build a product!

But I might need one either way, just to show my support. Anyone bought an early bird?

Kangal 2014-04-20 16:55

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1422075)
While that concept looks cool It wouldn't survice a 1 sec in the wild with running, biking, swiming, skiing, parachuting and climbing. I break about one unbreakable watch per year so this is no go. Very cool concept eitherway

It's easy to build a concept, not as easy to build a product!

But I might need one either way, just to show my support. Anyone bought an early bird?

Its not just a concept, they've got working prototypes... well working in a sense. Obviously the software isn't ready. Neither is the quality and things for mass production.

And you're blowing things out of proportion. Its not going to hinder people from running, biking and parachuting. It might affect skiing and climbing. And it will definitely affect swimming.

Think of this as less of a watch and less of a Pebble, and more of a Predator-type gauntlet. Which sits comfortably on your wrist while providing a screen large enough to make proper use of smart-functions.


@juiceme
The OG Pebble gets around 3-4 days on Normal-Intensive use. With the Pebble Steel its possible to get 7 days on Light Use.
The Galaxy Gear gets 1 day on Normal-Intensive use and 2 days on Light Use. The Galaxy Gear 2 gets 1.5 days on Normal-Intensive use and around 2.5 days on Light Use.

Since this smartw@tch is smarter than both of those and has a larger display it needs more juice. But since its just large enough to accommodate a proper battery it has a lot more stamina than the alternatives. 3 day battery life on Intensive Use is actually good, it wouldn't hurt to take it off during the nigh and put it on a mat which could wirelessly charge it. 7 day battery life on Intensive Use will be the gold standard though, and we'll get there very very soon as soon as we get a slight spec bump to our battery technology.

Dave999 2014-08-08 13:45

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/busi...03500320F.html

Finally a watch With its own sim.

Dave999 2014-08-31 13:40

Re: The Ultimate Smar****ch Thread!
 
LG With a new smar****ch. Finally smar****ches getting nicer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ew-models.html


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