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Metsämies 2013-09-25 10:09
Jolla & Nokia ?
 
http://mobiili.fi/2013/09/25/onko-jo...tasi-omallaan/

As you can see, "Sail set for Nokia world.." and picture of small boat (Jolla in Finnish) and after that Antti Saarnio from Jolla tweeted "Sail is set for Jolla world".

There is speculation of humor or some kind of collaboration for example with HERE maps for Jolla ? Let's see!

HtheB 2013-09-25 10:19
Re: Jolla & Nokia ?
 
It feels like they are trolling with us...

tortoisedoc 2013-09-25 10:31
Re: Jolla & Nokia ?
 
The only way this would make sense is to have Nokia HW + sailfish os. Nokia just sold their mobile unit. So how can that match?

EDIT: unless they sold the LUMIA line only...

Metsämies 2013-09-25 10:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1376646)
The only way this would make sense is to have Nokia HW + sailfish os. Nokia just sold their mobile unit. .
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09...evices_whynot/

What the new communication device will be? With Sailfish os..?

Dave999 2013-09-25 12:36
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Jolla most leave Finland ASAP. They need to step out of the shadow of Nokia and that is impossible in Finland. Nokia owns Finland mobile world even without their mobile devices.

Mikkosssss 2013-09-25 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1376683)
Jolla most leave Finland ASAP. They need to step out of the shadow of Nokia and that is impossible in Finland. Nokia owns Finland mobile world even without their mobile devices.
You have these funny facts about Finland. :rolleyes:
When first Microsoft Lumia phones arrive every one in Finland will realise that there will be no new Nokia phones and finds Jolla.

kinggo 2013-09-25 14:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikkosssss (Post 1376693)
You have these funny facts about Finland. :rolleyes:
well, it's not only about Finland. But then, it's understandable, trolls live up there in the north.

tortoisedoc 2013-09-25 15:27
Re: Jolla & Nokia ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1376705)
well, it's not only about Finland. But then, it's understandable, trolls live up there in the north.

Yeah. But in Norway, actually.

tortoisedoc 2013-09-25 15:27
Re: Jolla & Nokia ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1376683)
Jolla most leave Finland ASAP. They need to step out of the shadow of Nokia and that is impossible in Finland. Nokia owns Finland mobile world even without their mobile devices.
Jolla is living off Nokia patents (MAEMO / MER). Or are they?
Even if they would run very fast very far, Nokia would still follow them.

Dave999 2013-09-25 15:55
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What are you saying? Jolla should move to Norway because there are lots of trolls in the north? Or did the trolls really live in Norway? What are people doing in Norway anyway... Hunting for oil, skiing and build future jolla device?

Thank you for calling my statements facts ;) I can't agree.

tissot 2013-09-25 16:18
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... what the hell is this thread about?

thedead1440 2013-09-25 16:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1376723)
... what the hell is this thread about?
Just like most of the other Jolla threads around; much ado about nothing...

zimon 2013-09-25 16:35
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I do not know what it is about. What I know, is Microsoft will own 10% of the left over ½-Nokia (NSN, Here, patents), and Nokia will own patents, and Nokia will continue license those patents to Jolla. If ½-Nokia won't survive, in time Microsoft will own also that ½-Nokia and I wonder what will then happen to Jolla and to the licenses it now has from Nokia.

Rauha 2013-09-25 16:35
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Stop this nonsense.

...or the gun will fire.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-cont...kitten_die.jpg

Dave999 2013-09-25 16:55
Re: Jolla & Nokia ?
 
Maemo dead... 1 bullet
Meego dead... 1 bullet
Nokia dead... 4 bullets
Ubuntu edge dead... 1 Bullet
Tizen half dead half alive...
Jolla walking dead...

All bullets are already used... I just called your hand... Cat is safe.

The news feed from the small five are really dry so people here speculate like its no tomorrow. I've even seen people QUOTE and answer their own speculations :D

mikecomputing 2013-09-25 18:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Metsämies (Post 1376651)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09...evices_whynot/

What the new communication device will be? With Sailfish os..?
why the HECK would you think it would run sailfishos!? even if not smartphone Nokia may choose to use windowsRT or similar crap.

juiceme 2013-09-26 04:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1376753)
why the HECK would you think it would run sailfishos!? even if not smartphone Nokia may choose to use windowsRT or similar crap.
Now why would you even think something like that? Windos-based OS'es are so inflexible there's no profit in using them on any embedded devices. The whole WP thing was done for political reasons, not technological.

Now when NMP is leaving Nokia, there will be no MS based OS'es in any Nokia products, instead there are at least 4 other major platforms that I know of; one is totally own-grown, two are loosely based on BSD implementations and one is a linux distribution.

kinggo 2013-09-26 08:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1376724)
Just like most of the other Jolla threads with Troll999 around; much ado about nothing...
there, I fixed it.

mikecomputing 2013-09-26 17:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1376838)
Now why would you even think something like that? Windos-based OS'es are so inflexible there's no profit in using them on any embedded devices. The whole WP thing was done for political reasons, not technological.

Now when NMP is leaving Nokia, there will be no MS based OS'es in any Nokia products, instead there are at least 4 other major platforms that I know of; one is totally own-grown, two are loosely based on BSD implementations and one is a linux distribution.
I am sure they can get windows for free from Microsoft.

so now stop dream. no point for them use sailfishos.

juiceme 2013-09-26 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1377003)
I am sure they can get windows for free from Microsoft.
Why on earth would MS lisence windows for free to any OEM? AFAIK they lisenced WP for Nokia for a set price, even as there was a kind of cashback-deal where MS paid marketing support fees to Nokia for using it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1377003)
so now stop dream. no point for them use sailfishos.
True. SailfishOS is heavily customized for use in UE's, and is mainly UX. Nokia does not need anything like that currently.
What I was pointing out is that Nokia has several other OS'es in use (and has had for a long time, mark you), and now when the UE business is sold off to MS there are no ties left there.

mikecomputing 2013-09-27 18:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1377027)
Why on earth would MS lisence windows for free to any OEM? AFAIK they lisenced WP for Nokia for a set price, even as there was a kind of cashback-deal where MS paid marketing support fees to Nokia for using it.
Simply because sw bussiness has changed, there are androids, there are core linux and so on.

Microsoft have to start fight to get more manufactors using windows on embedded products and then later they may get payback in another ways.

But yes if nokia is smart they choose some Qt based OS. However Nokia has not choosed smart the latest years, so why would they change now? Because Elop era ends? I doubt...

If people are so stupid thinking that Elop was the only idiot at Nokia board, well then they are naive. We can only hope the new board is not to much "american sw is your best friend" but I have my doubts...

juiceme 2013-09-28 19:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1377248)
Simply because sw bussiness has changed, there are androids, there are core linux and so on.

Microsoft have to start fight to get more manufactors using windows on embedded products and then later they may get payback in another ways.
Now this depends on what kind of embedded are we talking about.
Currently MS has some kind of foothold only on devices that need to provide some MS-compatible service, like some NAS boxes. (and even more of them work with other OSes than windows)


Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1377248)
But yes if nokia is smart they choose some Qt based OS. However Nokia has not choosed smart the latest years, so why would they change now? Because Elop era ends? I doubt...

If people are so stupid thinking that Elop was the only idiot at Nokia board, well then they are naive. We can only hope the new board is not to much "american sw is your best friend" but I have my doubts...

QT based OS only makes sense if you have a graphical UI... currently there are quite a lot of Nokia products that do not fall into this category :)

mikecomputing 2013-09-28 21:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1377465)
Now this depends on what kind of embedded are we talking about.
Currently MS has some kind of foothold only on devices that need to provide some MS-compatible service, like some NAS boxes. (and even more of them work with other OSes than windows)





QT based OS only makes sense if you have a graphical UI... currently there are quite a lot of Nokia products that do not fall into this category :)
I am talking bout car media product etc. because I heard something bout thats what Nokia new strategy will going that includes Navteq ofcourse.

juiceme 2013-09-30 04:33
Re: Jolla & Nokia ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1377480)
I am talking bout car media product etc. because I heard something bout thats what Nokia new strategy will going that includes Navteq ofcourse.
I was talking about NE's and other industrial equipment, not consumer products :D


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