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I put up a thread that was deleted on Jolla differentiation. Must be a Jolla agent here. I think this is a serious topic of survival. I am still not getting why should average Joe by this phone. What differentiates it from others. Its not the specs. Its not the apps. What is it?

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So many jolla threads. How am I suppose to be able to post crucial stuff in all of them?

The name is different from the rest. That's a good start. Recognition and differentiation!

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It is not a Windows phone - that's definitely one of the main reasons to buy it. :D

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The question is if gestures are faster and simplier?

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Not a good logic for many. They don't just buy a thing because its not something else.

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Are you impressed by that? Seems too complicated for ordinary folks. Remember Symbian, you don't want to get into way too many swipe moves that have different effects. Symbian lost because its interface was way too complicated compared to iOS.

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Mike vs lumia. This Will be Fun...

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I disagree: Most people who have used a Windows phone don't want it for long and don't want a Windows phone ever again.
All of those people would just jump on any phone that advertises "... and it's not Windows". :)

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It's just "doors."

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Au contrair, mon ami!

In the last three elections I did not vote for my candidate but against the one I did not want.

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She promised. She has to be right.

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One thing for sure. Jolla has fanboys here. They may sell....let me see....10 phones. Why would average Joe get Jolla over android or iOS?

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Is that how you buy your underwear?

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Even the device itself is uglyyyy

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Don't say about anything ugly before looking at your own mirror

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Hahahahaha.....such intelligent answers...clearly headed the way Symbian went....bankruptcy

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By the way...got double tap on Lumia!!

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WARNING! Be careful with your upcoming Jolla! Your girlfriend may take it when she get a chance :cool: :p

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She must be pretty desperate to choose Jolla

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At this point anything is better than the Windows phone... including Jolla even before we have the device in our grubby hands.

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I'm not dating Angelina, yet

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Customers are paid money to use Windows. Within a month they return the phone and curse you for suggesting it.

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Wow, windows phone has really moved up in features there. I guess I have no choice now

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By the time Jolla is released it will be swiping up and down and backwards and doing multitasking somersaults!!!

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I also hate phones with square corners. Not easy to hold.

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Really? You've got to be kidding me. If that happens you must buy it!

And your point is... ?
All phones phones these days have rounded corners - even Windows phones.

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Not true. Lumia 620 is curved so are iPhones, much easier on hands

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What do rounded corners have anything to do with being easy on hands?

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The average Joe won't buy a Jolla over Android or iOS or WP. But a savvy user and/or Harmattan/Nokia fan just may. As would people that are finally starting to look for an option that fits them better than the boring/staid iOS (iOS 7 helps) or the lacking in customization WP (8.1 might change some minor things) to be considered an option by iOS or Android holdouts.

But seriously... you're talking to the people that would buy Jolla mainly because it's not iOS or Android or WP. So let's start with the obvious. Linux based. Open source. Gesture based. The company has embraced the community and tools/frameworks/tools/software that most here know, trust or use nearly daily.

And each point - I know the counterpoints for the most part - will invariably not be enough for you. So let me ask you the converse, why wouldn't you buy one? Lack of sales? Nothing is on sale as of this very post. Because it's unfamiliar? So was iOS, Android and WP (but not WinCE at the core of WP7) at one time or another.

Meh... I actually logically answered you. Please do the same.

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Well Gerb, it will please the mutants here. But that is not who they target. They need wider audience than the anomalies. They need it to simply make money. Why am I critical of them? Simple. They really didn't do justice to N900 and N9 was a disaster. So why would I expect anything better from them? I don't. At the same time I don't want people just to buy the device blinded by fanboyism here of how good it may be. People need to realize that this team failed twice before. The third time may happen. Lets wait and see.

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That's how you start though. iPhone came when wi-fi in a phone was a rarity. Same for responsive touch screens. Now, it's all about freedom from the walled gardens for a lot of folks.

N900 wasn't really a mass market item. I don't care what anybody on this forum states, it's not something easily handed off to say somebody's grandmother. Perhaps a savvy parent, but not a grandmother. That's where iOS shines. Grandmother's can pick it up easily.

You want to concentrate fanboyism; yet you ignore the fact that lining up for days at a time for the next barely upgraded iteration of an iPhone is the real definition of fanboyism. What you're witnessing here is brand loyalism. That's an equal cardinal sin in my books.

You're right. Jolla needs to make money. But what's their true goal? To be different. To sale different means that they will probably have to take routes that you'd not consider popular or even viable. Give it time, they've yet to start selling one thing.

The N9 sold well considering what was done to it - released in Azerbaijan and remote countries, not officially released in the UK, Germany, France, US or any other country that I'd consider "1st world" for the most part. Blame whomever you want for that, but it just was sold in some rather odd places.

You say that they've failed twice, this will be the third time. Each and every start and stop of Maemo/OSSO/MeeGo was a failure to me. But then again, WinCE 6.0, WP7, WP7.5, WP7.8, WP8, WP8.1 - who strikes out that much? Only WinCE 6.0 was a success. And that's mostly due to lack of competition at that time - Palm (dead), BlackBerry (dying) and Nokia (beyond dead) yet you show patience for Microsoft.

I'm not asking. Just observing. You say you'd wait... and there's only one thing that's ever told me the absolute truth - time. We'll see.

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Pretty much. I go through what's on offer: ugly, ugly, ugly, barely passable, ugly, ugly... In the end I end up buying the one that I find the least unagreeable.

Same with phones for that matter: ugly (Android), ugly (iPhone), downright fugly (WP)... Jolla might as well end up the only passable option left.

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Why don't iOS use long press(home button) to show used apps like android? How do you switch between application in iOS.

Android have pretty ok multitasking and the will soon open all apps in windows so user can run lots of app at same screen. At same time..great for tablets.

That is probably the biggest difference to jolla. Live Multitasking...

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The gestures must be good. Apple already started to copy them. ;)

And it's only a few simple gestures that are natural and easy to remember. Nothing like the gesture craziness of BB 10. Just try in the SDK emulator to get a feel of it.