Can the Jolla phone be used in the united states
 

I know this is a stupid question but many phones such as the N9 and the N900 were unlocked and could easily be imported and used. Will that be the case with the Jolla device?

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Jolla didn't publish supported frequencies specs for the radio modem which will be shipped with their first production batch, so you'll have wait until that information will be available (I guess not until the actual release on November 27th).

So far, all they said was:

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Honestly why didnt they just release that information....makes me miss the old nokia company.

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I don't know, I doubt that information will suddenly change now in such a short time. You can ask them this question.

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I'd be willing to bet yes, but 4G/LTE is questionable based on whomever you pick as your provider in the US.

But it might/should fallback to 3G in most cases. Just an educated guess, so please treat it as such.

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I think even Apple is less secretive about the specs of their upcoming products than Jolla is.

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There is no practical benefit in publishing these specs, while you can't even buy the device yet. Except may be letting potential users plan their future purchases in a better fashion. On the other hand I'm not sure how publishing them can hurt Jolla.

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http://www.gsmarena.com/jolla_jolla-5457.php#

yet its not official i assume

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I just can't trust GSMArena before it's released. Remember they stated that the N900 was going to have Java on their pre-release pages? Heck, I think it still said it until very recently...

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Hmmmmm....low scores and pathetic interest ...here is another bad news


http://gigaom.com/2013/11/15/remembe...ng-about-that/

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The website, gsm arena sates that it has NFC as well. Now, I might be mistaken, but Jolla officially never said anything about NFC... did they?

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never trust gsmarena

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gerbick

agree with you not trusting gsmarena or any other place for that matter until official released from Jolla. Thats why i mentioned "not official" and there is Disclaimer @ gsmarena "We can not guarantee that the information on this page is 100% correct"

i guess this more trustworthy http://jolla.com/ (speaking of NFC) there is spec. ;)

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Now that the phones are already beign made it makes no difference. Before finalising the hardware, it made sense not to commit supporting any spesific frequency bands other than those used in EU.

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eh... It's my goto site for specs :o

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If the specs are not widely available, GSMArena guaranteed to get the specs wrong. It's actually pretty amazing how they always manage to do that.

Has Jolla confirmed that LTE will work in Finland at least?

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They haven't confirmed any frequency support. But all 3 main LTE networks in finland work at 800 (planned, not active yet), 1800 and 2600 mhz. (There's also one test project at 700mhz). So support for those bands would be quite probable.

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Nope, but they have confirmed LTE and launch in FInland.

So it should at least work on EU standard 1800Mhz and 2600 MHz bands. Big question is if it works on newer 800Mhz frequencies, which is what most of Finland (outside Helsinki, Turku, Tampere and few bigger towns) will be covered with. My guess would be that the cheap generic Chinese hardware platforms (ie Jolla) don't mostly support it yet.

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Sorry, you are mistaken. Check Jolla.com ---> All specs -> Network & connectivity.

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But please remember to read "Extension interfaces for"-part before you jump into wrong conclusions :)

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And what would these wrong conclusions be?

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That having an extension interface for NFC is the same as having NFC

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Ok. What TOH uses to connect to the actual phone then?

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It is not clear to me what that means. Is NFC included in the main half (phone), or only in NFC-capable-OH connected through I²C? The latter sounds limiting, and I admit I always believed the main NFC part was in the phone (plus NFC chips in some OH for simple interactions, like automatic Ambiance).

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Jolla will self explode as soon as it crosses the US border. Jolla will not withstand pressure from other competitors.

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I believe IT IS in the phone. If it's not it'd be crazy enough. Since TOH can connect through NFC to the phone. Anyway, kinda off topic :p

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Now that the device is out, can anyone that has it confirm the bands it supports?

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Everyone is strangely silent on this :) I asked multiple times already.

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They've been Raptured into heaven, and we've been left behind.

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and does it work in australia and singapore

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I guess everything must be working just fine, otherwise you'd see somebody bitching about it :D

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Well, those of us outside of the initially supported regions want to know if devices will work with our mobile providers as well :) Since device is out, shouldn't Jolla publish the full specs on the modem somewhere?

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I agree... Would be nice to know if I'm getting an LTE device or 3G device :p

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about bands
I read on IRC that 4G will come later as an upgrade (see that in the user guide only 3G is mentionned)
So maybe something is still unclear and they do not want to make any announcement yet?

Regarding 3G they could make a statement. But they basically mean that it works everywhere with 3G (but that is more my assumption).

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As an upgrade to the hardware? How exactly do you see this happening? Or it's a software limitation which can be fixed with an OS update?

User guide does mention 4G in the very end.

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Not via an other half :) but I understood they need to enable it via a OS update

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Even if that were true, the 4G modem hardware only supports a certain number of frequencies, and that cannot be changed via software. So I'd really like to know what those frequencies are.

Regarding 3G, it's probably obvious that it's pentaband at this point, but I'd like to have some closure on this.

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No, jPhone cannot be used, not even imported into US. You know why? I tell you why. The moment it hits the US soil, Jolla will be sued by Apple for patent infringement in speaker placement. So, that's all, folks.

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GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS: 900/2100 MHz

Now you can do your math about what will work in the US.
I don't find any info about LTE, though, and as I don't have an LTE contract, cannot test it either.

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LTE isn't functional on Jolla device, so that shouldn't figure into your calculation.