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Half-Life_4_Life 2014-01-15 20:31

Nokia "Normandy"
 
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/1...marena_001.jpg

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Qualcomm Snapdragon 200 SoC,
4” FWVGA display,
5MP camera,
and Android 4.4.1 KitKat.

The smartphone is to launch during MWC 2014 next month in Barcelona.

Whether fake or not I think Nokia would be more successful with Android and not WP.

And personally I think it's fake. How can Nokia release new phones before 2016 (with Nokia brand on them) ?

Source.

bill_klpd 2014-01-15 21:02

Re: Nokia "Normandy"
 
I think that it is fake too...
It is just like a photoshoped nokia asha 503! :p

What I can't understand is why nokia stoped supporting maemo/meego... They should continue with these instead of going to wp and maybe giving some new breathe to the dead symbian...

This is the reason I like so much the jolla phone. It has something new, not only for hardware but for software as well! I am really bored all of these android phones and there are so many(and I hadn't used one)! The only actually difference is the harware specs.

Half-Life_4_Life 2014-01-15 21:23

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Yes Android is boring. Alot.
I would like to believe that Nokia will soon make a new phone with Symbian or such but that is really dreaming.

If this is true then Nokia will at least make some money in the low-end market..

And the new Asha series could be amazing if they would run Meltemi.

bill_klpd 2014-01-15 21:35

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I don't think that they will use symbian again.

I had a n8 and I moved to n900(what an irony) because of the disinterest of nokia and developers for symbian! It was so cool to have updates like symbian belle, and then nothing... And it was a pity because there were some really cool models out there running symbian!

As for the Meltemi(I didn't even know how it is called), I didn't like it... It is like a fake Harmattan but you can't do almost nothing! I was trying to find on an Asha 503 how to change the default memory for camera and I couldn't use it! After some tries I just gave because I was bored :p

caprico 2014-01-15 21:39

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@bill_klpd: Asha's don't run with Meltemi. Elop killed Meltemi before it ever saw the light of birth... :(

Talking about Meltemi and leaks: The only thing I'm really interested in are some pictures or facts about Meltemi ;)

bill_klpd 2014-01-15 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caprico (Post 1406715)
@bill_klpd: Asha's don't run with Meltemi. Elop killed Meltemi before it ever saw the light of birth... :(

Talking about Meltemi and leaks: The only thing I'm really interested in are some pictures or facts about Meltemi ;)

My bad.. Sorry, but I don't really know these os's...

Which one is Asha's by the way??

caprico 2014-01-15 21:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_klpd (Post 1406716)
My bad.. Sorry, but I don't really know these os's...

Which one is Asha's by the way??

Not your fault ;-) It is very confusing since Nokia makes those Asha phones look like they run some sort of MeeGo. But Ashas are actually Series 40-based (exists since 1999).

Meltemi would have been Linux based, like MeeGo. It's also confusing that Elop killed Meltemi but now they make Series 40 look like MeeGo.

But whenever I try to understand Nokia under Elop, my head starts to hurt to much :p

bill_klpd 2014-01-15 21:56

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I remember some s40 some years ago when I was trying to play some java games in it :p

I can't really understand what they are trying to do there in Nokia :p

Can you give me the link(if there is one) about that images of Meltemi you were talking about??

caprico 2014-01-15 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_klpd (Post 1406721)
I remember some s40 some years ago when I was trying to play some java games in it :p

I can't really understand what they are trying to do there in Nokia :p

Can you give me the link(if there is one) about that images of Meltemi you were talking about??

No pictures unfortunately. That's why I wished we would have a Meltemi-leak :) You'll find more about the story on the web or here: http://www.geek.com/mobile/nokia-rep...pment-1505447/

captainofiron 2014-01-15 22:06

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I would like to see Nokia come back after its 2 years of not producing phones with the following lineup

1- entry level phones (dont care about the OS)
2- mid-tier feature phones (forked Android or Asha)
3- maybe a nice/high quality android phone (to make the money on the fandroids)
4- bring back MeeGo/Maemo for the continuance of the N series

sponka 2014-01-15 22:08

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@Half-Life_4_Life -- IIRC Nokia can relase new phones under Nokia brand, but they can't be called Lumia -- it's reserved for win phones.

@captainofiron -- I'd like to see some *quality* phones like E52 was, but with upgraded hw. We have few of them at work and are dying one by one :( Small, fast, simple, true workhorse ...

Half-Life_4_Life 2014-01-15 22:46

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I had the E52 as my first "better phone". :)

And I am not sad at all that now Nokia can't make phones under the Lumia name because that's WP. :P

Well, we just have to wait until MWC, looking forward to that.

Now anything is better than WP for Nokia.

Kangal 2014-01-16 03:12

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I'm not sad at all that Nokias not producing any phones. I am sad that the vision of a Linux distro shipped in the form of a iDevice isn't an option.

Android is great but not what we've been asking for.

DJJonosound 2014-01-16 03:23

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I think at the moment, nokias only choice is android. No one wants wp except ms. Android has a large ecosystem, and Nokia's biggest reputation is hardware quality and design. Lots of android phones lack that. Sadly I think for all Nokia's past OS's, its too late to be revived, the support just isn't there, nor the funding for a large overhaul. Most people would be put off by not being able to change the wallpaper by stock in Harmattan, imagine all of the things that would need to be fixed. I think Nokia's best bet is to go with android for the time being, recover the company (with android), then invest in their own OS's.

But then again that's never going to happen.

Thanks microsoft.

tissot 2014-01-16 03:56

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You can all throw your dreams about Meltemi, MeeGo etc phone from Nokia happening. There's not a single large investor who would want Nokia to throw money at that again and Nokia lives for its investors, like any other company.

Android in a other hand is a great fit. Android is the Windows of today and with all the connected stuff Nokia is planning on cars and likely expanding it to other devices (wearable, accessories?) in a form of Internet of Things, it's a possibility they would expand that line to Android phones. Who knows. Nokia should not care at this point anymore what OS its devices are running on or support.

Also about those pictures, they are from evleaks. I don't know a single picture or rumor from evleaks that didn't end up being true. Evleaks on his last tweet for the first time finally himself said the device is running Android.

I don't doubt the device exists at all. What I'm not sure is what's the idea behind it. Is it Nokia Research project, and so Nokia's own project or it it made by the device unit left to MS? Will it actually get released? It's not totally impossible idea that on the very low end MS could sell forked version of Android, that's UI seems to even have some WP elements, outside the standby screen resembling Swipe UI.
MS after all bought the sharply declining feature phone business. I'm sure MS wants to make money out of it and that likely wont happen with the S40 Asha phones. Though I'm not sure how that would affect MS's Android patent trolling.

juiceme 2014-01-16 06:02

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It is very difficult to say what is never going to happen as opposed to what might realistically happen, but I still think that there's going to be a lot of change before Microsoft will start producing Android devices.

I am not saying it is impossible, just that it goes against the current business model they are trying to run. Hence, I honestly believe this is a hoax.
There existed prototypes for this kind of device, yes, but under the current organization they are never going to make it available to public.

Kangal 2014-01-16 08:53

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I don't think this is a hoax in the least.
I think its a device running the Asha or Meltemi or WebOS or Harmattan... or a hybrid of the two or three or four.

I don't believe its Android.
I believe it is a prototype Nokia was working on to battle Lumia (ironic isn't it) and the Moto G's at the low-end. But it comes as collateral as MS invades into Nokia's business strategy.

Its possible... but much less likely is the fact that this actually runs Android.
It could've been a project Nokia was working on... but an "idea" that's it, not a business strategy they thought that applies to them any time soon.

Half-Life_4_Life 2014-01-16 10:36

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Well, whatever it runs I will be happy about it being not WP.
And IF there are going to be new devices before 2016.

Akkumaru 2014-01-16 11:13

Still don't get this 2016 contract :I

ranbaxy 2014-01-16 17:54

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evleaks: Two ways to interact with Normandy: https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/4...883458/photo/1

Nokia’s Android phone includes Windows Phone-like UI

*_*

olympus 2014-01-16 18:42

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I don't get it, what is this? Is this really a true Nokia phone or just a Microkia (former Nokia mobile division, whatever) phone?

hardy_magnus 2014-01-16 18:57

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wtf, it contains metro ui elements. hell with metro ui, i hate windows phone already.

Half-Life_4_Life 2014-01-16 23:11

Re: Nokia "Normandy"
 
Well that is a well forked Android... You don't even know it is Android.

hardy_magnus 2014-01-17 03:57

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even if it is a well forked android ,it is android (boring) + metro ui(ugly). May be microsoft is promoting its own ui with this fone.

Dave999 2014-01-24 17:06

Re: Nokia "Normandy"
 
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nokia...okia-X_id51746

It's true and It's called.....





Nokia X

captainofiron 2014-01-24 19:00

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Nokia X series comeback?

interesting

wicket 2014-01-24 19:47

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Microsoft makes a shitload of money in compensation from Android devices. It won't hurt them at all to grow the Android ecosystem. This looks to me like a classic example of their embrace, extend, extinguish policy.

[EDIT]I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually a Dalvik VM port to Windows Phone.[/EDIT]


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