Porting Sailfish to Android Devices
 

See this thread for discussion & help/tips about Sailfish for the N9:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761

I thought I'd start this thread as the one concerning port to N9 will lose focus if everyone asks/describes port to every known Android device on planet.
Perhaps should focus on Nexus 4 or 7 for now as there has been some progress here. Anyways, I am not expert on this but hope to learn from you all.
Here is a you tube video for a starter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaVAMGv3tI4 Thanks!

LG Nexus 4/7 Samsung GS3:

What we know:

- Work in progress
- Installation with CyanogeMod and ClockworkMod (Video)
- Video 2
- 02/21/2014 Jolla announce that Sailfish will be available for Android devices on the first half of 2014
- First release for Nexus 4

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Jolla not supporting android phones. Sailfish can be ported to android phones. It's two different things.

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Thank you for the correction. I will edit first post.

EDIT: Appears to not be the case. See a few posts down...

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Would you interpret this as good news or bad news in regards to porting Sailfish on android device? I'm not sure, but it seems like they have a ways to go...

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

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I would say this counts as confirmed good news: https://twitter.com/HarriHakulinen/s...63017555959808

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yep, can follow it here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

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Here is a link to XDA thread that gives the latest work on porting Sailfish to Nexus 4 (with mention to some other devices). According to OP a not fully working (but getting there!) port will be out this week.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexu...xus-4-t2667622

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Might be true. Might not be true. Might be partly true or completely false. It will probably be true but you can't be sure. They might select a target device or join up with a vendor and release a dual boot, might find a buissness model that support it...and/or just release a down loadable rom. Please read below...

From jolla, by jolla and acording to jolla:

"Sailfish OS downloadable to existing Android devices

Sailfish OS has been developed to be compatible with commonly available Android hardware platforms. Due to this advanced technology, Jolla is introducing the Sailfish OS experience as downloadable software to devices running Android OS. Users can soon start to enjoy the modern, gesture based Sailfish OS in selected Android devices and also renew the lifecycle of their existing older Android devices.

The Sailfish community has already ported Sailfish OS into several devices including major versions of popular Samsung Galaxy, Google Nexus, and Sony Xperia. Also, porting for highly popular Chinese Xiaomi products is under work in community projects.

In addition, Jolla is releasing its own Sailfish user interface launcher as an Android application, which can be used to simulate the Sailfish OS experience on Android devices. The app will be available for download in the near future from Jolla.com and from common Android market places.

“We see this as a huge volume opportunity for Sailfish OS as there are close to a billion Android users globally. Many of them are looking for new user experiences to freshen up their existing devices. Last year in China alone, about 100 million devices were re-flashed after the purchase with a new operating system. This approach allows Sailfish OS to scale into volume fast without limitations. This is a scaling opportunity in a similar way as we have seen in the mobile gaming industry recently,” Antti Saarnio, Chairman of the Board of Jolla comments.

Jolla will release the downloadable Sailfish OS software in phases during the first half of 2014. First, the UI launcher application is released so users can start to experience the Sailfish user interface in their existing devices running Android OS. Later Android smartphone users can get the full Sailfish OS to their devices."


Dave999's source:
http://jolla.com/media/documents/MWC...ment_FINAL.pdf

you can't argue facts, right ;) just sit tight and you will be able to download full sailfish OS to android devices...

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Yes. I found it a little confusing in that I thought the launcher was coming out first, then I found the xda post that said the nexus 4 version was coming out this week. I don't mind checking out a new launcher. I currently use 3 that I go between for various reasons. Btw, if you look at the Nexus 7 progress it seems nearly compete and further along than Nexus 4. Would seem to make more sense to release that first... Regardess, I'm still counting down. 20 days until I get my Jolla phone.

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The official "full OS" will be launched after launcher. This week they'll launch the unfinished version for early adopters

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If true this is not so good...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/joll...ssue-t2694127f

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Could this eventually work on my decrepit Samsung Galaxy Player 3.6? It runs Android 2.3 gingerbread and I think Sailfish could possible make it a more usable device again.

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Expected.but bad either way. Exactly how bad depends on how jolla can get native app support.

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Meh I'd rather developers jump in and start programming for Sailfish, people say Ubuntu is going to blow Sailfish out of the water, but two things:

A. they don't have a phone...
B. there also using Qt so when Ubuntu does finally arrive at the party everybody benefits.

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From this post by flotron on xda it says

"Jolla will launch soon a "hardware adaptation development kit". So anyone can start porting their own Android version.
Only requirement: support CyanogenMod 10.1 or higher (source: IRC)"

So you'll have to determine if your device supports, at minimum, CyanogenMod 10.1.

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To me, the biggest advantage that Ubuntu has over Sailfish is name recognition and that it tries to directly link to its desktop distribution. It would be great if Sailfish or Sailfish launcher could be modified to doubly serve as phone etc. and a desktop environment for, say, Debian that runs on phone and tablet and desktop. @qole you still out there?

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And the fact that they have a huge pile to burn money any way they would like to do... :D


Unfortunately Debian is not possible, it would have to be some RPM-based distribution.

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Thanks. RPM is fine with me I have Fedora on my Galaxy Note 3!

Btw folks. Time to go to work!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/joll...9/post51417864

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I failed miserably at my first try :( But I will be back...

Big thanks to Carsten Munk (Stskeeps) and SailfishOS for Android devices team. Plus a huge thanks to daycrawler for sharing.

Edit/ Why the watermark? Please rem8ve...in next update.

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Had a debate with one of the lead editors @ArsTechnica, it was mind-numbing...
The main rationale he used for why they rarely cover sailfish but cover ubuntu touch heaps (even compared to the 3x main OS's) basically came down to:

(oversimplifying what he said somewhat).

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Love your debates. Please tell me all about...Why not get a nexus and install sail?

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he aka fanboy

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Anyone tried this on any other device? Nexus7?

Make this great and sail can blow out of proportion in no time.

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Understandable... they don't want anybody posting screenshots of work in progress without "forcing" them to show it's work in progress - the email to early adopters mentions that you should make it very clear that this is probably a pre-alpha image.

I had a go at it (thanks sledges) and the watermark really doesn't intrude so much ;-)

EDIT: FWIW, I've already seen somebody mentioned this as a RC, and it isn't a RC.

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I would love to have sailfish on my nexus 7!!!

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Yes. I'm not so interested in nexus 4 but I'm now definitely in the market for a nexus 7. Indeed if you check here (from earlier post)

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

It really appears as if Nexus 7 is farther along. Anyone have an idea when sailfish will be released for Nexus 7?

Another piece of good news is it looks like volume +- is working for Nexus 4 which was not the case a few days ago.

Cheers everyone. Exciting times ahead!

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I'd suggest try CyanogenMod 10.1 on the nexus 7 and any other thing you want to run Sailfish on, and then wait for the HADK.

I'm marginally happy for Jolla to have achieved this, just hope this doesn't suck up too many resources from proper Sailfish development, and even Jolla hardware.

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the s3 lte will be a good phone if sailfish will have all the drivers

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Who cares what it is. It is what it is. Not more not less. Guess it possible to remove. I like my devices want to run with it. It's not nice. Bloat.

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Well, you may be pretty understanding of the level at which software is released at its different evolving stages, however, some (most?) people aren't.
If it so happens that the watermark can be removed and then some fanboi/fandroid site publishes videos of a pre-alpha Sailfish, affecting Jolla's image, then we won't get any more pre-alpha stuff to test.

Remember: because some people are naughty, we can't have good things (like bringing your own bottle of water to the airport). So, I hope it isn't removable :-)

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This is what i just read: Yes, jolla users are more stupid than the rest of the sw componies users... ;)

I just hope its gone soon. No Point of discussions this issue futher. Lets agree to dissagree.

Lets try to use IT, hack IT, break IT and make IT. Stskeeps...use the source and leak the force.

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/g...13020f9c02.jpg

I'm waiting for the next update. It will be Epic.

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Can anybody tell if the Fingerterm that comes with the Nexus 4 image is the same as the Jolla one? If it's different, can anybody try if copy/paste works in both directions? :-)

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about nexus 7

https://twitter.com/AnttiSaarnio/sta...67194902032384

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Stop torturing me. I want it!

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Motorola photon is propably the best new phone with keyboard on the market (using some mod or there is a lot of guys doing it for 40 Eur, it can be changed for changeable SIM).

I am still waiting for sailfish to be able install on this phone.
I Need some replacement for my nokia n900 and combo photon+sailfish is now the only one alternative.

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lovely, but it makes me want a full landscape mode on the jollaphone as well as tablet sized form factors.

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will release someday the instructions or this will be like dalvik on n900 ?
maybe release for the phones demoed , something? hello jolla

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Do I understand what you are saying? No. Sailfish for Androi. Didn't gave the boost I expected. Sail still stumble in the dark.

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When will this hardware adaption kit be available...before next week?

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Well, it will probably be a long time till Sailfish is ported to the Galaxy Note 3 (If ever...) So for now I've copied an ambience wallpaper from my Jolla phone to my GN3 and set some swipe gestures to be similar. Like swiping to right from top 1/3 left edge takes me to recent apps (I know not the same as running apps...), swiping up gets me to app drawer. Also added swiping from mid 1/3 left edge to return to home. Swipe left from right side mid 1/3 to bring up contacts and so forth. It will do for now...