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endsormeans 2014-02-02 20:09

http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
The title says it all.

edit: Others have just brought this to my attention. I am curious...I didn't know this going to be shut down...
Was there mention somewhere that skeiron was going to be closed down?
-EorM

nieldk 2014-02-02 20:45

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

This maemo.org page got discontinued, please call your local Nokia customer care. (http://www.nokia.com/support/)
10 chars ............

sixwheeledbeast 2014-02-02 23:24

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1410512)
I didn't know this going to be shut down...
Was there mention somewhere that skeiron was going to be closed down?

skeiron has no affiliation to maemo.org

We should concentrate on tablets-dev.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=13

http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclo...01-21T22:32:52

endsormeans 2014-02-02 23:52

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Hmm ...after looky-looing around and reading reading reading....I see the issue is bigger than simply the skeiron mirror.

macexplorer 2014-02-04 12:51

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1410543)
skeiron has no affiliation to maemo.org

yes, but is skeiron related to Nokia?
I assumed this site was probably from one of the devs here.

both tablets-dev and skeiron going down is quite bad..

sixwheeledbeast 2014-02-04 16:10

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macexplorer (Post 1410839)
yes, but is skeiron related to Nokia?
I assumed this site was probably from one of the devs here.

both tablets-dev and skeiron going down is quite bad..

skeiron is unaffiliated and we shouldn't expect it to reappear.

The important issue is Nokia has removed tablets-dev and will probably soon do the same to downloads.maemo.nokia.com/

shawnjefferson 2014-02-05 02:45

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Seems there are two options:

1. Bug Nokia and hope (probably in vain) that they will bring up these resources again, or perhaps Hildon Foundation acquires the rights to host these resources themselves.

2. Someone sets up an unofficial mirror and these files are available via the "grey net".

thedead1440 2014-02-05 04:14

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
1) HiFo won't be given the rights AFAIK.

2) Remember its Microsoft who will now be going after the host not Nokia so the usual T&Cs apply...

woody14619 2014-02-05 18:38

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1411034)
Remember its Microsoft who will now be going after the host not Nokia so the usual T&Cs apply...

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Nokia has their own butt to cover as well. There are third parties (Adobe, TI, and others) that would be less likely to sign on to future deals if Nokia doesn't follow up on their side of legal obligations. Also, those third parties themselves could go after things themselves. That's always been a concern, and will continue to be.

Astaoth 2014-02-11 19:34

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
I don't understand : who was in charge of skeiron.org ?
I've seen, on skeiron.org, there were mirrors of other repositories, and not only the ones from Nokia, so it's shouldn't be related to Nokia.

Now that it's down, is there an other way to download deb files of applications that can be found only on the Ovi Store ?
And how can I do a mirror of the Nokia repositories ?

mikecomputing 2014-02-11 19:51

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astaoth (Post 1412290)
I don't understand : who was in charge of skeiron.org ?
I've seen, on skeiron.org, there were mirrors of other repositories, and not only the ones from Nokia, so it's shouldn't be related to Nokia.

Now that it's down, is there an other way to download deb files of applications that can be found only on the Ovi Store ?
And how can I do a mirror of the Nokia repositories ?

You cant mirror it that would be illegal. There are rules whatever we like it or not.

My N9 has no harmattan anymore since I could reflash it because site down. Now I use sailfishos on it instead.

Astaoth 2014-02-11 20:14

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1412295)
You cant mirror it that would be illegal. There are rules whatever we like it or not.

I want to mirror only legal things, like free Ovi applications, or Fremantle Nokia repositories.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1412295)
My N9 has no harmattan anymore since I could reflash it because site down. Now I use sailfishos on it instead.

Oh it's nice it works on the N9. Does it works on N900 to ?

sixwheeledbeast 2014-02-11 20:43

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
As I have said before...
We need to worry about tablets-dev, not skeiron or mirroring things.

Anything maemo.org doesn't have available is because they can't.

Astaoth 2014-02-11 22:15

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
So the only thing we can do is to spam Nokia Support about files on tablets-dev ? And what can we do for download.nokia.com and the Ovi Store ?

macexplorer 2014-02-12 18:25

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1412295)
My N9 has no harmattan anymore since I could reflash it because site down. Now I use sailfishos on it instead.

You can still reflash the n9. There are sites that link back to nokia for the flashable bins. Get yours before they fully disappear for good.
I just posted a link recently in another thread.

but..totally out of context..
how is the jolla experience on n9?
my current n9 stays on harmattan. if i manage to get another, then will try out jolla for sure.

macexplorer 2014-02-12 18:31

Re: http://skeiron.org is down 3 days+ ...what exactly is going on?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astaoth (Post 1412290)
Now that it's down, is there an other way to download deb files of applications that can be found only on the Ovi Store ?
And how can I do a mirror of the Nokia repositories ?

A possible workaround could be to recreate deb files from pkgs already installed on your phone. and back them up, for reinstallation later. (worth a try i guess)

am going to try dpkg-repack for n900
(it probably needs an ext4 partition with good amount of free space, to get the perms correct. will be trying this later)

On n9, the N9 tweaks helps to recreate the debs.


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