new nokia n900 wont pwr on| Its Alive!
 

Hello, I am new but have been reading and looking for files to download ie flasher and firmware but does not seem to be good archive of files around almost all links are bad or information is incomplete.

main reason why I am posting and I apologize to mods if this is not right place for this post. I just got a Brand new Nokia N900 from Hong Kong. It will not power on. I dont know if it needs to be on fully to charge. ac adapter and another usb cable would not keep the yellow charge light blinking. get the micro usb B connector half way installed to n900 usb B port the charge light flashes then goes away. both ac adapter and cable works fine with my jabra cruiser 2 but n900 no go.
I tried the usb computer cable cord that came with the phone and hooked it up to the computer it gets the yellow charge light blinking constantly fully plugged in. charge light blinks away with one specific cable for half hour then turns off no green light or other color. If I unplug the cable plug it back in it will blink away for half hour then stop.

I read someone recommended flashing the n900 but when I hold u button and plug the usb cable in nothing happens.

raised dispute on ebay about it being defective. anyone have any suggestions or is this thing DOA toast.

also if anyone knows of a good place to get flash files I would be greatfull.

appreciate any help

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As far as firmware and the necessary flashers .....you'll have to post it and ask around here..and get it from a fellow member ...for the time being anyway.
Concerning your problems with the device itself...
Not that you will enjoy hearing it buuuutttt...
I'd hazard that you haven't really read through the forums here on the problems with these n900's from asia ...have you?
In my humble opinion you should have come to the forums 1st ...posted some questions regarding the asian knockoffs ...and asked some folks whether it was a good idea 1st. I would have been one of the many voices trying to dissuade you from purchasing the fraudulent device.
Even the seeming best auctions on say...ebay ...you have to be cautious that you are going to get a fully functioning n900 with usb port intact....let alone the slew of other possible probs that a legit device may have over time that isn't mentioned by the seller.
But most certainly these "brand new" n900's from asia tend to be nice casing with nothing but problems inside.
Nobody else has said it yet ...and I really hate to but I think you were taken....the buy and sell here at maemo.org has genuine users with genuine devices for sale ...them you can trust...your fellow members...they won't steer you wrong....elsewhere you take your chances with sellers you don't know....who don't care about their reputation or their standing with fellow members like we do here.
My best suggestion at this point would be...grab a camera....take the back off the n900 and take some nice detailed photos...post them here...and lets see what the insides look like.....there are a few people here that know exactly what may have been tampered with or what internals have been replaced with phoney parts or parts actually made for other devices.....and then take it from there...that is the best I can suggest.

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thanks for replying. the seller had a good rep. I have read about NOKLA knockoffs but never saw the N900 mentioned. that said my reading load lately has been a little heavy been working on a neglected open moko neo freerunner with bad battery.

the N900 I got was in a nice box the manual was a bit beat otherwise the phone looks brand new had protective plastic on the camera and back of the lcd compartment. I am in dispute with the seller at the moment and dont want to take it apart not that I dont have the tools and information to do that. Doing another search looks like I didnt search hard enough.

I have previously bought some Sony Ericsson w810i's from Hong Kong with good results.

I am well aware of the usb port problem hard to read this website and not notice it.

doing some more searching and reading. the box looks legit the tag on it is different than one posted in this forum but not too suspisious. it came with a AC-10U ac adapter and the computer usb cable looks legit. If it was a knock off I doubt someone would go out of theyre way to get official accessories then again the AC-10U is made in china though the USB computer cable says its made in Thailand. Battery has the hologram though seen lots of chinese knockoffs on ebay though dont know if they have some around with hologram nokia stickers with serial number.

I am frustrated thats for sure. wonder if this brick would work for Neo900. One reason why I am interested in Nokia N900, upgrade coming though learning what I have I wonder about the battery life of a Neo900.

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NokLa? Is that like a chinese knockoff or a typo? Because it seems pretty obvious that it's a fake if it's not made by Nokia. And people put real cables and stuff to make it seem better than it is (I have bought fake phones before, it sucks, I know).

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not a type and I believe that is chinese knockoff though I didnt read that N900 was among them. thought I read about NokLa searching around talk.maemo.org. you never heard of NokLa? or you forget the sarcastic smiley?

I wonder if this is karma hitting me for getting a used se w810i for less than $10 including shipping sold as water damaged spare parts missing the battery door and coming with a dead battery then turning out to be fully functional with a good battery. :eek:

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I've only bought 1 unlocked nokia (The others were from AT&T), and it works fine, and isn't fake. So, I've never really seen many fake Nokias (although there's no doubt in my mind that they exist)

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The problem might be that the phone if faulty and you are out of luck, or that the battery has gone absolutely flat or is faulty and won't charge because of that.

You could try to charge the battery on external charger or compatible nokia dumbphone. Or try to search the forum for other solutions on flat or faulty battery problems. If you have multimeter (voltmeter) you could check if the battery is good. Removing the battery does not require tools and is meant to be done by the user as the sim-card holder is under the battery.

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I dont have a external charger yet.

The box and phone has id's that claim to be made in Finland and after research it sounds like some N900's were made in Finland but I believe the bulk were made in South Korea.

I dont have firmware and not sure completely on flashing but the phone doesnt respond when having battery installed and plugging the usb cable in while holding the U key.

outside of tearing into this phone I dont believe there is much difference from a fake and real deal externally.

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You don't have to tear into the phone.
If you are lucky it is simply the battery.
The slider on the side allows the back cover to pop off.
Take off the back .
Take out the battery.
Even if there was nothing wrong with your device you would end up doing this anyway eventually.
Sooner than you think.
Set the phone on it's face.
Take good close up pictures with a camera.
Upload them here.
It will be obvious to some...possibly many here if it has been tampered ...is a flat out fake...or is genuine.

If you want more than speculation we will need something more concrete to work with.

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Here are some pics got 1 more. only had a 2mp camera phone to take them with.

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last pic took me while to get text on this one readable.

wish I had a decent camera to do that and its late I am tired and frustraded.

the usb port on the n900 I received has issues with 1 out of 3 cables I have tried. 1 a lg usb to usb micro b the other is the AU-10U ac adapter. the supplied nokia usb to micro b connector works, well atleast makes the charge light flash repeatedly for half hour.

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Well from a cursory glance it appears genuine...but that is just that a glance..the plate with your info looks genuine. Hm
Now I do admit that perhaps taking the board out and giving her a once over may seem extreme ...but if you know how to do it ...it isn't a big deal...it may net more info...there are how to's on youtube etc..that show if you are leery of doing it without a visual guide.
But perhaps 1st.... an Ock. check. (Ockham's razor checklist ...that is :D )

Let's run on the best assumption 1st... the battery.

1- Get your hands on a tester ...see if it holds the charge or any charge at all. If it doesn't ...hopefully problem solved. Get a genuine n900 battery (best solution) or an alternative compatible brand that has had extensive testing here in the forums.
You would end up buying another even if the battery was fine. A backup battery or 10 never hurt :D

2- It is/ isn't just the battery... it is the cable you are using...
It may be possible to rule that out since you tried the proper cable.
(I do suggest using the approved parts and acces. and alternates that have been extensively tested here....using random untested cables or methods can have unpleasant effects.) Using those other cables may have toasted the battery...so that is the unknown at that point.

3- Not fun...it is the usb port. Hence some of the charge oddness (though I really hope it is just the battery)
It can be re-soldered ...that is the good news. there are how to's

4- It is the battery and /or the cable and / or the usb or it is none of the above....

5- Which could W.C.S. (worst case scenario) lead you into the possibility of fun with something really not good going on internally.

There are the potentials ...the known isn't so daunting as the unknown...unless I forgot something that is :D

This is in my very humble estimation what you are looking at all tolled.
Not a lost cause ...just a puzzle to figure out.

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I tested the 2 cables I have and ac adapter that came with the n900 they work fine with my jabber cruiser 2. usb port definitely seems to have a issue. Talked with the seller and I will be shipping it back for refund, though will wait a couple days got 2 batteries and a stand alone charger coming hopefully they get here in day at most 2.

all the usb micro b male adapters had the hooks filed down so I didnt damage the usb port on the n900 I got. Again tested my jabber's usb micro b port and work fine with it. :confused:

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Fake. As far as I know, no N900 made in Finland were released to general public. 98% of TMO folks got it made in Korea.
You could check by imei as well.

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Found a thread on the subject of imei and manufacture location the imei info posted is same as the imei for what I have. If I could find a number to reach Nokia and confirm this phones origin or legitimacy I would.

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Just check it here http://imei.info
Normally it gives you an exhaustive information about a device.

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imei came up as Nokia N900

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I think charging the battery externally is your best bet. If that doesn't work I bet it is toast. I had an N900 die under warranty. The N900s really don't like losing all power while running. That's how mine died. Nokia eventually replaced it.
I still have two, but only use one occasionally as a media device. I need to sell one. I guess I can't wipe it since the firmwares are not available anymore?

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I have some brand new bl-5j batteries and am happy to sell it to you at a fair price. PM me if you're interested.

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I had the same problem on my 2nd device that hadn't been used for 6 months. Orange led blinks when the usb cable is half in but wouldn't charge. Swapped batteries and it was fine.

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did you crack open your n900 and check the usb port?

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No need to, phone is charging fine. Just a dead battery.

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I received my 2 batteries and standalone charger today.
I got the phone to turn on with new battery and entered settings like time,date.

phone seems to be charging with ac adapter ac-10u now.
put battery that came with phone in standalone charger. definite difference from the 2 new batteries I got today and battery that came with phone.

I was planning on sending the phone back and I still may. I implore you folks to please help me put this phone through its paces and make sure everything works. I am probably going to pull a all nighter putting this phone through its paces and searching this forum for info.

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Woo-hoo! good news! Just the battery (so far...hopefully that is the end of that )
Ach! Charge it up with one of the 2 new batteries that you got...and then take it from there...If it is just the battery that came with your n900...I wouldn't send it back if it were me.
Think of it this way...it isn't an easy thing to find a good n900 in good shape. You say you know little about the platform or device. You say you wanted it in the 1st place for understanding and getting the neo900.
Well...you now have (hopefully) a fully functioning n900....sending it back will get your money back...but will not help you to understand the device better...
If it were myself...I'd keep it...learn maemo5 on it...and (if you have put your money down for a neo900) when it is time to decide whether or not to buy the whole neo900 ready to go..or save a couple hundred...and just get the neo900 board...swap out the n900 board for the new neo900 and away you go...as a topper you always have the old n900 board for ...whatever...as a backup in case something goes wonky with your neo900...or to experiment with...or turn it into a necklace ...a little chunky...but fits with the modern fashion :D

As far as help goes....this is very helpful.

http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup

Past that...read...read...read...try some stuff...if something doesn't work a couple times ...shout ...and hopefully someone will be able to help with the specific prob.

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i haven"t seen a dead battery yet , if is fully discharged ,remove battery , connect n900 to pc via usb , wait for the led , insert battery and leave it to charge, by some reason if battery is depleted n900 won"t charge it in other way.
It took me a while to find that

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tried that would not work. light blinked for 30-45 minutes then would stop. I have that battery in standalone charger at moment.

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battery took a while to charge but its alive.
tested:
bluetooth
gps
wifi
phone
both camera's and got flashlight app for led lights,very handy
keyboard lights up and works disabled that hand shake video
fm tuner works though not very well.

appreciate any helpfull suggestions.

one thing I have had to configure the clock and calender every time I take the battery out. apologize for posting previous 2 lines
search function on talk.maemo.org is not working for me, googled it got maemo.org threads and even a poll found on the subjection.

I love the OS very user friendly.

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Search for pirogi, mpd, bluemaemo ,ps3 sixaxis etc depending on your devices available in your home . Enjoy ..... Just dont forget to update your phone to cssu i would suggest you cssu thumb asap.

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I could do the cssu thumb but I dont have files to reflash my n900 if it goes wrong. Though I will get to that asap.

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yeah had to google search it for some reason the forums search engine does not like the keywords "battery time date" for me would give me a empty page. tried submitting a bug report. is there a list of mods or admins around?

appreciate the replies from everyone if I missed a thank pm me

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i dont think anythimg bad gona happen to your n900 after updating to latest thumb oth it should be the first thing to do on a fresh n900 .just backup in case and flashfiles are available in the web:)

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CSSU warned me of boot loop. I would like to get the flash images on my pc before I run into a problem. My goal today is to find them. I kinda go along the motto of better to have and not need than to need and not have. when something could go wrong.

I have no intention of taking the screen protector off, specially with the sharp touch pen sure that would scratch screen up good. according to my phone I have PR1.3.1 installed.

btw a simple app I found is called flashlight, it turns the led lights on used for camera flash.

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The flashlight app is a natural battery sucker....so do not be surprised if you end up charging often.