Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Hi all!

I want upgrade my N900, and see two ways:

1) buy used Nokia N950. Budget... aproximility, $700 (may be more, if phone is new).

2) buy used dirkvl-maked qwerty keyboard half + new JollaPhone.

Budget to half, aprroximility $250


I understand, it is a bad price to way number one, but I have budget limits, and Jolla Phone with HW keyboard is better choice than N950, and $250+$400=$650 - less of N950.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

You wouldn't do yourself a favor with the N950. It's such a bad piece of hardware that Nokia didn't even dare to sell it. And it's totally overpriced on the markets, just because of being rare.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

+1

Your third (and maybe the only real) alternative for replacing N900 is Neo900

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Thank you very much for answers,

Neo900 is very slooooow phone. I don't undrestand resons to change N900 to Neo900.
It will be never use 2-cores CPU, like Jolla Phone.
Hardware Hacking (USB host and another features of Neo900) not for me, I intresting software hacking.
I want open platform with open source and modificating code, totaling bash/python scripting, like my N900, and hardware keyboard to save time in subway (writing big e-mails, posting on forums, some of coding)

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

and, Debian or Ubuntu works in N900 slower than Maemo.
I think, really comfort of use Neo900 with Debian is very low.

I think, Ubuntu Mobile can be good choice, but it is'nt ported to Android keyboard smartphones :(

May be, Gentoo will be work fine on Neo900, but it is need more time to install and optimize software(more dificult than x86, I use gentoo in laptop). It will be intresting, but not sure I am have at this time.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Yes.Absolutely true.
@shaggy_cat: How do you think/know that Neo900 will be slow phone? :confused:


Also that is true.
Despite those arguments I would not give mine away for 1000$/€/£ !

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

It use 1 core old CPU, 512Mb RAM (may be!!! 1Gb). Is another reasons to change from N900 to Neo900?

I don't use IR, USB host, but want buy Pebble smart watch: is solutions to Jolla and N950, no solutions to Neo900.

My phone work fine with overclocking CPU to 800Mhz(1Ghz of Neo900 not large difference), but it is have less RAM, and some time freezing becouse iowait (D state).

And, Neo900 is include not optimization software....

Ubuntu and Debian, recompile to Armel, work on my N900 veryyyy slooooow (but some times I use it, becouse need OpenOffice or Gimp).

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

FYI, Jolla device has 2 cores but it currently only uses just one core, and does very well with that one, thank you :D


You just described Neo900 :D

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Who told you that? I think, it's plain wrong, as you can easily see with "top" on the device.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

OT but sorry, I'm NeoFanatic.

Neo900 is very slooooow phone.

There is not even one complete-prototype of Neo900, which kind of black-magic have you used? ;)

It's at least 3 times (well, 4+ times if 1GB will become true) faster than N900, which is still (mine is) quite usable (even the browser is). It's the only choice for hackers (in all senses of this word) & long-term N900 users.

But I don't want to convince you to buy it, I just don't want others think it's slow, when no-one have ever seen it (if we are not talking about proto-boards).

If you want pseudo-linux-device with some MeeGo smell, go Jolla. If you don't insist on MeeGo-like UI/UX, I see no reason why not Android (Motorola Droid or something like that, if you want keyboard).

PS: N950 is not a good idea. Dead. Unsupported. Overpriced.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Jolla has some blobs, but it is optimise for mobile usage, and inside normal linux like N900 (it's too has some blobs).
For python/c++/QML/QT/comand line develop, of cource.

But I never try write code to GTK. Is only problem of porting Maemo/Meego software, or I don't understand any critical mean?

Is any way to try new Neo900 software in chroot in N900?

And i has additional reason: I want use smartphone with pebble smar****ch, and write some aplication for myself, may be, for another peoples(for example, Zabbix/Nagios integration notification, todo application with sync of Google mail).
May be, i can write integration between Neo900 and Pebble, but... It very difficult, i think! All my code less 1000-1500 strings by project.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Why not get a OpenPandora instead? Was my idea of getting one too but I decided to get a full blown (and rugged!) laptop instead.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Wow! Don't know about it! Most intresting project, long years life to it, and good second version (after company fix problem of first peoples, buy device in pre-order.)

But... It is no smartphone :(

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

I can be mistake about speed Neo900, Jolla Phone.

juiceme, are you sure, Sailfish OS not SMP for all process?
If I understand correctly after read 2 pages of topic, we can swithch on by /sys fs second core (or by sysctl.conf)

And, I am very thankful to lexik and NeoFanatic, but default debian (LXDE, XFCE DE, Openbox without LXDE, very slow and uncomfortable to usage in N900. Is any optimization (daemons, DE) to Debian distro to Neo900?

Is in this topic a good developers? With good skill? Can you help and ask, how do you think, can I (i'm work UNIX administrator, search work of DevOps now) wrote integration beetween Peble and Neo900?
I have little skill with python (my patch apply to Cobbler project, part of RedHat Sattelite Server), and PHP (wrote webface to support departament). Also I wrote some of little (use for myself) application, use PyQT and bash to N900. I can wrote calculator and some no difficult code with c/c++ But i never take money of my coding.

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

Well, it this infinite world, nothing can be certain, but W00t said that SailfishOS runs most of the time with single core, the second one only switched on when needed.

I think it is OK, shows just how well built Sailfish is as it can perform well on low-end HW...

Re: Wanted: QWERTY keyboard for Jolla phone or N950
 

About Neo900 distro: http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-rootfs/

I can't find information how it is install in chroot. It's can't run from SD card on N900.

Is any way to try it on phone (no SDK?)