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szopin 2014-09-10 13:50
WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Jolla is too busy implementing:

Easily switch between open Android apps in the homescreen by tapping on their respective active covers i.e they are no longer grouped into one cover (experimental 1)
Add shortcuts to webpages in the app launcher area
Set separate synchronization schedules per mail account
Upload multiple files via Browser and be able to filter files by file type during file selection
Define email signature and sender name per account
Save unsent messages as drafts when messages app is pushed to background
Search word auto-completion in Jolla Store
Use stroke input method for writing in Chinese
Define an end date when creating/modifying recurring calendar events
Artist search support in Media player

10 months on and still no keyboard in sight, no support for actual linux apps (hey, go rewrite gnumeric instead of complaining). Going back to my trusty n900, where I can 'make && run' pretty much everything I want, I can live with it taking 5 seconds longer and not having the uberawesomely cool UX (yay, newer glibc/kernel thanks to android compatibility still sucks ***, we love the green/red leds blinkenlights even on bloody single app open - browser).

No scratches, just tears/blood, but wiped

chenliangchen 2014-09-10 15:27
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
I'm about to sell the same actually... Almost a year but nothing is greatly improved or implemented, still no official keyboard news. OS is still beta, HW is outdated, poor screen and camera. Nokia X2 has almost same spec and better screen (even with lower res) but less than half price of Jolla and they actually do the same job now. I had enough...

pichlo 2014-09-10 17:52
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
What is your (plural) asking price?

I always wanted to try a Jolla but not enough to consider it worth anywhere near the full new price.

chenliangchen 2014-09-10 21:37
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1438829)
What is your (plural) asking price?

I always wanted to try a Jolla but not enough to consider it worth anywhere near the full new price.
Are you based in UK? I want to get rid of mine as well - with the first one, white, black and aloe (all official) TOH. Are you interested?;)

pichlo 2014-09-11 08:08
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1438850)
Are you based in UK? [...] Are you interested?;)
Yes and yes, provided the price is interesting*).

*) That is, less than a half of a new one from Amazon. Is that realistic? Jolla is still not old enough and there are still not enough used ones around for a real price drop.

NokiaFanatic 2014-09-11 09:41
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
szopin - you sound frustrated, I hope maybe you give this a little thought and reconsider. While it is your prerogative to return to using the N900, that device, and the community around it is slow dying as devices break and people move on. Right now, Jolla looks to be the best option in having a true Linux style smartphone and unless it gets supported, it will die and down the road, we're going to be stuck with just Android and IOS.

chenliangchen 2014-09-11 10:44
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1438875)
Yes and yes, provided the price is interesting*).

*) That is, less than a half of a new one from Amazon. Is that realistic? Jolla is still not old enough and there are still not enough used ones around for a real price drop.
I plan to start with £150 (£140 for the device, as you said half price, plus £10 for the rest TOHs) bidding on eBay.

I had a re-consider when I saw the last post but think that my call history and message was lost twice for no reason and Chinese input method never improved since initial release, I pass.

(Sadly those official TOHs are no more than just changing colours, so I bought 4 colours genuine battery cover for my Nokia X2 and I can also change the bloody colours everyday, and they are less than half price of Jolla TOHs again...)

fk_lx 2014-09-11 11:16
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1438883)
szopin - you sound frustrated, I hope maybe you give this a little thought and reconsider. While it is your prerogative to return to using the N900, that device, and the community around it is slow dying as devices break and people move on. Right now, Jolla looks to be the best option in having a true Linux style smartphone and unless it gets supported, it will die and down the road, we're going to be stuck with just Android and IOS.
Android is Linux and AOSP is more open than Sailfish (Sailfish has both most of hw adaption and most of UI, including Silica components closed). Also Ubuntu Touch is in RTM state and probably will soon hit physical devices and next month there will be Samsung Gear S smar****ch with phone functionality running on Tizen (in addition to other Tizen smar****ch available devices already).

marmistrz 2014-09-11 15:06
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Android is only Linux-based, it doesn't even have a normal glibc. You can't do normal C++ apps there (no std::string, for example) In Sailfish at least you have the normal core, you can theoretically run anything (supposing you have the needed libraries).

But yes, I'm disappointed as well. Even no option to disable wifi automatically after getting out of range. No XWayland and solely comments "it ain't for touchscreens". No hwkb. Official TOHs bring no functionality. (we've got themes for it, we don't need TOHs). No flashing. And functionality szopin refers to should be there from the beginning! No one needs a half-baked product.

Neo900 would be the device of our dreams but the price is a major blocker.

fk_lx 2014-09-11 15:38
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1438912)
Android is only Linux-based
It depends how you look - you could also say that Sailfish is only Linux-based. There is no such thing like a "normal Linux". Every operating system based on Linux kernel can be called Linux (distribution).

marmistrz 2014-09-11 16:36
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
But any sane Linux distribution support sane C++ (not crappy Android NDK), has some sane package management (Android has apks). Btw. Android's kernel is far away from upstream.

dirkvl 2014-09-11 16:40
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
is the intention still to sell or just a rant?

a cancel on that solartoh then?

edit: this thread is dead in the water
http://media.giphy.com/media/5x89XRx3sBZFC/giphy.gif

pichlo 2014-09-11 18:02
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1438889)
I plan to start with £150 (£140 for the device, as you said half price, plus £10 for the rest TOHs) bidding on eBay.

I had a re-consider when I saw the last post but think that my call history and message was lost twice for no reason and Chinese input method never improved since initial release, I pass.
Sorry, I am confused now. Are you selling? What's that about eBay? Is it (going to be) listed there?

Amazon's £279 includes free shipping. If your £150 does too, then I'll bite.

chenliangchen 2014-09-13 16:46
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1438931)
Sorry, I am confused now. Are you selling? What's that about eBay? Is it (going to be) listed there?

Amazon's £279 includes free shipping. If your £150 does too, then I'll bite.
My plan was £150 on eBay, if no bids then it's of course yours. I though this was fair for both...

Dave999 2014-09-13 16:52
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Give IT to pichlo. He really need a jPhone to learn something about the Phone.

chenliangchen 2014-09-13 16:58
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1439122)
Give IT to pichlo. He really need a jPhone to learn something about the Phone.
Fair enough... I'm contacting him now...

Edit: Sent.

pichlo 2014-09-13 18:26
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
PM received and answered. To clarify, 'need' was Dave's initiative and is too strong a word. I may 'want' one but I do not really 'need' one. I never asked Dave to plead on my behalf. So please do not feel obliged to sell to me, feel free to list on eBay where it might fetch you more than my budget allows.

Dave999 2014-09-13 20:26
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1439130)
PM received and answered. To clarify, 'need' was Dave's initiative and is too strong a word. I may 'want' one but I do not really 'need' one. I never asked Dave to plead on my behalf. So please do not feel obliged to sell to me, feel free to list on eBay where it might fetch you more than my budget allows.
Damn straight .

chenliangchen 2014-09-15 17:39
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Deal done with pichlo. I'm sure he will make much more use of the device than I do. :)

Dave999 2014-09-15 17:59
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1439321)
Deal done with pichlo. I'm sure he will make much more use of the device than I do. :)
Excellent!

pichlo 2014-09-16 18:40
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1439321)
Deal done with pichlo.
That's right. I am now a proud owner of a nearly new Jolla. It was a pleasure doing business with you.

Phone arrived today. It looks luverly. Sadly I did not have much time to play with it yet but I am sure I will.

Dave999 2014-09-16 20:19
Re: WTS Jolla + be the first one OH + cameleon OH (with wireless charging) + pink OH + non-working HWKBOH (and soon + SolarOH)
 
Great, i just sold my first jPhone. Im a jPimp.


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