What will happen after 2036?
 

I was flashing my N900 today, while setting up the time & date at the first boot, i noticed the last year in the scrollable select box is 2036. It made me think about the future, what if my N900 survives up to the december 2035? Then how will i continue using it? Like mayan calendar's 2012, will there be any consequences?

:p :D :)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

This is definately Coundown material. Dave999. Are you within earshot?

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

I'd imagine it will work just fine like so many other examples... setting the time back and carrying on.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

set it at max and wait a day? (hopefully this will not accelerate the apocalypse, fingers crossed)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Haha great idea. Lemme try setting it up to the max tonight. If world doesn't end, i'll post tomorrow. ;)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

So many examples? Do you have any devices which have maximum year already passed to set? Maybe old cellphones of motorola have crossed the max possible limit. Just curious.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

on a more serious note, they could've upped it to 2037 without risking someone going over unix y2k problem accidentally (or y38 is the preffered name?), might need to wait a year and 19 days to see any averse effects

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Please do not do this! You are meddling with the forces of Nature!

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Yess, Y38 is more appropriate even stated by wikipedia. I was unaware of this problem. But found this article. Our N900 Is 32 bit, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

unix timeout and goes backward....

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

I am. I think the we need a countdown. I Will see if i can get admin to set IT up a community countdown. Fear that all maemodevices Will transform into smoke machines and finally explode. You remember Y2K...right.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Way ahead of you:
http://www.y2038.com/
(upper right corner)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

well a calendar is much different than the internal "tick-tock" that is counting down rather than counting "continuance" so-to-speak.
"Calendrical" countdowns don't really exist either. The mayan (as well as other mathematical calendars) simply doesn't end. Going out of sync is likely . Reset may be necessary. Basing a calender on heavenly bodies moving is pretty exacting. Cogs within cogs...and all that...like clockwork gears. 2012 isn't actually the end of anything. Just a herald ...to a new tick-tock-ing. 'tween 2012 and 202? (can't recall exact year) allll the ancient mathematical calendars end (for reset and recalibration). What the new tick-tock will be and how conducive to human interests is another thing. Ages come and go...Cycles come around. More interesting is how the clock will chime...won't carry on with talk of gnostic studies ...I'd fill pages.
Silly calendars are like the gregorian(was it? can't remem.) which came before the julian (current) it was a mess...changing to the Julian had people believing they had lost a huge chunk of time from their lives....the riots were silly...lasted a long time throughout Europe. The Julian makes sense since it accommodates the leap year...no extra or lack of days in a year...(even still the Julian although perfect as perfect can be...is running out of sync with the natural cycle of the seasons now...)
The silliness of the internal unix countdown is a wee bit more interesting though. Since it really wasn't built with a deliberate ability to "tweak" it or recalibrate, reset, whatever. Awfully silly really. And it is more of a "tock-tick" than a "tick-tock" counting down rather than counting up...
I'm sure someone will find a solution..failing that I doubt it will throw the world into ruins... credit card debt restructuring may possibly be needed...alot of people out there may end up owing a lot more money afterwards.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

No matter what clock/calendar you use, end is near (no shortage of apocalypticists, jesus being the major one, from our pov, or interpret: leave your father and mother behind, as anti-abortion/pro-family as the current reading tells us (also something about returning with witnesses of the crucifixion still alive to rewitness))

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

but to avoid touchy subjects and answer OP:
what will happen after 2036?
2037

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

OMFG! First Jolla, now this. Can really no one get a blooming countdown right?

(Hint: check the alleged versus real days, minutes etc format)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Apo's have come and gone for soo many cultures and civilizations...it isn't even funny.
Math though....math is eternal...
Best way of finding out is as has been suggested set the calendar to Dec. 31 2036 and see...
I doubt much will happen.
not for the nxx0 devices anyway.
The interaction of so much other tech and programs that will be affected and those spinoff ramifications...that ...however...that is another matter completely.
Not much can stop that literal internal countdown that unix is heading towards...I'm sure someone will come up with something sometime.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

timezones are hard (srsly, work in a bank from the top tier, my requests since my country changed time to winter one were all showing 1h ahead, now fixed, i guess US caught up), good catch

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Hum ....
well perhaps I am wrong...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_20...erable_systems
possibly we will have issues with the durn billion-second-bug(calling it that but really it isn't a bug...but deliberately designed)-countdown.

Ach ...anyway I always wanted to live in the turn-of-the-century....epic time period. :D
Hang on to your nxx0 tight...the last best thing it may do is transport you back in time...get a crack at hitler, musso, and a few others while were at it. :D
P.S. don't bother taking your charger with you...take the solar instead ;)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Actually, I wasn't on about time zones. The format is supposed to be yy:dd:hh:mm:ss, i.e. double digits everywhere. But the actual time is displayed with single digits if hours, minutes or seconds are less than 10. 23:65:4:35:1 just looks odd.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Jolla's one was about timezones though IIRC (and this seemed like a safe place, you just count down seconds, why bother where)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

If it gets to that point in the future then we would have to start looking at 64 bit time_t solutions.
Otherwise it's far enough ahead not to worry about IMO.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

If we only use 0 and 1 there is no issue. 01000010011000010110001101101011001000000111010001 10111100100000011000100110000101110011011010010110 00110111001100100000011000010110111001100100001000 00011100110110000101110110011001010010000001110100 01101000011001010010000001110111011011110111001001 10110001100100

Imagine there no satellites
It's hard to do
Nothing to communicate with
And no words too

Imagine all the humans
Talking with binary yah yyy y y
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one...

I hope some day
The comps will join us
And we all live as one.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

So... In 23 years, will YOU pull the GPS satellites down from the orbit to replace the CPU? ;)

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Don't worry, Putin's got our back http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30097643 lets hope the bootloader is unlocked

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Relax, time is relative. All is needed is to agree to a new epoch, a new 'time zero', and we have 23 years to do that.
And by that time, the only 32-bit CPUs still running will be the ones in the N900s so it's a task that we can deal here on TMO :D

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

Hahaha
...I wouldn't be surprised at all if there weren't a few n900's still running by then.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

First of all, 2036 is just a GUI limitation. Time and date are managed by the Linux kernel so it will continue working after 2036 but you may have to use the date command to set it if the GUI hasn't been fixed in CSSU by then.

The real overflow will occur in 2038 as already mentioned. Rest assured, the problem is being worked on. I would hope that all N900 patches would have been upstreamed by then. The latest upstream kernels are already bootable on the N900 with many things working, no patches required (at least under Debian).

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

LOOOOOL

That is all.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

okay guys, this is what gonna happen...

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

ya ...I figured ...

calender / clock -wise I figured as much.

internal-tock-tick-system-clock-countdown will perhaps be a different result...but will be essentially an unknown result until 2037.

Re: What will happen after 2036?
 

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bring tears to my glass eyes...