Jolla Tablet
 

Thought that the Jolla Tablet would deserve a dedicated thread.

After some discussions with voices inside my head I decided to get (or to be precise: contribute to crowdfunding campaign to develop) a Jolla Tablet. Even if I don't need a tablet.

My justification for getting the Jolla Tablet is that I want to support Jolla the company but can't do it by getting the Jolla Phone because it does not meet my use cases (bad camera, mediocre display and no native offline navigation solution are all dealbreakers for me and only one of those could be fixed by software update). I hope that Jolla Tablet will generate some (positive :D) cash flow for Jolla and lets them speed up the software development and eventually lets them to design a new better phone model (or raises interest so that some other phonemaker decides to release a Sailfish phone) and I can put my N9 to rest.

You can contribute to Jolla's crowdfunding campaign at IndieGoGo:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/j...ed-tablet#home

The specs of the Jolla Tablet can be found on Jolla pages: http://jolla.com/tablet or the IndieGoGo campaign pages.

To put it short, Jolla Tablet's form factor is the same as for example iPad Mini's or Nokia N1's formfactor. High res screen, eyebrowrisingly small battery, most probably no 3G...

But anyway, it is not the hardware that we are most interested in, is it? It is the software. Jolla Tablet should ship with Sailfish OS 2.0 which includes for example new types of notifications, lots of bug fixes etc. It should not have a locked bootloader which makes it an interesting choice for hackers and tinkerers. Also hardware should be quite "open" with for example Intel GPU.

Jolla Tablet has an expected shipping date of May 2015.

https://images.indiegogo.com/file_at...png?1416670198

About the controversial strech goal? It would be nice if the discussion about that could be continued in the original thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94157&page=63 (read from there on about exFat licenses and stuff like that).

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For me, there was no question. A mobile device that I don't have to root/jailbreak/crack to use, with full support for Qt-based apps, and is even officially available in the US. And relatively cheap too! :)

This gets me a step closer to what I feel is going to be my new normal: a smart mobile device for computing purposes, and a dumb cellphone. Here in the US, the best way to win in the ever more complex world of cell phone providers is to just not play their game...

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You can get that if you really want it, it just costs you around 1,1 million dollars at the moment.

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Riiiight. Like I want the phone company to get their tentacles into my device.

At least where I live, using 3G/4G for net access is outrageously expensive, if it even exists -- practically half of Ohio lacks cell coverage (and certainly not 4G). Outside of the big cities, you're much more likely to find a public wifi hotspot, offering higher speed internet access for free.

So yeah, I have no need or desire to purchase tablets with cellular inside. Makes no sense at all.

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Weel at least the Jolla Tablet apparently ships to USA & Canada.

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You trust the telephone company more? Wow, yes, I do believe we live in different worlds.

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Proper encryption guarantees that you can use any required transport layers.

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If this is based on Intel Atom Z3735F and if it is similar to Intel Atom Z3745 than battery will most likely suck very much.
I just got one Acer with that Z3745 and it barely lasted 4 hours.

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Ok, so... Does that mean you choose to use the network that costs more and you trust less? :D

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(fair warning: nitpicking ahead)

The "Spectrum of Names" is a rather large one, indeed. On one side of the spectrum, there's whatever Canonical wants to call their Ubuntu releases. I didn't even know what a pangolin or vervet were before those releases. Also, anytime you have a community expecing the new release of a distro to be called "Vivid Velociraptor," you can tell it's pretty crazy.

On the other end of that spectrum, however, is Jolla. The phone, that is. It's a shame that clarification is necessary.

It's pretty hard to get more basic than a letter and number(s), or more generic than _Phone, or more uncreative than a basic acronym 4 letters and lower. But what can be more basic than calling your product the same thing as your company? Or calling the product what it pretty much is?

Call the tablet the Jolla Marlin or something, or - even better - let the community come up with stuff and let them vote on it.

And don't get all Shakespearian on me. The name itself doesn't matter to me, so long as it HAS A NAME!

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Yeah, man, that sux. I was in a similar situation with my provider, the one I used for about 15 years. But then I ackquired my first N9 and needed a micro-SIM card. Where do I get one? I cannot use my regular SIM just to try in the N9 because I would need to cut it and then it would not go back in my N900. This is when I remembered that my first N900, bought second-hand on eBay, came with an unused pre-paid SIM. Still in its credit-card-style frame, glued to the box lid. So I popped it out, cut to micro size, popped it in the N9 and, to my great surprise, it worked! To my even bigger amazement, it turned out to be an unbelievably good deal. The coverage it quite good too. I only get 3G in the suburbia where I live, but 4G in quite a lot of places nearby.

Since then I moved it to my Jolla, which I currently use as a tablet. The "phone" is just the right size for a tablet IMO. I topped up the credit only once, in March 2014, with £10. I started using it quite extensively in September when I acquired my Jolla. I just checked my remaining balance and it was £7.14. It was over £8 last week but I drove around a lot with modRana running and downlaoding maps as I went.

And the best part? The SIM is totally anonymous. The previous owner of the N900 it came with has never registered it and of course neither have I. In the worst case, I can always chuck it in the bin and get a new one from a pound shop. They are all over the place.

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That's merely personal preference, then. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but you can't trash something just because it doesn't fit YOUR preferences.

Stick to your telco, others will stick to public WiFi. Live and let live.

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Hahahaha! I spent 3 GBP in nine*) months! :p

*) Well, OK, just three months of extensive use.

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So, for a pay-as-you-go SIM, you don't have to register? Just pop it in a phone and you're good to go?

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Yup. 10 chars.

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._.

Then why the hell do I bother with AT&T?! I'm salty!

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I have absolutely no interest in 3G/4G. I have wifi tethering on my Note 3 and have had no problem using internet with my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (or even jphone when I tried it). As I always have my phone with me I would always have internet access on my tablet.

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It may be different in the Land of the Free :)

I have never had any other than PAYG plans. I have never seen the point. (Well, OK, there is the danger of running out of credit at the most inconvenient moment. That could be somehow alleviated by registering a credit card for auto-top-up, but then you lose the anonymity. Decisions, decisions...)

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So, do you have like a nifty setup where your tablet is a proxy for your phone? Like, you have a Privoxy/Squid proxy and iptables running with your phone connected?

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In the Land of the Free, corporations are free to shove ads into one's eye sockets. I make no excuses for my lack of knowledge though. I never even thought to look into PAYG plans; I've only ever dealt with carriers before.

The more you f-ing know...

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Hi. Well, I can appreciate your view. I don't need such but there are some android apps that can handle some of that. Also, there are Xposed modules that block ads that I use. My guess is if you are willing to hack away you can meet your needs on android. Just won't be as pretty! Regardless, I bought into the Jolla tablet because I still prefer Sailfish over Android and I like to support Jolla company.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...all.free&hl=en

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Well, please allow us to have bluetooth tethering instead of wifi tethering. We need to save battery power I'm our jolla phone

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(He said he'd be out but anyway...)

If you already have unlimited flat rate data plan wouldn't it then make more sense to just BT tether the tablet to the phone than say, get another one of those 27euro/month data plans just for the tablet?

I guess a twin sim is another possibility but as far as I know they cost extra, too.

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There is a new perk available at IndieGoGo: Lastu case for Jolla tablet, 49$.

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And get your tablet via this link to sponsor my development-only tablet :D #testing #abusing #torturing

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Does it work also for the lastucase perk ? :)

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Yes it does.

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I don't think it does.

The referrals section clearly states you need '4/10 Jolla Tablet referrals', not any other referrals. If it worked for other perks, you could get 10 $10 perks and get a tablet for half its price :)

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Well,

From the Terms and conditions, i found:

4. Prizes

By referring contributions worth at least 756 USD in total, the Participant gets one LastuCase for Jolla Tablet.

By referring contributions worth at least 1890 USD in total, the Participant gets one Jolla Tablet (in addition to the LastuCase for Jolla Tablet).

So I thought all that is required is that the referrals refer to any perk in Jolla tablet -campaign. You just need to collect enough dough with your referrals.

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That makes sense. Thanks for the info.

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Ok, that LastuCase is pretty damn cool.
That alone makes me wanna order this damn thing... that I still have not managed to figure out any use. But it's so pretty. :(

https://images.indiegogo.com/file_at...png?1417528616

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Same here. Lastu stuff is so freaking pretty and high quality.

But the tablet still about 1,05 million away from 3G. I don't really even need 3G connected one, but at least I would have some minimal use cases for it.

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I also would like mobile net capable tablet, but for me it is not a necessity. I have several 4G and 3G connections I can share with the tablet, so I do not actually care.

I have tabletand the Lastucase for it coming up. I have distributed my referral link to about 20 people I know. Maybe I get another set :)

I would like to see official support for big memory card. Like 128 or bigger (when they eventually emerge). I personally do not need exfat support, but I can understand the need.

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It is. Had to get one.

Costs something like four times a typical cover would cost but what the heck. It is pretty.

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Less than $19K to reach the first stretch goal. The second seems unlikely. The duel screen would be great. Please include this feature even if the 2nd goal is not reached as it would be quite useful. I promise to buy the Latsu case if you do!

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What exactly is the split screen thingy? Is it just the ability to see two windows on the screen at the same time? And if so, what is so special about it? Computers could do more than one window on the screen since like what, 1988?

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Yes that is what it is about. It doesn't have to be split screen for me. I'd just like to have two or more windows open at the same time like on my computer. Improves functionality. I don't think it is that special as I can do that on my Galaxy Note anyways but having a split screen thingy is now part of a stretch goal. Not sure why.

Btw, the real reason I want it is so I can play Angry Birds and watch my favorite movie at the same time...

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That's it indeed. This is a tablet, not PC so it's not given. That said still expected in 2014. Especially thinking what kind of OS and fanbase we are talking about.
If the realities are they wont have time to make it with the employee count they got before launch. Then be it. I would still expect it soon after.

Windows 8 tablets got amazing windowed multitasking functionality. Would love to see something like that on Jolla. Windows 8 multitasking method on touch screens is actually very MeeGo like with its heavy use of gestures.

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Wow! Less than 8 thousand dollars to go! Should be there by the time I get up in the morning!

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and errr.. the split screen thingy.. why do we need to fund more money for that? isn't that just a feature they would add to sailfishOS 2.0?

im not that bright.. but.. does that mean if we don't fund it 1.75mill the feature will NEVER ever exist for jolla tablets?

its a feature in the OS.. not a hardware feature.. right?