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pistachio 2014-12-09 05:59

Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
I see lots of members posting/donating on "Help *developer name* to develop apps for sailfishOS ", A great help to the developers. But with no disrespect to the developers, the thing keeps me wondering, why dont anyone start an initiative like "Help *developer name* to develop apps for maemo/meego" ? Do these platform are being left by community after nokia too? I mean no new apps will be ported to these platforms? As i have not jolla yet, (and off course no money to buy it), i was thinking to sell both N900/N9 and buy a jolla to have latest apps being developed. I guess its a stupidity. Just wondering. :)

nieldk 2014-12-09 06:30

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
Well, we have the coding competition. But perhaps it's time to rethink ?
I think all of us (me, coderus and cepiperez) didn't leave Harmattan - Maemo , but yes, focus did shift some.
Perhaps because Jolla after all is not crippled by Aegis.

On a side note, all can start fx an Indiegogo campaign. Both Coderus and I did on own initiative, mine was raised attention here by another member. Cepi's was started by a fellow member who wants to help (thanks from many for that)

pistachio 2014-12-09 07:31

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1451200)
Well, we have the coding competition. But perhaps it's time to rethink ?

On a side note, all can start fx an Indiegogo campaign.

This would be an awesome start to support all the three devices simultaneously.

Morpog 2014-12-09 09:28

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
I'm not sure it's a good idea, after all these indiegogo campains were advertised as sailfishos developing. People spent money in regards of sailfishos.

pistachio 2014-12-09 11:18

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1451214)
I'm not sure it's a good idea, after all these indiegogo campains were advertised as sailfishos developing. People spent money in regards of sailfishos.

Yeah i guess nieldk meant totally new campaign for maemo/meego development. No resources will be used which were given to them via sailfishOS campaigns.

aegis 2014-12-09 13:58

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
I suggested crowdfunding development about a year ago and it's kind of started to pick up momentum recently.

https://together.jolla.com/question/...g-development/

One of the suggested solutions is to use https://www.bountysource.com

It's a pity we can't integrate it into together so that alongside voting on topics, you can pledge money for a bounty.

The other thought I had was that the community funds full time developers that Jolla manage that work on projects that the community has voted for.

juiceme 2014-12-09 20:55

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
One way to get into action, to be able to yourself have a say on the things and get to influence how we should handle these matters is to step forward and run for Council member in the next election. :)

salamisami 2014-12-09 21:13

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
What about, say, community-chosen bounties for certain applications that are needed on the platforms? Hard to think how that would work effectively though, maybe people would write half assed applications just to get the prize money. Would need some milestones and stuff.

pistachio 2014-12-09 21:21

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1451333)
One way to get into action, to be able to yourself have a say on the things and get to influence how we should handle these matters is to step forward and run for Council member in the next election. :)

When i have to say things, i would prefer just posting it in the forum, and expect some member to respond, i don't see any requirement of the council here. Coz creating the apps or maintaining them on some individual platform is the sole responsibility and wish of the developer. Do Council members guide them to choose path for the development? Sorry i have not very clear idea about what council members do actually.

juiceme 2014-12-09 21:32

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
I was more thinking on the lines of organizing application contest. And channeling funds is not out of the question either.

Wikiwide 2014-12-10 01:28

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
Welll...

When was the last coding competition, 2012?
When coding competition 2015 arrives, would it be possible to have an additional category for Hildon-ised apps? Like, XPaint or Navit? Just so that people would not forget the comfort of using the same predictable GUI everywhere?

Similarly, there is desperate need for Glacier-based apps on Nemo Mobile.

And, how is it going with N8x0?

Also, bad timing considering all the donations going on right now, but there will be funds needed for coding competition - prizes. Be it Neo900, N900, N950, N900, N8x0, N1, or Jolla.

To make things easier for developers, there should be:
1. Proper documentation on setting up development environment from scratch;
2. Testers who are ready to install alpha-beta-software and tell whether it works or not, asap.

Best wishes.

pistachio 2014-12-10 06:57

Re: Just wondering about the future (again) !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1451365)
I was more thinking on the lines of organizing application contest. And channeling funds is not out of the question either.

You are the councilor. All eyes are on you. Make it happen man, if possible. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 1451409)
Welll...

When coding competition 2015 arrives,

To make things easier for developers, there should be:
1. Proper documentation on setting up development environment from scratch;
2. Testers who are ready to install alpha-beta-software and tell whether it works or not, asap..

Is it official that coding competition is going to be there in 2015? and yes those two points are the necessities to keep this community alive, coz many new users who know coding can help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by salamisami (Post 1451339)
maybe people would write half assed applications just to get the prize money. Would need some milestones and stuff.

Point to be noted. Seriously.


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