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Dave999 2015-01-01 09:33

Jolla Tablet Refunds (latest developments)
 
I think we need a count up thread to follow this process and make sure jolla don't forget about this tablet. It's well speced now but in 6 months it will be "garbage". Anyhow, Like the sail overall even if it immature in almost all areas so we have to keep track of the progress before delivery in approximately 145 days. If jolla could squeeze in 3G it would make a difference since the area of usage would be so much greater. Anyhow...jolla started with bootstrapping...what is the next step?

DAY ZERO

Milestones to reach:
1. A count up thread
2. Sail 2.0 release
3. release party
4. Details of shipment
5. Delivery
6. Unboxing
7. Usage

juiceme 2015-01-01 10:04

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1454633)
Milestones to reach:
1. A count up thread
2. Sail 2.0 release
3. release party
4. Details of shipment
5. Delivery
6. Unboxing
7. Usage

You need to squeeze in the 1st ones invitation Gala!
I'd say somewhere between 3&4

veeall 2015-01-02 03:14

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Voted, no, but still considering buying the tablet.

Kangal 2015-01-02 03:14

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1454637)
You need to squeeze in the 1st ones invitation Gala!
I'd say somewhere between 3&4


Also you need to add in:

- First software update
- First custom firmware
- First hardware issue thread
- First "Jolla Tablet Killer" by competitor
- First "I'm selling my J tablet" thread
- First OH accessory party
- Can't find Jolla Tablet
- My Jolla died thread
- I hate Jolla/Leaving TMO thread
- I just revived my Jolla thread
- etc etc etc

irulestar 2015-01-02 03:57

and add the marketing area , so that everyone can afford :D

cvp 2015-01-03 00:58

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
jPad? i dont now what this is, but why you dont buy a JOLLA TABLET?

i buy one and i cant wait for it...
its nice to have if the JOLLA TABLET has 3g/4g... but i can life with it... i turn on the Hotspot on my JOLLA PHONE... done! :)

dirkvl 2015-01-09 19:10

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1455504)
I'm sure finland contributed most...but what country comes second in terms of contribution?

Going with TOHKBD2 data I put my money on Germany.

gerbick 2015-01-09 22:13

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
You know... it just hit me. I bought the tablet knowing very little about Jolla. Twitter, LinkedIn, Skype, Google Hangouts... any of those native?

Or will I have to sideload all of those from Android? Also, what about drawing apps? Krita, Autodesk SketchBook, Wacom Bamboo... any news on those?

Anything like Penultimate (iOS) on Jolla?

gerbick 2015-01-10 01:28

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
I absolutely hate GIMP.

veeall 2015-01-10 06:38

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
I've come to conclusion that i don't like Jollas push into tablets area.
Their second device should have been a phone with better 'state of art' screen, more RAM, better CPU, with the same size as Jolla 1 and compatible with TOH-s. Coupled with few really useful TOHs, be it keyboard TOH, powerTOH or any other, just no more ******** desktop wallpaper changers.
I cannot see how marketing a tablet could improve native app situation for jolla phone. App development is largely stalled for phone, and i don't see it would be any better with tablet.

ste-phan 2015-01-10 07:34

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by veeall (Post 1456083)
I've come to conclusion that i don't like Jollas push into tablets area.
Their second device should have been a phone with better 'state of art' screen, more RAM, better CPU, with the same size as Jolla 1 and compatible with TOH-s. Coupled with few really useful TOHs, be it keyboard TOH, powerTOH or any other, just no more ******** desktop wallpaper changers.
I cannot see how marketing a tablet could improve native app situation for jolla phone. App development is largely stalled for phone, and i don't see it would be any better with tablet.

Totally agree.
In fact, in with the Jolla "the first one" I do already own a (mini) tablet with Sailfish OS, 3G and excellent battery life.

The Jolla tablet will bring me more of the same functionality

- minus the option to make phone calls with it by inserting a SIM card
+ extra joy reading comics and watching pictures

At the set price level of the Jolla tablet I don't expect any improvement in camera, speakers and general hardware quality over the Jolla phone, on the contrary.

I don't need either, Just supporting Jola hopefully rebuilding what's left of my dream.

Marketing wise I think I can help Jolla to promote their brand with the tablet better than with the phone.
I have a lot of experience with nobody being interested in the Jolla phone whatsoever.
Tablets are more common good than a phone which is being considered more private, sometimes laying around, self inviting people to try it.
Tablets are more exposed to public eyes than phones because they are bigger and are being used for longer reading sessions.
Exposure including fancy Sailfish moves such as true touch controlled full multitasking (now temporarily postponed by faulty out of memory task killer) and touch control of the minimized tasks might just attract some curiosity.
For explaining Sailfish to iOS / Android addicts, it helps that the screen is big.

Maybe Jolla should have started with the cheap tablet and the move to the ultimate smartphone. Nokia's NIT's only got 3G / Voice throughout step 4 of 5 :D

Copernicus 2015-01-10 10:39

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by veeall (Post 1456083)
Their second device should have been a phone with better 'state of art' screen, more RAM, better CPU, with the same size as Jolla 1 and compatible with TOH-s.

Hmm. Being that it's a tablet and not a phone means that (a) it's less expensive, and (b) it's available in the US; which for me, means that it's the first Jolla device I can get. I'm sorry to see the OH concept starting to disappear already; but, given that Jolla seems to have no control at all over their hardware(*), I can't imagine them being able to hang on to any truly unique features. :(

However, the tablet does have USB OTG -- shouldn't this open up a host of possibilities for external keyboards, hard drives, or other peripherals?

Quote:

I cannot see how marketing a tablet could improve native app situation for jolla phone.
Well, in one very small way, it'll improve -- I stopped developing my own apps for Sailfish once I realized I had no good way of actually acquiring a Sailfish device for myself (and nobody else in North America would have one either). Now, I will finally be getting one, so I'm starting up my Sailfish SDK once again. :)

(*) Unfortunate quote from the recent Jolla Crowdsourcing blog:

Quote:

Finally, a reminder that Jolla is mainly a software company, which means that we need to rely on our partners developing hardware for us. This will cause some unfortunate limitations as we have limited possibilities to add new hardware features to our products. In practice this means that for our upcoming, very first Jolla tablet, we are likely no longer able to add new hardware features. We had to make our choice quickly about the platform in order to get it kicked off into development.

Copernicus 2015-01-10 10:40

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1456075)
I absolutely hate GIMP.

What a coincidence! I absolutely love GIMP. ;)

Morpog 2015-01-17 13:45

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Why should it be gone? See the campaign info about timeframe for splitscreen feature release.

switch-hitter 2015-01-17 14:05

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1456225)
Jolla sold 7,200 rookie tablets!

score 30 vs 14...seems that only 30 was sold to TMO-members :D

Did you count me in that 30? I ordered one.

Earlier this week I even succumbed and bought a Jolla phone. I originally planned to wait until I could compare Sailfish / Ubuntu / Tizen but I got bored of waiting.

mrsellout 2015-01-17 16:40

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Out of interest, were you lucky enough to get the VIP box?

sandy_locke 2015-01-17 18:51

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1457030)
Did you count me in that 30? I ordered one.



Earlier this week I even succumbed and bought a Jolla phone. I originally planned to wait until I could compare Sailfish / Ubuntu / Tizen but I got bored of waiting.


I ordered a tablet too and am sure that I'm not in those 30.

To come back to the earlier discussion, with this tablet I'm also planning on helping devs to make qt apps for sailfish, things that I was not going to do just two months from now.

mrk88 2015-01-17 19:15

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
I also bought one :)

pichlo 2015-01-17 19:37

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1457030)
Did you count me in that 30?

That was just Dave's way of trying to entice more TMO members to vote in his narcistic poll. By voting in it, you can count yourself. I see currently 51 members did.

pichlo 2015-01-18 15:56

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Nobody can ignore US. It's a big country ;)

Morpog 2015-01-18 17:05

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1457108)
Its not mentioned anywhere in the feature links. Nor do I found the time table in campaign. Please link. Thx.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/j...sourced-tablet

Quote:

Split screen will be available to you as a software update during Q3/2015.

mikelima 2015-01-29 16:36

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1458648)
https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-...ed-tech-specs/
Anyone bought this extra memory? I won't since I rather use memory card instead of one big memory.

I did, and I see I am in good company: as of this writing, there are 800 upgrades to 64Gb.

I planned (and still plan) to add a uSD card to the tablet, and I will probably use that for multimedia stuff. But a larger SD card should be more reliable than a smaller one, if it is using the same technology: after all, wear levelling is spread to twice the memory cell. Also, it should be faster (it is easier to find a free page to relocate). And the price is not outrageus. Nokia or Apple asked a steep premium for the extra memory... In Jolla case, the option is more expensive than a uSd, but not too much.

nodevel 2015-02-03 09:53

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

(Q) Andreas: I can see that new contributors may add 200 USD to get a Jolla smartphone along with their Jolla Tablet. Could those of us who contributed in 2014 do the same?

(A) Jolla: @Andreas: For the early bird contributors, there might be something special coming up. Check your emails regularly ;)
There's no room for speculation other than it has something to do with being able to buy the phone together with the tablet... But sure, let's create hype about nothing :)

gerbick 2015-02-12 21:19

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
I thought the only thing special for the early contributors is the relatively cheap upgrade to 64GB.... which I jumped on.

Wish I bought the Lastu case though. That's the one thing I'll probably regret not purchasing.

salyavin 2015-02-14 05:00

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
I see they are sending out info for MWC
http://thegadgetsfreak.com/global-pr...-for-mwc-2015/
http://tablet-news.com/2015/02/09/jo...vites-are-out/

I hope at some point we get another phone.

Kangal 2015-02-22 15:33

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Jolla tablet could be the tablet you take to your IT work.
Where you can use Native Linux tools.
Of course, for something that you compile by yourself, for your work.

It's not like a Windows laptop which has a Program running provided by a third-party solutions company.

DeadHorseRiding 2015-02-28 08:25

Interesting paper ehmmm bag...
And so easy to recycle.

I would use a tablet many years, like my N9.

But spare parts not good to sell on iGoGo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1462293)
A bag really? Add 3G and a bag make since. Now. Not tat much.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/j...ablet#activity


mrsellout 2015-03-02 20:51

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1462665)
Spare parts? Jolla dont have spare parts even if you pay $110001001.

Should I trade my jolla tablet vs a ubuntu phone maybe..?

Does the phone have 4G? :p

MINKIN2 2015-03-06 19:08

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1463162)
60 days to shipment!! 22 to more votes until we reach 100 buyers @ TMO

We need another perk...

I guess we'll see a lot more TMO users buying the tablet when it has its retail release? Sales from crowd funding sites will often turn many potential buyers away, I know it has been a turn off for me in the past.

Dave999 2015-03-20 20:16

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Guys...you have seen IT all before! Anyway...here you go: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-iteration-3/

Sailfish alliance is alive after 2 years of total silence. Are jussi hurmula involved in this alliance some how?

Anyway...for jolla, 40 days of hacking, cracking, smacking and coding.
For us it's 40 days of waiting. The best part is that we only need 17 more buyers to reaching 100 buyers. buy+vote=success

Dave999 2015-03-25 15:35

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Last call...DING DING DING DING

Dave999 2015-03-26 17:14

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Ok let me spell it out for you:

Yeah, its only five days left on this second campain. :eek:
Yeah, all 3 streach goals was fake. Why do you think they canceled the campaign, just to open it again right after without stretch goals :mad:
Yeah, there is no 3G/4G in the tablet. :(
Yeah, we need 14 more buyers to reach 100 buyers at TMO. :o
Yeah, it's 19,928 funders currently :confused:
No, we wont' get 3G/4G if we reach 20000 Funders. :rolleyes:

We do however, might see Marc say: 1...2...3...PEOPLE POWER! (and noone in the crowed respond) :D
(I would love to have that clip in partner space @ delivery):cool:

sandy_locke 2015-03-27 11:13

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
And one more ;)

Just voted...

Dave999 2015-03-29 17:50

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Ok, jolla spaming me With mails about this useless tablet without 3G and so i pay IT forward and spaming you.

Lucky we have only 9 more tablets to go to reach 100. Unfortuanatly we have only two days to get there...so grab your credit card and waste some Money on this brick.



GL!

Dave999 2015-03-30 07:47

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Jolla has spent 150 days since announcement...

The goal is in our reach...help Jolla to get their tablet to the world.

The goal is in our reach...only 4 to go with one day left of the campaign.

The goal...is 100 tablets if that isn't clear to anyone.

Dave999 2015-03-30 09:56

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
One more tablet and we have reached the goal. Come On! Who wants to be Mr 100...

juiceme 2015-03-30 10:23

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1465313)
The goal...is 100 tablets if that isn't clear to anyone.

Is this just your personal goal or is there some perks when it is reached? (and honestly, this is not sarcasm, as I do not know of this...?)

tommo 2015-03-30 10:36

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
It would be rather funny if it stayed on 99 :D

Dave999 2015-03-30 10:36

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1465326)
Is this just your personal goal or is there some perks when it is reached? (and honestly, this is not sarcasm, as I do not know of this...?)

Jolla perks...are you kidding me? This is my own...trying to help Jolla. Given how Jolla using the "fake" perks I could say...expect nothing, get nothing. Just pay...:D

juiceme 2015-03-30 12:30

Re: Jolla tablet countup to delivery[Now With Poll]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1465329)
Jolla perks...are you kidding me? This is my own...trying to help Jolla. Given how Jolla using the "fake" perks I could say...expect nothing, get nothing. Just pay...:D

STFU and take my $currency ! :D:D:D


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