Desktop<->Mobile synergy, who'll get there (or nearest) 1st? Is it even worthwhile, or as amazing as it's cracked up to be?
 

I'd be surprised if a bunch of Chinese vendors don't give it a whirl before the end of the year. I think it'll be quite a compelling alt OS (to Android / iOS) when the desktop mode is pushed out in Q4.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

Desktop mode is an intressting concept... But Why would It be used?

I can't take an Os serious until they have atleast one native major streaming service for music and movies. Then you know they have succeeded.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

A proper desktop mode, ie one that can run full desktop programs as-is would be, for me, the holy grail of mobile devices. And frankly that would be the only reason to buy an "ubuntu" phone, otherwise I don't see it having any competitive advantages over its competitors at this point in time. With all the hardware capabilities in a modern phone, it's just wasted in only running a "mobile" OS. Give it decent onboard storage (64GB at least), one or two microSD slots and it's more powerful than many entry level notebooks.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

As a surface pro 2 owner I have full desktop experience in Tablet, get it into a phone will give you lots of challenges to solve heat is one...navigation one in such a small screen. I'm sure it will take more than 6 month until we have a excellent solution in any phone...(talking obout full desktop)

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

Use the destop version of Opera / Chrome for Ubuntu, then, and voila - you have Netflix on Ubuntu Phone.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

Does it really work?

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

As much as I hate to say this, I think you're right. I have a tablet running Windows 8.1 that I got from a coworker, and it makes me really sad that we don't yet have a great tablet UI for Linux yet.

The Jolla Tablet UI looks like it'll be the first, but it's proprietary and doesn't have a desktop component. Plasma Active looks very interesting, but development seems to have slowed as the KDE devs focus on the core of Plasma 2.

I think Ubuntu will likely be the first with a usable UI for both, but it's still a ways away.

I should really learn some QML so I can help out with some of these...

Why I think Window 8x sucked, & therefore, why I think Win10x will (prolly) suck
 

I have solved it... but its not for sale :P

MS hasn't solved it. And they aren't even close. They need a visionary.
In short, they need someone like Steve Jobs.
Someone with an iron-hand who will overlook everything, and bring everything cohesive and together.

They basically need one UI that works for things from watches, phones, tablets, laptops, all-in-ones, to TV's.

MS wants that but is far off. (Band, WP, RT, W10, XB1)
Apple is closer to that. (Watch, iOS, OSX, A-TV)
But the closest is Google. (Wear, Android, Chromium, TV)

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

That is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about full desktop env on a phone...nothing more nothing less. Not clocks, freezers, tvs, cars or biking computers...

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

Indeed. Nokia came the closest to that. I am typing this reply on one. It is called Nokia N900. No one has come closer to a real desktop environment before or since.

Why I think Window 8x sucked, & therefore, why I think Win10x will (prolly) suck
 

I have not seen Windows 10 yet. To be honest, the Windows 8 debacle has spoilt everything Windows for me for a looooong time. Not that I was a fan before but I W8 was such a disaster that only a die-hard fanboy could think it was a good idea.

In W8, Microsoft had tried exactly that. The Holy Grail of merging mobile and desktop UI. With a totally disastrous result. Intead of trying to bring the mobile UI up, closer to the desktop level, they went the other way and brought the desktop down. They effectively turned a production tool into a toy.

You claim Windows 10 is better. Well, maybe. But I doubt a real sunergy is even possible. The two environments are just too different. It's not like comparing a car to a bus. It's more like comparing a car to a cable car.

Re: Why I think Window 8x sucked, & therefore, why I think Win10x will (prolly) suck
 

I'm not saying Win10 is better, I'm saying it's not worse. It basically is a Win8.1 without all that annoying crap like side menus etc. And I guess I could really live with it.
BUT, it has huge drawbacks. It's lacking features that were present in Win7. It doesn't allow you to connect to Adhoc network which my N9 makes. It doesn't allow me to check saved wifis' passwords.
Of course it also suffers from some Win8 things like it takes long to turn on, it's almost unusable for the first two minutes after startup on a hdd etc etc.
All in all, Win7 will be the last "good" OS by Microsoft.

Re: Why I think Window 8x sucked, & therefore, why I think Win10x will (prolly) suck
 

Sorry, but I experience the opposite. It boots faster than Windows 7 and even faster if you have a UEFI capable system with the Fast Boot feature enabled (I don't, though).
It's usable as soon as all the startup programs start, which, for me, are only a selected few.

I agree that the Metro, aka Modern UI is total bul***it and so is the start menu, things I have fortunately "fixed", which is why I am still using Windows 8.

Re: Why I think Window 8x sucked, & therefore, why I think Win10x will (prolly) suck
 

From what I've seen so far from Windows 10 (aka Win10), it looks like a Windows 7 OS but its more polished, quicker, better performance, and efficient (battery wise). It happens to have the "Metro Start Bar". And if its in tablet mode, its not bad that it reverts to the Full Metro UI. (Full Metro, hahaha)


Windows 98, Windows XP, Windows 7...that's been Microsoft at its best.

I feel like Windows 8 is like the anti-Vista.
Vista had the User Interface down, but its behind-the-scenes code sucked. It was bloated and slow.
Win8 has the behind-the-scenes down, its fast and efficient. But its User Interface is atrocious.
Both suck bad for different reasons.


All I know is, winten is coming.

Re: Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones, we go hands-on
 

The N900's a bit different though, as it has more in common with desktop Linux than today's smartphones. I'm not sure about Fremantle (don't have an N900 myself), but Diablo for example doesn't really work that well without a stylus, which would pretty much make it unusable with a capacitive touch screen.