Sailfish (possibly) to be official Mobile OS for Russia or BRICS?
 

http://www.jollausers.com/2015/05/sa...em-for-mobile/

Can this really be true? Am I alone in thinking this is NOT good news, case of selling out for cash IMHO.

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Who is the devil here? i think its awesome news!

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??? Would it be the same if EU finally did something, instead just complaining that US has monopoly in regards to mobile OSes? Sounds great really, if Russia wants to throw money at Jolla for 'russia specific' features, they will be able to expand and hire more people who can also work on core features of the base Sailfish (without backdoors) edit: also lets hope they can use this to promote sailfish for Brazil, they would be glad for NSA-less phone

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Very good news IMHO.

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I concur. If russia licenses Sailfish from Jolla, they can tweak the evel details if tbey want to. It does not mean that those same details will show up in devices sold by Jolla. I do not mean that Russia would actually make any nasty modifications to their version of Sailfish, it it just something some people are afraid of.

You can compare this situation to that of android. There is the 'standard' version(s) of Sailfish from Jolla, (like vanilla Android from Google) and other licensees can tweak it to suit their equipment within the agreed upon boundaries (like other manufacturers are doing to theirs Android devices).

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that is indeed good news. coderus should be president of sailfish in russia. report direcly to Putin and outrank mark and the rest of the jollas.

does this even mean something in reallity?

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Well "Selling out to the devil" is a phrase and besides it was directed at the "Official" part. Not sure I would want to be dealing with the Kremlin. Good luck to them if that's what keeps Jolla going.

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The question is if they'll use own HW, and if so they can put any evil things they want(see it as russian NSA things) and it would not be related to Jolla.
Or they would use Jolla branded devices and this case Jolla would not release source as it would be related to 3rd parties making the phones (at least that's why jolla do not give us flashable images)

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lol, cooperation with any 3rd party partner is risky, why you think russian companies would include backdoors and trojans in system and others wont? don't be silly. anyway if any partner would want to do so jolla should restrict this activities. also in my vision russian aim is to get "sailfish secure" operating system to develop new devices for it, as some russian companies wanted to do it in past, but always based on android, but now they will have option to do secure operating system based on good android alternative os. peace.

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Im pretty sure russia will include beneficial code if possibe, like the rest of the agressive countries(basically all big counties). would be good if the small countries decided and the big ones executed and paid. :D

russian dont doing anything for free plus not sure if this is real or just words. One thing is fishy. why no word from jolla?

anyways. I hope this mean somthing good for the growths of sail.

source?
http://pics.v6.top.rbk.ru/v6_top_pic...8863897105.jpg

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I suppose Jolla will get some money, but the dev. process will not benefit from this cooperation. Hopefully it will not slow down from this cooperation, either.

PS I'm from Russia.

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Yeah, just about every country's doing it to some degree or other. Even those without the capability to build their own spying applications are buying systems from 3rd parties - https://www.schneier.com/blog/archiv...cking_of_.html

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Well, a lot of Sailfish is open source, the more people adding/fixing to that codebase, the better.

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I hope this deal isn't the sort of deals Cyanogen ROM/Inc/Cygn is doing lately...


With that all said, I hope Europe backs Jolla too.
They non-stop complain about iOS and Android's monopolization, but don't see alternatives. I think if Jolla was able to get polished and shipped out to two devices that would be enough:

Device 1)
£65/€85 (~$100)
4.5 inch
540p display
QSD 400 (upto QSD 615)
1GB DDR3 RAM
16GB NAND
2.1MP ffc/8MP
2,000mAh
Slim bezel (75%), front speakers, dual mics, symmetrical shape
9mm thin, polycarbonate unibody with side-flap for accessing battery/SIM

Device 2)
£510/€700 (~$800)
5.7in
1440p display
QSD 805 (upto Exynos 7420)
4GB DDR4 RAM
64GB UFS2 NAND
5.1MP ffc/13MP-OIS
4,000mAh
Slim bezel (80%), front speakers, dual mics, symmetrical shape
8mm thin, aluminium unibody with side-flap for accessing battery/SIM

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There's word from Jolla in this piece by Digitoday.

For those not fluent in Finnish, Jolla chief of communications Juhani Lassila says that Antti Saarnio was in Russia last week negotiating this, that this was the second time they were talking about this, and that the project is at a very early stage. Not much more.

Also, according to Tivi, Russia wants to develop their own platform that would be based on Sailfish and Russians would be doing the development themselves – they just don't want to start from scratch. (Tivi's article is translated from the original RBC piece which I don't understand, so I don't know how accurate it is.)

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Hopefully this means new Jolla hardware that can survive falls from high buildings, tv towers etc

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Probably the best news for Sailfish and Jolla in a while - an actual partner (of sorts).

Now, who wants to join me in praying for a YotaPhone running Sailfish OS?

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There is another article (Google translation).

TL;DR: No contracts or orders have been made. There won't be any country-specific version of Sailfish, but it could function as a platform to digital services. It shall be seen if Russia will license Sailfish in the future e.g. for schools or government agencies.

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so they want to “branch” sail? They will do the development? but not start from scratch?

just take these three factors in the mix.

allow me to be sceptical to this whole thing. sounds like quality trolling of highest level :D

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Yes it said they want to develop new os based on sailfish, not using sailfish itself, si i think it would be nemomobile based, not sailfish really :)

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I believe this is what the RBC article claims and Antti Saarnio says otherwise.

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Even so something here doesn't add up...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...dff3e5bd2d.jpg

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I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Unless you mean it in the "Cinema Sins" youtube channel sense, in which case I see what you did there.

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Speaking of the devil, here is the devil's own account, whether it can be trusted decide for yourself (interestingly enough previously they kept mentioning tizen too, did they drop them and decided to go with jolla? would seem like it):
http://minsvyaz.ru/en/events/33225/

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http://mobiltelefon.ru/photo/februar...e_sailfish.jpg

If I cant spend my money on Yota Sail ll within 6 months it's just powerpoints in meeting room OK, deal?

would be nice upgrade from jolla phone l since it has a unique other half and...russian or from slovakia.

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http://minsvyaz.ru/preview/c/c030795...tos/c26975.jpg

are all these jollas? (I cant read the name notes on the table)

Either way...there are too many people in this meeting? what are all doing there :confused:

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They had full house of top russian IT sector (yandex, kaspersky...)

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those are jolla:
http://minsvyaz.ru/preview/c/f4b00c1...s/_MG_6141.jpg

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Heh, 50% by 2025 :D
http://arstechnica.co.uk/business/20...droid-and-ios/
edit: then again, show me single predictor who has foreseen current mobile OS climate in 2005

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I think it's excellent news.
It finally gives Jolla the market penetration they need. They may not ship Jolla branded handsets, but what they will ship will be Sailfish based devices, just like Sony Ericsson shipped Symbian devices.
I think it finally gives the big 3 something to think about.

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Hey! That's a picture of me!

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I know, there are 10 pics from meeting in public you are on few of them(english version, you need to scroll thru pictures to see all of them) : http://minsvyaz.ru/en/events/32670/
P.S. Is there chance there was second meeting and you have longer hair now(the one on the left)?

http://minsvyaz.ru/preview/c/572a448...13_e70scNV.jpg

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it's very good to to see Dimitri in that meeting.

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One more:
http://russia-insider.com/en/technol...oid-ios/ri7014

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Racism is a specific defined thing, not some catchall to label everything that you find uncomfortable to consider. In times like this i tend to refer to the oxford dictionary:

"The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races"

The quote you comment upon does not, in any way, meet this definition.

That said, i'm quite at ease with the 'russian' move, it is an affirmation of their confidence in the independence of software products in finland.

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I think my days of long hair is long gone. And no, wasn't in second meeting.

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Long hair and black leather jackets are all fine and dandy (putin likes bikers), any official statement on the happenings? Blog post, or still under NDA?

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http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/19/86...sh-jolla-tizen is a good article.

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@AnttiSaarnio What do you think of the Russian version of #SailfishOS ?

@revazrezo One Sailfish OS, One code line, but regional content integrated. Sailfish India, Sailfish Russia, Sailfish Africa #openOS

Please add Sailfish Me to that list (where the owner of the device could change the GUI content of the OS. Not just country by country. Community devs can move much faster than the one code base to make the GUI adjusted.)

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Jolla open sourcing silica june-july?
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2735091