Elop to leave Microsoft
 

Hey guys, remember our old friend Stephen Elop? The guy who guy so enthused with the idea of management restructure at Nokia, stating how the business model of its devices was not working and then sacking everyone off before taking flight back to the mothership.

Well it looks like things haven't been going too well for the old fella...
http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/17/e...oft/#continued

I do hope he will be ok, maybe we can start a Gofundme account to help him out in his hour of need?

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who cares, the damage has already done years ago.......

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maybe he can be the new ceo of talk.maemo.org?

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Maybe at Jolla.....?

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that guy is more hated than Joffery and Ramsey Snow.. he better stay away from TMO or Jolla. or else hes gonna sell this one too.

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anybody else remember the article that detailed exactly what happened in the closing years of Nokia? It was written by an ex Nokia employee with input from many.

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aaaaahhh!
yuuuup!
Another job well done!
Look at the great things he did in advancing Microsoft.
I say point him...nay!
PAY him to head straight for Apple...
and afterwards go and help Google out...
heheheehee...
Our little maemo community would end up being the last standing...
I doubt the user-community of the others mentioned....(excepting google perhaps)...could do it on their own.
He is the perfect weapon.
Why he's better than corp. espionage, sabotage, any old "-age" in fact.
Lets see who he's "helping" next.
[rubs hands together gleefully in anticipation]

as far as "maybe we can start a Gofundme account to help him out in his hour of need? "....
I think with all his previous platinum parachutes ..he doesn't need bubble gum change...
I think rather setting up a "Gofu**me" account would be better...
I'll help.
Really.

Update: Gofu**me.org is available we could all pitch in and do a memorial there to him.
But on the cheap there is always twitter's #gofu**me if you wish to simply attach an honourable(?!) mention to Stevie-boy.

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Thank God!!! Maybe he stops working for ever!!

Actually I was hoping he will show some of his expertise at Micro$oft. I guess they stopped him before he did. Lucky Windows!!!

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May be he should join BlackBerry. The OS is doing better with every iteration now. Time to crash it may be.

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Nay, too early. I want to get hands on some of the more innovative hardware from them... Not the phones themselves, just parts.

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http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/the-...of-nokia-meego

This one?

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This one should be part of B School case studies , What not to do when you are in crisis .

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Mmm... but let's not forget MeeGo was not NOKIA's primary platform.

With regards to Elop I'd like to show him how much I appreciate everything he did for NOKIA... by stamping on his bollocks.

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And Harlow is out too

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/17/87...aves-microsoft

Always came across as utterly clueless to me. Every time she ended up getting promoted/moved in Nokia you just knew that division was heading for disaster.

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Never heard about her, and I have been in the company for a long time... Goes just to tell how comparmentalized large companies can be :D

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Elop is too young to get retired, and too convinced that he was a good manager to get out of the scene for good so...
I'm afraid we're going to hear more about him, in his quest for sucking the bloose and the soul of some other company.

On the positive side, good on old "new" Microsoft, clearing the higher ranks from Ballmer's era honchos.

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Mega LOL :eek::D

Elop... best trojan horse ever. :mad:

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Elop allways falls upwards. He does it so well that we can conclude that Newton was wrong.

Wonder what his next job wil be after this failure. Prez of USA 2016?

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I dont think elop is very skilled...the ones that hire him...not so skilled. I think elop got to much crap...when nokia had to much issues long before...

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NOKIA might have had problems before Elop but they were dwarfed by the problems they had after his burning platform press release.

That was Q1 2011, we're now half way through 2015 and where is Windows Phone? There's not even enough fuel to start a fire.

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I wonder what company next will he destroy. Boston Chicken, Macromedia and Nokia were all his victims.

Wherever he lands, if I have stock in that company, I'm selling it immediately.

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Too bad it seems that MS was a too big a mouthful for him. I suppose the next one should be about the size of Nokia, he seems to handle everything up to that pretty smoothly.

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might be true...we will never know if there was a better option. nokia was a dead horse. what was your alternetive?

keep on working with symbian and meego. bleeding money and fire tens of tousends...
go with android and be one of many android vendors. fire tens of tousends...small sales...
build something new...you dont want to go this road...

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Oh no quite the contrary.
Wherever he lands, make sure to buy Microsoft shares because Elop will bankrupt that company and Microsoft will acquire it for nickels.

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Hmm. I seem to recall a similar situation in the '90s, when a popular maker of consumer electronics was facing total destruction against a rising competitor. They had a similar combination of a popular but graying line of products, and a newer, flashier, but (at that point) uncompetitive line. Their choice?

They went with option #1. For years (at least five years, I would say) they held the line, and indeed bled money and laid off lots of folks. They dropped the old line of products and doubled down on the new one, experimenting with many different (and ultimately failed) permutations, until finally they were able to hire a manager who turned things around.

This company, of course, was Apple...

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Well, yeah, Nokia could have invested more in Meego etc and maybe they'd still be relevant. But lol at your example... Apple has always been different with and without Steve Jobs, and they now have their days counted, it'll just take a while to bring down the monster.

Also, remember that Apple got a little help from their friends: http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-202143.html

M$ could have given Nokia money instead of Elop back in the day ;-)

EDIT: Actually, your wikipedia article mentions the money from M$, didn't read it, sorry, just rememberd that that had happened.

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apple pulled it of when the market and segment was immature...but yeah...nice comback indeed...one of the best in history I would say...

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The one thing Apple has always had is confidence (to the point of absurdity) in their own products. In the early '90s they were almost unique in not knuckling under to Microsoft, unlike other companies (like even IBM!) who seemed to give up the instant M$ started eating into their profit margins.

But other than that, there is nothing special about how Apple operates; it simply had a man at the helm with vision and drive. The products they created were, for the most part, Steve Jobs' personal vision of what a perfect PC would be. Sure, Apple found particular niches and created products to fill those niches; but everybody does that.

:) :) Ah, the cheap attempt by Microsoft to fend off the government's anti-monopoly suit. By that point, Microsoft didn't believe Apple was a real competitor. (Of course, nobody else did either.) But that was around the same time that Apple managed to rehire Steve Jobs, which was a much more useful boost to the company. ;)

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What!!! You're kidding; the personal computer came of age in the '80s, particularly when IBM commoditized it by making the design of their PC public. With Microsoft offering their OS to anyone who wanted to install it, the PC-clone industry quickly rose to push out all competitors (including Apple). By the early '90s, everyone knew what a "PC" was -- an IBM-compatible computer running Windows. (And that's still true today -- e.g., even Apple has "Mac vs. PC" advertisements, when technically Macs are also personal computers...)

Apple survived only by inserting its products around the edges of the market; with the laptop segment, with boutique high-end PCs, by coming up with popular derivative gadgets (iPod, iPhone, iPad...). Even today, Apple still hasn't dared to go back into the traditional expandable desktop PC market (although I think they could get away with it if they tried).

But yeah, Apple has fought back, and in fact is still in the process of getting back into a fully mature market...

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well...at the time apple was nothing like nokia and it was nothing compared to the boost of the smartphone segment kicking off big time...

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Sell it? I think I'd short it!

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Too bad. When he jumped off the "Burning Platform" someone should have handed him a golden brick instead of a golden parachute

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Hmm. Let's see... In the early 90's, Apple had:

* The Apple ][+ line of personal computers, running Apple DOS. Once the most popular brand of PC, but now out of date mainly due to the aging non-graphical UI.
* The fresh new Mac line of computers, with an OS that featured a beautiful new GUI.
* PC hardware manufactured specifically to run these OSs; there were never any authorized Apple "clones".
* A large (but quickly dwindling) reserve of cash, and a large (but quickly dwindling) share of the market.

What they were up against:
* A company that produced only an OS, and licensed it out to hardware manufacturers.
* Competing hardware that was both cheaper and more powerful than the devices Apple could produce.

Sounds awfully similar to me. The only difference here being that Nokia would also have had to compete with Apple's boutique iPhone, as well as Google's commoditized Android.

But yeah, the thing here is that Apple chose to compete in the face of adversity, rather than capitulate...

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well. If you think it was a simular situation. feel free to do so. I dont. its not even relevent to the thread or discussion .

also. apple is one one of a kind...just imagine how many that fails to turn a sinking ship back surface and fly it to moon. must be 1 in a billion to do an apple

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I was reading this and all the way up to the bold line, I thought you were talking about Commodore.

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It's a real pity he didn't get the top job at Microsoft. :D

Nadella is not exhibiting any of Elop's special skills so far.

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Nah, he should definitely go to google.

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True. Unfortunately, Commodore did not manage to turn things around. I think they did a better job trying to hang on than Atari did, but yeah, I guess sometimes just having the spirit to compete isn't enough. :(

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“The higher up you go the more mistakes you’re allowed. Right at the top, if you make enough of them, it’s considered your style.” - Fred Astaire

The above applies to CEOs as much as it does to dancers.

I'm CEOing in the rain,
Just CEOing in the rain,
What a glorious feeling,
I can destroy a company, again.

No matter what mistakes I make,
I get a golden handshake,
I'm CEOing, CEOing in the rain.