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robthebold 2015-06-19 00:26

Powersearch: not working?
 
Just like the subject says. Is powersearch not working? I'd use powersearch to answer this, but . . . no matter what I type, I get no results.

michaaa62 2015-06-19 05:51

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
No problem here...

Did you set some strange search preferences and did you save these settings?

pichlo 2015-06-19 09:56

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Power serch definitely behaves as it feels at the moment.
My (very brief) test:

1) Type "robthebold", press Search. Result: "No results. Did you mean rob the bold?"
2) Type "pichlo", press Search. No results.
3) Type "robthebold", press Search. As #1.
4) Do not type anything, "robthebold" still in the entry box. Press Search again. 6 results.
5) Repeat #4, results as #1.

robthebold 2015-06-19 13:27

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1474123)
No problem here...

Did you set some strange search preferences and did you save these settings?

I didn't even know that there were search preferences that affect powersearch. But just for grins and giggles, I tried it without being logged in and got the same result, that is no results.

Additionally, the powersearch text box only seems to appear in Chrome. I just see the "Loading" message in Firefox and rekonq. So something funny is going on, perhaps involving our friends at Google.

robthebold 2015-06-22 16:00

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
If I'm patient enough, and I click the "Search" button enough, sometimes I get a list of results somewhere on the 2nd to 13th try. Other attempts will sometimes give me nothing -- not "no results", just nothing at all, as if I hadn't pushed the button. Sometimes I get the "No Resutls" bar. Sometimes I get just an orange line.

So, much as we like to tell posters to "use search" and "search is your friend" here, search is not being my friend. In fact, on the 3rd click of the "Search" button, I saw the "No Results" message as the result of search for that phrase: "search is your friend". On the tenth click I got 1890 results. On the other clicks I got the nothing as described above.

I get this on my Kubuntu machine connected to my home network. I see it on my N9 whether connected to the home network or connected over 3g.

If other users are seeing the same thing, they might be forgiven for not "solving their own problem" when they had in fact made a good faith effort only to find that what they sought was not to be found.

Would it be appropriate to add "Please try clicking 'Search' several times if it doesn't give you any results" to the powersearch page? Am I the only one that sees this except for Pichlo who experienced it twice? If it's just me, then the solution is for me to just do as above. But if it's more widespread, someone who knows something more than me about the scripting that powers the powersearch query ought to look into it.

endsormeans 2015-06-22 16:09

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Just like a lovely old car...
it seems it needs to be given give a kick or two every now and again to get 'er goin'...

pichlo 2015-06-22 17:02

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
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Originally Posted by robthebold (Post 1474459)
So, much as we like to tell posters to "use search" and "search is your friend" here, search is not being my friend.

Elementary, Watson!

Attachment 37303

HtheB 2015-06-22 19:52

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1474468)
Elementary, Watson!

Attachment 37303

I disagree with you, I always use Power Search.

As for the OP:
Some browsers somehow doesn't like the "Enter" button, if you click on search instead of pressing Enter, it should give you results :)

peterleinchen 2015-06-22 19:56

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1474484)
I disagree with you, I always use Power Search.

As I do (and I propose to use only that one).

Quote:

As for the OP:
Some browsers somehow doesn't like the "Enter" button, if you click on search instead of pressing Enter, it should give you results :)
Like the sfos browser on my Jolla :mad:

ThomasAH 2015-06-22 19:59

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1474484)
I disagree with you, I always use Power Search.

As for the OP:
Some browsers somehow doesn't like the "Enter" button, if you click on search instead of pressing Enter, it should give you results :)

This! Also, are you using any adblockers by any chance? For me, the Ghostery and Disconnect plugins seem to disable (parts of) the Powersearch function.

robthebold 2015-06-22 20:35

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1474468)
Elementary, Watson!

Attachment 37303

Ever see a button somewhere with a handmade sign on it reading something like "Don't push this button. Use that one over there -->"? For some reason I'm thinking of that right now.;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB
I always use Power Search.

Me too, up till about last week. And the behavior doesn't seem to be different whether hitting <Enter> in the search box or clicking the <Search> button. And it doesn't seem to matter what browser I'm using. Chrome, rekong or Firefox on Kubutu. N9 default browser -- whatever that one was called. Microb on N900.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasAH
This! Also, are you using any adblockers by any chance? For me, the Ghostery and Disconnect plugins seem to disable (parts of) the Powersearch function.

Ya, I had considered this. I can really break powersearch completely by turning on Google Ajax blocking in Ghostery (or by disabling JavaScript): the searchbox and button won't appear at all. But that makes perfect sense.

So I tried disabling the various adblockers and anti-trackers. And in my rekonq attempt, I didn't install any blockers at all.

The weirdest thing is that powersearch sometimes works whether I click the button or hit <Enter>. Occasionally on the first try, but sometimes after many attempts. And is doesn't always fail the same way. Sometimes I see "No Results". Sometimes I see nothing. Sometimes nothing except the little orange horizontal line. The inconsistency is the real headscratcher.

At this point, I'm wondering if it's an aura thing.

pichlo 2015-06-23 08:28

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1474484)
I disagree with you, I always use Power Search.

I joined this forum in mid 2012 and non-working Power Search was among the first things I noticed. I never paid too much attention to it since I had the two other options that worked. I simply considered non-working Power Search a fact of life and never used it.

This thread renewed my interest and just confirmed what I had known for the past three years. Power Search Does Not Work™.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1474484)
Some browsers somehow doesn't like the "Enter" button, if you click on search instead of pressing Enter, it should give you results :)

All my experiments in post #3 were conducted by pressing the Search button. None of them by pressing Enter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1474485)
Like the sfos browser on my Jolla :mad:

I conducted all my experiments in post #3 using Firefox on Windows. The above comment by HtheB about different browser has made me thinking and repeated the same experiments using also IE, Saifish Browser and MicroB.

Ironically, the SFOS browser was the only one that has produced any results at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasAH (Post 1474488)
This! Also, are you using any adblockers by any chance?

No.

Could Power Search be yet another one of those things that only work for some privileged users? I've had a few discussions with members who also happened to be moderators who could not undersdtand how could I be so blind (or stupid ;)) and not see the obvious, until I showed them that the thing I see when I log in are not the same as the thing they see when they log in.

chemist 2015-06-23 08:46

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasAH (Post 1474488)
This! Also, are you using any adblockers by any chance? For me, the Ghostery and Disconnect plugins seem to disable (parts of) the Powersearch function.

What he said! And that probably google changed the api, no idea yet... and NO Powersearch is even there without being logged in.

robthebold 2015-07-04 17:58

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
As of sometime in the last few days, Powersearch is now working properly every time for me. I haven't changed anything in any of my setups that I know of, but it's functioning as expected . . .

Of course, as they say: "Anything that gets better by itself can get worse again by itself". Hoping not.

peterleinchen 2015-07-04 19:23

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Have to say I experienced some oddity with power search on Jolla and N9 one of the last days: no result at all.

HtheB 2015-07-05 03:06

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1475731)
Have to say I experienced some oddity with power search on Jolla and N9 one of the last days: no result at all.

Works fine over here.. (press the search button instead of 'Enter' key, which can cause ending up in no results using some browsers)

peterleinchen 2015-07-06 08:49

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
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Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1475746)
... (press the search button instead of 'Enter' key, which can cause ending up in no results using some browsers)

Confirmed. And I hate the sfos browser for that behaviour :mad:

BUT:
now I really believe pichlo as I experience same oddities more often.
Right now I do not get any search result, neither with power search nor with normal search (top right).
Power search just does not react at all (it looks like). Neither on Enter nor on button click. At least no result is shown.
Normal search just does not react, shows completely white page or what makes me believe techstaff should have a look: with WebCat on Jolla I got that little nice popup.
Tested on Jolla, N9 and also trusty N900.

chemist 2015-07-07 12:12

Re: Powersearch: not working?
 
Resetting indexes now, this may take a couple of hours - last time long search patterns did return an empty page happened few months after infra move, also amount of returns had to be reduced as stuff like "nokia" in your search pattern stalls the search engine and aborts after the regular php timeout. If you do not get along, use google website on its own, we are properly indexed there and you will get results from wiki too.


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