OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

As Quim announced here
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...3975#post73975
the new hacker adition is available

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/...189171468.html
http://www.notacloud.com/blog/?p=38

Let's use this thread for experiences with this release.

BTW, If you don't want to loose custom kernel or initfs with bootmenu and can use linux flasher, it may be good idea to extract just rootfs.jffs2 and flash it alone

Re: OS200 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I guess I'll be first. The installation went great. Recovery went ok, although I didn't have a really recent backup and had to reload some stuff. But everything I downloaded and installed worked. Some didn't on the previous version.

However, backup/restore causes the 770 to reboot. It gets part way into 'Documents' and aborts. Backup/restore now works. Don't know what the difference is.

I was using Opera last night and it kept causing the 770 to reboot. Minimo worked ok, though.

Thanks,

Bob

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

cool :)

I will certainly install it this weekend.

My thanks to Quim, Carlos and other.

Kos

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I just wanted to extend my thanks you to everyone, this is awesome!

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Big thank you!

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

"Unfortunately it hasn't been possible to provide the new third party software, due to licensing constraints:
* Skype client support
* Adobe Flash browser plugin"

Without apology I ask: are there any underground hackers working on an alternate release with Skype client support and to h*** with "licensing constraints"?

Note: All I need is a No, or if Yes, a pointer to where these real hackers might be. Followups questioning my moral compass or heritage should be directed elsewhere....I suggest /dev/null but will discuss intellectual property issues on General.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

While the loss of the new Flash browser plugin is regrettable, the loss of Skype isn't as much since there IS a new beta of SIP/VoIP integration available.
That is, if it's compatible with this new HE version.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Anyone wishing to try Flash 9 on the latest IT OS 2007HE can download Flash 9 from here.

To install:

Close the browser then...

To uninstall (and revert to Flash 7):

Close the browser then...

Flash 9 kind of works in youtube - the plugin is correctly detected (previously with Flash 7, youtube.com would show an error message stating that Javascript is disabled or an old version of Flash is installed) however the video is garbled (at least it is on my 770). Flash advertisments on other sites seem to work fine.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

It's slated for maemo 4.0 (Chinook) which is also announced as a HE for the 770, so it's not impossible...

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

_______________________________
2007He2007.36 flash 2006OS MMC 1G

Step by step to take a look of the new 2007He.36. Warning, you are going to lose every installed sw and ALL your data on the 770. This is NOT the recommend way to updating, this is just to take a look see whether you like the new 2007He:

DL the 2007He.36.
1) make a backup of your system (mine is 2007He2006.47.17)
2) install Nokia ITT SW update wizard
3) flash the new He2007.36-2
4) restore your backup if you have He2006.47.17; answer NO when ask about reinstall your older library from your MMC
5) boot up; it restore ALL your websitesand your WEP routers. You do have to re-install all your favorite SW though.


Initial impression; GUI remains the same as the older He edition. This He edition correctly identify the device as 770 He edition instead of calling the device as N800. In several websites, it is eye blinking fast, for example, the tableer is loading faster than you can see the web page!

enjoy.

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Right now I have OS2006 installed. I do not want to disturb my OS2006 and I want to clean install this latest version of OS2007 in to my mmc (right now my mmc do not have any OS) and I want to dual boot between my OS2006 and OS2007.

I guess i didnt use good keyword to search. can some one point me to where it can help me doing this. I need a step by step instructions because I am newbie to Linux and N700.

Thanks in advance

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I'd like to add an addendum to the previous question..I'm one of the Nokia 770 noobs. I managed to dual boot so that 2006 is on the mmc card. But I know just enough to be dangerous with this thing. I was hoping someone could point me to instructions on how to install the new 2007he onto the mmc card. I'm assuming the flasher doesn't take into effect the multiple partitions. I just don't want to go pressing buttons and destroy the device.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Can't be done... your best bet would be to copy your OS 2006 install to MMC, then install OS 2007HE to internal flash. There's no way to install a new firmware direct to MMC without going via internal flash.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I have yet another possible scenario on my wish list :-)

Right now I have the latest OS2006 with double boot from internal flash (mostly unused) and 512 MB MMC (stock Nokia kernel).

I also have a 2GB MMC waiting for just this new 2007HE to appear...

So what I'd like to do is :

- keep my double-boot (Fanoush already reminded us how to do that),

- flash 2007HE to internal flash for a start,

- flash a new kernel to support 2GB MMC and faster speeds,

- transfer my FAT and ext2 partitions to the 2GB MMC so I can still double-boot between 2006 and 2007HE...

Is this doable by a normal human ? :-)

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

fpp - isn't the OS 2006 kernel also used in OS 2007HE? So you only need to flash the rootfs from OS 2007HE to your device (see Fanoush's earlier post) and keep the kernel with high speed support.

Try tar'ing your OS 2006 partition that you have on your 512MB MMC (with compression) and see if you can copy the archive off to your new card where you can restore it. As for FAT, just copy it via a PC.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

nope it possible but kind of complicated.

in short:

- you have to extract the rootfs from the fiasco image
- copy the jffs2 img to a virtual ram mtdblock
- make a tar
- extract tar to mmc

nokia 770 only used as a mmc card reader for the computer.

anyway I don't recommend that for newbie.

Kos

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I'm a tad out of touch and confused about these kernel issues, never having used the alternatives.

Ever since OS2005 I have just used the stock kernel that came with the latest Nokia image.

But to use my new 2GB MMC or get the faster speed (or maybe both ?), don't I have to also flash a modified kernel like Fanoush's this time ?...

Good tip, will try that, thanks.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

2GB has been supported by OS 2006 for the last two releases... to get the high-speed MMC support you need to flash your device with one of Fanoush's kernels. My understanding is that Fanoush's high-speed OS 2006 (3.2006.49-2) kernel should work with this release of OS 2007HE.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Thanks for the correction - what would be nice is a simple set of commands to extract the rootfs which hopefully newbies can follow. I'm assuming it would require mounting the jffs2 filesystem through a loppback or something similar.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Ummmm....I installed He2007.36-2, but the installed version under device is He 4.2007.26-8. Interesting...

bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I will try to put together a little how-to this weekend.

Kos

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I am at this moment trying to figure out a live CD or 'pendrive' linux solution so that I can run the linux flasher app. It would be nice if there was a way to make a FIASCO image which the windows-based flashing utility could use.

I've done the flash process and re-flash initfs and fast kernel twice now. Pain in the butt.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Default ubuntu install cd is also a live cd ... work nicely.

Kos

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Good old Knoppix does the job just fine.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Thanks for the clarification Mil - I really had the two issues mixed up.

So ideally I can just set up the complicated stuff without worrying about the kernel, then flash that afterwards just for the speed gain...

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

i'm trying this route now. I may revert to a boot from CD if I have to.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Do tell us if it works, I'd be interested. OTOH, despite several tries, I could never get the flasher to work from within a VMWare image of Ubuntu, while it seems that everyone else does...

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Just installed the new HE version, and I'm not all too impressed so far. Browser seems to crash fairly often, and neither Mplayer nor Maemo Mapper (the two apps I've installed) seem to work. Anyone else had better luck, or am I missing something here?

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Yes, someone recently provided guide for initfs which is similar, for rootfs you just need bigger mtdram, see
http://labs.vivi.eng.br/blog/?p=29

Also if you mount the MMC card directly in desktop linux you can skip the tar make/extract step and copy it on the fly from mounted rootfs directly to card (cloning via two tar's in a pipe could do this effectively too)

Also when we are talking about complex things not recommended for newbies the second (slightly insane) option is to do it directly on the device. You only need space on mmc card and already bootable system on mmc and one spare mmc partition for the result, steps are (in one go, no rebooting between)

- boot from mmc
- download firmware .bin to mmc card
- use http://nopcode.org/0xFFFF/?p=down to extract rootfs
- mount internal flash and make flashable backup via mkfs.jffs2
- unmount internal flash
- flash new HE rootfs via flash_eraseall + nandwrite (or 0xFFFF)
- mount internal flash (with new HE) , clone to spare mmc partition or make a tar backup
- unmount internal flash
- flash old backup via flash_eraseall + nandwrite (or 0xFFFF)

This uses internal flash as a temporary space. flash_eraseall + nandwrite + flashing script example (initfs_flash) is inside bootmenu initfs flasher.

This is only useful if you don't have anything but the N770. Using PC is much easier.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

So what would the steps and commands be if one were booting off the internal MMC and slapped in a fresh 2/4/8GB SDHC card in the external slot with the intent to setup the external card for booting into a new image/WM when placed in the internal slot?

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

gainroot does not work for me (talks about RD mode)
becomeroot asks for a password.

Any other suggestions?

Bob

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

I have to confess, I am also an immoral soul.........pls give us the flash........looks like Milhouse did just like that, thanks.

bun

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I couldn't get it to work in vmware and for some reason the qemu route doesn't see the internet.

I didn't have access to my wife's laptop yesterday, but now I do. I'll just boot the ubuntu cd on that.

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

MMapper loads and somewhat worked for 1.4.7-3 (N800 version) and loads and worked completely with 1.4.7-2 (770 version) under 2007He2007.36-2. I have NOT had one crash yet on the opera browser, I am sure it is going to show up somewhere, speedwise is a lot better. I only have to re-install the sw, the setting/set-up/config are nicely all restored without a glitch via backup/restore. I was able to connect online immediately from both my router and my treo without have to change a thing.

my installed sw version will be posted here, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=9282

-------------------------------------------------------------------
____________________________________
2007He2007.36-2 flash, 2006Os MMC on 1G


2007He2006.47 (old 2007He) 2007He2007.36-2 (new 2007He)
__________________________________________________ _____
AisleRiot solitaire ___?
Becomeroot _______.1-2 ______ same
canoe ____________0.2.0-1
flite ______________1.3________same
geoclue-status _____.2.2-1
gnumeric __________1.7.0-lindt3
gpe-calendar ______2.8+maemo-1 same
gpe-filemanager ____2.8+maemo-1 same
idea ______________1.0-n800 ____same
libsqlite0 __________2.8.17-2 _____same
libsqlite3-0 ________3.3.8-1 ______same
maemo-mapper ____1.4.7-2 ______same
mediacenter _______1.61
mediastreamer _____1.2-14
minimo ____________0.20.1______0.20.2
mplayer ___________1.0rc1-maemo.18.n770
openssh-server _____1.43p2-9.maemo3
osso-xterm ________0.13mh24bora1 same
proj ______________4.4.9-3 ______ same
python2.5-runtime __.4-12
sqlite3 ____________3.3.8-1
Vncviewer _________0.6 _________same


Above all tested and worked.


Google map worked flawlessly in 2007He Opera! You can see a pic of the utube, but not the video.

__________________________________________________ _________







bun

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

Look like initfs is not the same as OS 2006. From what I saw and from maemo wiki (http://maemo.org/community/wiki/os20...b17f7042bef87e) the new initfs is based on RX-34 initfs (n800). So watchout for those how only change the rootfs.

fanoush: any chance you can support this new hacker edition to your modified initfs ? :)

Thanks

Kos

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Runs very well for what I need. It is a 100% snappier and I am so glad that this finally out! :) Hope the development gets better so we don't have to wait so long for each release. Wish putting the cover on did the same thing it did on OS2006 though. Still no PAN though.

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_________________________________
2007He2007.36-2 flash 2006OS MMC 1G

First impression
===========
Extremely impressed with this recently released 2007He2007.36-2 version for the 770. The file manager is completely compatible with 2006OS. The prev 2007He (2006.47) version file manager can only read the name of the file, but not execute the file, e.g. you cant even delete the file if file was created under 2006OS and browse under 2007He (3rd party SW is case by case, spreadsheet yes to read but not ren or del, MM route/track cant even read. maps are the same though). For people that flip back and forth with 2007He2006.47 (old one), and 2006OS, like myself (I use 2006OS ONLY for video media, I use 2007He for everything else), I have to keep a copy for each OS, it is headache on management and it wasted tons of space. Now it is over, the new 2007He2007.36-2 does not have this problem. I immediately del dup copies and reclaim space. Space is v precious for a 1G MMC. And yes, 2006OS is able to execute/ren/del files created under 2007He2007.

The new 2007He employed 'similar' GUI as the old one. Some people expressed disappointment. I really dont care, GUI is just a skin, I can put on any skin I want. On a user level point of view (I know, not a double blind scientific comparision with p<.05 bla bla bla), opera browser is more stable, app installation is more smooth (I did not really check, I restore from my own backup, and re-install all the SW, did not encounter even one dependency problem, I am not quite sure, whether the restore or the new version takes care of the dependency problem.)

I use spreadsheet/calender for business, webserving for break/entertainment, video/music for leisure, the first 2 category have improved. Video remains to be try out, 2 out 3 aint bad.

Yes? I heard you, somebody is goin to ask that question "should I upgrade or should I stay with 2006OS?" If you use a lot video media, and HATE to switch, (this is a blatan lie, it is a re-boot, not a switch), between 2007He and 2006OS, I would stay with 2006OS. Other than that, I see absolutely NO reason not to upgrade. "the upgrade is painful", nay, if you always save a copy of the sw before installation, the re-installation is a piece of cake. As a matter of fact, I always format Harddrive and re-install SW every now and then, it is "healthier" and the system runs MUCH smoother in general, any OS or any PC.

bun:cool:

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No major problems here as of yet.

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when microb for 770 was announced it was mentioned that may be one should install hacker edition. I messed up my previous 2007HE with microb trials and do not want to do that again with the latest update, so my question is whether microb works with latest hacker edition

Re: OS2007 Hacker edition 4.2007.36 available
 

The first thing I installed after gaining root of the newly flashed 2007he is microb. No, the microb for 770 refuses to install, and the microb for N800 installs successfully but it screws up the browser (application error). Anybody has any success?