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CepiPerez 2015-12-15 22:10

Good bye Sailfish
 
Just want to say thanks to all users that supported me all these years.
My phone was stolen again and I'm not planning buy another one since there's no more support from Jolla.
It was a nice time, but it's time to move on.

Regards!

PS: Mods can move this thread to right section if you want.

endsormeans 2015-12-15 22:18

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Oh man...
my heart goes out to you cepiperez
that is really really really not a nice thing for anyone to do to another ..let alone this time of year...

itdoesntmatt 2015-12-15 22:25

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
and where are you moving, just to know?

coderus 2015-12-15 22:31

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
wtf, i know you worked on antitheft sw, what happened?

karlos devel 2015-12-15 22:46

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.....Que podemos hacer por bos cepiperez para que sigas en el desarrollo del PEZ VELA?

CepiPerez 2015-12-15 23:01

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1491613)
wtf, i know you worked on antitheft sw, what happened?

Well... it's installed in the phone. Now I need to wait for the thief to enable wifi (or mobile) connection.
Anyways, this guy is probably from some place where I can't go to get it back. The train I use for work is not a nice one.

HtheB 2015-12-15 23:17

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https://www.lovethisgif.com/uploaded...eling-down.gif

dirkvl 2015-12-15 23:18

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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a1232bc34e.jpg

Markkyboy 2015-12-15 23:43

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1491610)
Just want to say thanks to all users that supported me all these years.
My phone was stolen again and I'm not planning buy another one since there's no more support from Jolla.

That's shitty news Cepi!, sorry to hear that, again.

The Jolla phone is at its cheapest price right now and who says there is no more support from Jolla - is this something you actually know?, because as I see it, there is another software update release in the pipeline, said to be rolling out end of this week (we shall see of course) - will it be the last ever update?, I don't think so.

Intex Sailfish phones are also said to be going on sale in q1 2016 - there needs to be support for the new market. Yes, things look shaky at Jolla HQ, but the lights are still on and financial restructuring is said to be taking place.

Anyway, sorry to see you go, your software has always been a pleasure to use, from Symbian times, to N9 and now here on SFOS.

Good luck and perhaps change your job so you can stay off that shitty train!!

Regards,

strobovalo 2015-12-16 00:05

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
@cepiperez

Sorry for the news, hope some day your return (if jolla still exist), argentina is a hard place sometimes...

jem555 2015-12-16 00:14

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Hi cepiperez. It's such a pity... you did an excelent work for the comunity.
I'm from Argentina too. Where do you live? CABA or Prov.BsAs??

ibrakalifa 2015-12-16 01:10

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1491610)
Just want to say thanks to all users that supported me all these years.
My phone was stolen again and I'm not planning buy another one since there's no more support from Jolla.
It was a nice time, but it's time to move on.

Regards!

PS: Mods can move this thread to right section if you want.

revert back to MeeGo [hope]

CepiPerez 2015-12-16 01:37

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jem555 (Post 1491620)
Hi cepiperez. It's such a pity... you did an excelent work for the comunity.
I'm from Argentina too. Where do you live? CABA or Prov.BsAs??

Ramos Mejia, Prov. Bs. As. (viajo en el sarmiento)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1491624)
revert back to MeeGo [hope]

I don't have my n9. I gave it to my mother, then she helps me fixing my car, so I can't ask her for it.

itdoesntmatt 2015-12-16 08:51

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
so have you decided on what platform you will move?

ibrakalifa 2015-12-16 10:07

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1491625)
Ramos Mejia, Prov. Bs. As. (viajo en el sarmiento)

I don't have my n9. I gave it to my mother, then she helps me fixing my car, so I can't ask her for it.

Windows phone? Android? which one then?

velox 2015-12-16 10:44

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
So long and thanks for all the fish.

You'll be missed by people you've never even heard of. May your future hold (at the very least) a more safe way to work.

This might sound selfish (sailfish, hah – sorry), but would you consider "donating" FileCase/FlowPlayer to the Community by uploading it to GitHub? Even if no one's available to take over development, I guess there is a lot to learn from the sources for Newbies.

ste-phan 2015-12-16 12:00

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1491610)
Just want to say thanks to all users that supported me all these years.
My phone was stolen again and I'm not planning buy another one since there's no more support from Jolla.
It was a nice time, but it's time to move on.

Regards!

PS: Mods can move this thread to right section if you want.

Well experience that Saiflish stands or falls with the physical availability of this China hardware platform called Jolla phone..

As long as it is in our hand it is usable for thousands of people.

No more software support from Jolla is sad but it means more support needed from you.

I am still on 1.7.28 and after testing 2.0 preview I already decided that it was N900 / N9 all over again -sing it out with unsupported software- because of the road Jolla was apparently taking with their design choices.

Till my Jolla disintegrates (which of course it might do quicker than an N900) I hope t be running my applications.

Call recorder, Quasar MX, Jockr, Firefox, ...
I only need a few applications - and am allergic to app stores.

Will pay for something I like 10 fold of typical app price.

Maybe this is of no interest of serious developers but I just want to draw that however small, there is a market.

Who needs Jolla anyway? Jolla phone just works. It runs applications and has good battery life.

Where is the time that we would check our phone firmware with obscure codes and decide the other person was more lucky because his was more recent :D

peterleinchen 2015-12-16 15:01

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@cepi
This is not only a pity but a real bad luck for you personally and would be a big loss for this community.
So what if we start a fund raiser for a N9/Jolla for you?
We would need to know how to get that phone to Argentina, remembering last time's failure. ( how did you get your 'current' lost Jolla to your place?)

reinob 2015-12-16 15:04

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1491610)
My phone was stolen again and I'm not planning buy another one since there's no more support from Jolla.

Q1: How much would it cost you to get a new Jolla in Argentina?
Q2: do you have Paypal?
Q3: does anyone (HtheB) volunteer to be a Paypal-proxy (IBAN to Paypal) for me?

Cheers.

pichlo 2015-12-16 15:06

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Q3: I do! (However please check IBAN fees between DE and UK first)

EDIT: Provided I understand it correctly: you want to send IBAN to person X who would forward it via PayPal to Cepi. If I got it wrong, then please ignore this noise :o

peterleinchen 2015-12-16 15:12

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@reinob
generous as always! :)

HtheB will for sure act as proxy. ;)
I am afraid pichlos offer would include a fee (up to 20 but you may check with your bank). Else I can do so, too.

But first we will need some info from cepiperez.

tommo 2015-12-16 15:23

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I thought there was a problem with some stupidly high import taxes in Argentina ?

Halftux 2015-12-16 15:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1491704)
Q3: does anyone (HtheB) volunteer to be a Paypal-proxy (IBAN to Paypal) for me?
Cheers.

I have a bank account in Germany and I can forward the money to a bank account in Argentina or to a paypal account.

To a bank account would be eur->usd the rate would be roughly 1.09240 and no extra fees it will take 5 days.

hardy_magnus 2015-12-16 15:58

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
sorry to hear about your stolen phone cepi and I want to say goodbye sailfish too bcoz I had money for Jolla phone but I spent it on crapdroid. waited too long for Jolla successor but not any more.

ggabriel 2015-12-16 16:10

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
I can get things to Argentina from the UK through friends and family, but that depends on the time of the year of course. Things would usually arrive in CABA (or Capital for the old schoolers) so it would be a bit of commuting for Cepi to go pick it up, assuming he's still interested ;)

kinggo 2015-12-16 16:38

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
I also have a friend in UK and his wife is from Argentina and I believe they will go there in the next few months. They are coming here for Christmas so I'll ask.

HtheB 2015-12-16 19:25

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
CepiPerez, reading all these awesome great replies, it seems like you're not done with us (yet) ! :D

We need developers like you to keep on sailing!

reinob 2015-12-16 19:31

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1491717)
... so it would be a bit of commuting for Cepi to go pick it up ...

Hopefully not with that "sarmiento" train! :)

carepack 2015-12-16 21:35

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
why is everybody thinkin jolla will die?
cepi you need / want a jolla phone? or abandoned it always?

Copernicus 2015-12-16 22:01

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carepack (Post 1491762)
why is everybody thinkin jolla will die?

Well, basically, because they have (a) lost support from their investors, (b) laid off at least half their staff, and (c) started court proceedings to gain protection from their creditors. It does not look good... :(

ibrakalifa 2015-12-17 01:01

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
sigh i think we should give him a n9 rather than jolla, this is talk.maemo.org not a talk.jolla.org

gerbick 2015-12-17 01:04

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Why not both?

salyavin 2015-12-17 03:13

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1491773)
sigh i think we should give him a n9 rather than jolla, this is talk.maemo.org not a talk.jolla.org

If you're going to play it like that you should give him a n900 which runs maemo :p

HtheB 2015-12-17 03:15

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1491774)
Why not both?

gerbick for president!


Edit:
Quote:

Originally Posted by salyavin (Post 1491782)
If you're going to play it like that you should give him a n900 which runs maemo :p

N9 runs on Maemo as well...

salyavin 2015-12-17 03:21

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1491783)
Edit:


N9 runs on Maemo as well...

N9 runs Meego Harmattan due to that whole Intel thing that never went anywhere.
It should have been called a new version of Maemo though the graphical interface was quite different.

If you own an N9 go to the about device section.

HtheB 2015-12-17 04:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by salyavin (Post 1491784)
N9 runs Meego Harmattan due to that whole Intel thing that never went anywhere.
It should have been called a new version of Maemo though the graphical interface was quite different.

If you own an N9 go to the about device section.

Believe it or not, It's basically Maemo 6........
Just a different name.

Harmattan is just a code name like all other devices had (Maemo 5 was Fremantle)
Just to avoid conufsion, they just let MeeGo stay in the name.
MeeGo itself was RPM based, while the N9 is still Debian ;)

Here is a video that I recorded 3 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX6axn-Id_E

salyavin 2015-12-17 04:39

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Yes it is basically Maemo but it is not called Maemo as I myself stated. It is called Meego because of the whole Intel thing that never went anywhere. The gui is different in many ways from the old tablets and N900 we had.

I do agree the Intel "real" Meego was rpm based and didn't share much with N9 Meego which is deb and basically Maemo. The original plan was that the phones would go to the rpm based Meego and the devices would be more consistent but that never happened. I do wonder if that is part of the reason why Sailfish is rpm based, not sure but it would make sense.

Anyway point still stands get him an N900 if one wants to say because this site is called Maemo it should be a Maemo device.

Sad thing is this is at least the 2nd time his phone got stolen. I wonder why they target him, not like the Jolla is the highest end phone. You'd think they would grab iphones.

salyavin 2015-12-17 04:52

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Anyone working on a handcuffed to my arm TOH for Argentina?

ibrakalifa 2015-12-17 07:57

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by salyavin (Post 1491786)
Yes it is basically Maemo but it is not called Maemo as I myself stated. It is called Meego because of the whole Intel thing that never went anywhere. The gui is different in many ways from the old tablets and N900 we had.

I do agree the Intel "real" Meego was rpm based and didn't share much with N9 Meego which is deb and basically Maemo. The original plan was that the phones would go to the rpm based Meego and the devices would be more consistent but that never happened. I do wonder if that is part of the reason why Sailfish is rpm based, not sure but it would make sense.

Anyway point still stands get him an N900 if one wants to say because this site is called Maemo it should be a Maemo device.

Sad thing is this is at least the 2nd time his phone got stolen. I wonder why they target him, not like the Jolla is the highest end phone. You'd think they would grab iphones.

dont you get it, meego harmatan is maemo 6, and what abaout jolla? jolla mean maemo 7? lol

billranton 2015-12-17 08:04

Re: Good bye Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1491799)
dont you get it, meego harmatan is maemo 6, and what abaout jolla? jolla mean maemo 7? lol

If Sailfish could be considered a continuation of Maemo through Meego (Reloaded - Mer), then Sailfish 2.0 is Maemo 8. However I don't think Mer picked up the parts of Meego that made Harmattan trace a lineage from Maemo. The switch from deb to rpm is the white line round the corpse of Maemo...


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