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itdoesntmatt 2016-01-23 13:25

[app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Hi to all. Since whatsup seems to not work anymore and however android app seems to go in the direction of sharing our data with facebook to "improve our experience" i think we really need native alternatives.
We have Sailorgram, telegram client by DAX wich is very beautiful and is in active development. But i was wondering:

Telegram is very similar to whatsapp as UI and is very well done, with improvements over WA. Client side is open source, but the protocol isnt, even if the price for the one who will be able to get it broken is still there. So it is secure, but not transparent.
I think Signal Textsecure would be really the best way, and however a valid co alternative with Telegram.

This thread for having an idea of how much are really interested in this project, as users.
And moreover, to know if and who, among developers, is available and wants to spend his time for this project. (SailSecure)

thanks

itdoesntmatt 2016-01-23 13:29

Re: {app request} Signal- textsecure native client
 
https://github.com/janimo/textsecure-qml starting from here, maybe?

carepack 2016-01-23 15:50

Re: {app request} Signal- textsecure native client
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1496048)
https://github.com/janimo/textsecure-qml starting from here, maybe?

yep. a version for ubuntu phone on go/qml basis. now we need the a developer ;)

itdoesntmatt 2016-01-23 16:52

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
ok, let's hope someone join us!

tetris11_ 2016-01-24 12:02

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
damn excited about this - really hope it takes off!

KylliOrvokki 2016-01-24 13:04

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
It would be really nice to see TextSecure as native Sailfish app. I would use it. :)

tetris11_ 2016-01-24 23:06

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
If the front end's done, and a backend exists - what's really needed for this? Just a few scripts to mediate control between the two, no?

(I'm sure I'm oversimplifying)

nthn 2016-01-29 20:19

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Would be better integrated as part of the default Messages application by creating a Telepathy connection manager, that way it could theoretically also work on desktop applications like Empathy and whatever else makes use of Telepathy as its backend. Separate applications are ******ed if the option to have everything integrated exists. A native Sailfish OS application, not integrated in Messages, fixes nothing with regards to usability, the most it would be able to do would be to remove the need for the proprietary Android compatibility layer.

edit: why is 're​tard' censored, jesus

edit: also, unfortunately it isn't particularly easy to find whether anyone is actually working on something like this, considering the search results for "telepathy signal" aren't very technology-related, to put it lightly.

duesselschorsch 2016-01-29 20:28

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
I would love to have a native Signal/Textsecure messenger, I think it's cleaner than telegram or Threema and of course Whatsapp, since it's fully open and documented.
And yes, I would, like nthn, prefer to have it integrated into the messages application via telepathy (even if the messages framework on Sailfish OS would maybe have to be beefed up for pictures, media etc.)

Edit: for those who speak Go and want to port the Ubuntu thing, there seems to be a Go runtime for Jolla, here is a nice description:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...t=votes&page=1

tetris11_ 2016-01-30 11:48

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
wow! seriously good find, that is a great starting point!

itdoesntmatt 2016-02-10 23:16

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
https://github.com/whispersystems?page=1

here there are libraries and all source code of the project.

It is a starting point, since there is also a C library.

nthn 2016-04-28 08:38

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Well, all of a sudden there's two Signal clients for Sailfish:

https://github.com/aebruno/whisperfish

https://openrepos.net/content/schorsch/sailsecure

Unfortunately they're separate clients and not integrated into the Messages application (and of course a bunch of stuff is still missing from both clients), but at least it's something.

coderus 2016-04-28 09:02

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
integration to system means writing signal protocol as telepathy module, which requires a lot of extra efforts and knowledge. and i know only some persons who can really do that. so please go ahead and do system integration yourself :)

nthn 2016-04-28 11:20

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
I do appreciate it. Telepathy itself even needs a lot of work before Signal could work with it.

nodevel 2016-04-28 12:43

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
I think that the best chance for working Signal system integration is waiting for some Pidgin (libpurple) plugin to appear and try getting it to work through telepathy-haze.

Given its limitations on SailfishOS (only Messages chat), I am afraid that the resources put into a Telepathy plugin might be better used in a full 3rd party client. It'd be nice to have, though.

nthn 2016-04-28 18:54

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Then telepathy-haze would have to see an enormous upgrade as well, because it doesn't really work all that well.

carepack 2016-04-29 09:39

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
native version is available on openrepos. sailsecure. not system inzegrated but anyway. one android app less

rrunner64 2016-05-17 19:34

Whisperfish binary
 
There is now a binary RPM file available for Whisperfish at https://github.com/aebruno/whisperfish/releases

KylliOrvokki 2016-05-18 05:46

Re: Whisperfish binary
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rrunner64 (Post 1505669)
There is now a binary RPM file available for Whisperfish at https://github.com/aebruno/whisperfish/releases

Really cool!

Just tried to install it to Oneplus One with CM12.1 + Sailfish 2.0.0.10 but it did not appear in the applications. Any ideas?

tetris11_ 2016-05-18 07:53

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
I see an app on my Jolla.

It's pretty official looking interface, very fluid. Wish I had people to contact to actually test it on -- but really glad we're already at this stage!

KylliOrvokki 2016-08-26 10:46

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
I have been using v0.3.0 on Jolla-C and seems to work quite nicely.

Hopefully aebruno would continue whisperfish development.

mdosch 2016-08-29 10:30

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
I don't get the call with the verification code when trying to use Whisper. Did this work for you?

KylliOrvokki 2016-08-29 10:46

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Yes. I got the call.

Edit:
With v0.3.0 on Jolla-C

tealc 2017-02-21 14:48

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
moxie did just add support for using Signal without Play Services

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Si...roid/pull/5962

KylliOrvokki 2017-02-28 12:52

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Just noticed that there is new version on whisperfish.
https://github.com/aebruno/whisperfish/releases

KylliOrvokki 2017-11-21 07:04

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
New version seems to be available.

lancewex 2018-11-19 02:58

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Does this app still work? Would love to have a native app instead of the Android one.

nthn 2018-11-19 14:33

Re: [app request] Signal- textsecure native client
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lancewex (Post 1550897)
Does this app still work? Would love to have a native app instead of the Android one.

It does and works well. The only problem is you can't see your contacts, so unless you already know someone is using Signal, you're in the dark as to whether or not they will receive your messages. You can work around that, though, by linking it to the desktop client, which does show your contacts. The downside to that is that the desktop client is one of those stupid Electron applications.


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