Meizu Pro 5 with Ubuntu coming soon?
 

Leaked images show Ubuntu running on the Meizu Pro 5 :)

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Hell yeah!

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The main appealing feature the Ubuntu phone had that made me pledge during the indiegogo campaign, was the possibility to use the phone as a desktop (with a docking station). I haven't followed the latest developments, will this be a feature they are going to implement or is it already possible?

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It fast is becoming a reality - there are multiple videos on google+ of convergence on the nexus4 using what is known as the rc-proposed channel.The nexus4 device is MHL enabled and connectable to a monitor, thus it is best at showing where things are at. The more capable Mx4 lacks MHL 😞

Bq has announced a convergence 10" tablet for later this year.

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It's been confirmed now:
Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/02/...nches-globally

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Yup, this too is a convergence capable device, with video out....

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This can be the device that puts UT in the spotlights of the hands of real users, not only fanboys and devs. Competitive specs, great screen size that can compete with androidsiOS. Probobly OK price and above all shipment world wide.

Interesting!

Edit...seems that the first report was false :( not world wide.

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There is also some information's here :

- Say Hello To The Meizu PRO 5 Ubuntu Edition Smartphone - OMG! Ubuntu!

A++

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Hell, will we see a hwkb Ubuntu phone device ever? :P

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That is really a very impressive spec, especially for something not running a heavy Android VM. It doesn't look like it has any video out though, so I assume it won't be able to do the desktop-transformation thing.

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Hang on. I am catching up on things and it seems OMG-Ubuntu may have jumped the gun on the Mx5 Pro and convergence. Questions have been asked and info amended. Will add here later....

Later: It will have an usb-c connector and whether that can provide MHL depends on other hard-ware. And the phone likely will not have that. Bah, humbug!!!

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This finally looks like a possible alternative to the N900. i couldn't find any really opened device to work with until now and the N900's performance & memory are really beginning to be a problem for me...

as i understand it can fully run as root - no user per app thing - is that true?

any advantages for maemo compared to this version of ubuntu?

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modem specs? What bands?

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Maemo can multitask for one. Maemo also has more applications for it.

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See Is it possible to use Python with the Ubuntu SDK? I don't think that the current status is different:

pyqt might not be the best choice in terms of licensing commercial applications

And taken from the ubuntu-phone mailing list archive:

While PyOtherSide may work, it's not a supported language or platform for the Ubuntu SDK, so we can't guarantee that it will always work or work properly. I would encourage you to use Javascript instead of at all possible.

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Since Ubuntu also uses libhybris, the device will be a viable port for Sailfish. The onle problem for me are the 5.7" :)

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How is it with multitasking on Ubuntu Touch?

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Not that good. Not like jolla. But I think Samsung got the best multitasksolution right now even I know that many wont agree :D multiwindow and splitscreen is more important than true multitasking for the simple reason that the user can execute several tasks in parallel.

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something concrete? will ubuntu touch kill an inactive app as Android does and as N900/desktop not?

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can you explain? i couldn't find a source of info about this. does it use the annoying "application freeze" for saving battery of background applications like in android?

shouldn't it behave like in the desktop ubuntu?

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I am amazed it is 2016 and people still are surprised by this. Ubuntu Touch started as a multitasking OS, but they had hard time with optimization of the system (and still do, according to user experiences here on TMO), so they killed the multitasking pretty early in the day.

This blogpost by one of the developers sums up their attitude and it was published all the way back in 2013. The title "Running, Stopped, Killed? A user shouldn’t care" says it all.

I don't get why people think that Ubuntu Phone could be a replacement for N900. Jolla or N9 are not even close to replacing the N900, but are still light years ahead of Ubuntu Phone as a Maemo replacement, as they at least feature full multitasking, have the same roots (and a sane UI, but that's subjective).

Even BB10 is closer to Maemo than Ubuntu Phone in this sense.

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What about this hack?

http://askubuntu.com/questions/62937...p-ubuntu-would

However you can't drag the window around on the phone since the top bar of the window is hidden :D

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Yes, you can switch to windowed mode and multi-task sensu-stricto.

BUT, there is no swap at the moment, so you might get the backgrounded process killed due to OOM management, unless you fiddle "nice"ly. I am part guessing here but I do not see how this would not be the case.

The "user shouldn't care" comment is about plain vanilla phone users. Indeed, they shouldn't care in principle, if the phone provides what they are looking for. By and large it does (lamentable lack of apps aside). BUT there are some notable shortfalls: for eg. you can only capture a GPS trail by keeping the screen active, otherwise the app goes to suspend. Canonical devs are WELL aware of criticisms of this and the issue is discussed.

Thing is - and I believe people generally underestimate this point - the official dev team is pretty small and they struggle with the balance of delivering new features and bug fixing. At present, convergence gets most love and there are some VERY frustrating issues on the back-burner (Meizu (and BQ?) battery levels, anyone?).

This point is crucial if one's expectations of UT are to be realistic. What I don't know, is if and how Canonical are going to get that point across to prospective purchasers in order to be fair to them. The hype behind the state of readiness somewhat exceeds reality. Not by much but IMO enough to piss some (many?) buyers off. At least, that is what I saw in the previous round of (first) releases.

Go here and read if you will, the general tenor of exchanges between devs and between devs and power-users and the topics covered. Keep in mind that it is not a support forum.

One other thing: the inputs on the ubuntu forums about Ubuntu Touch are rather sparse and lacking. The forums seem not to have captured much interest of phone users.

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Guess i'll wait for the next jolla device...

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You can pre-order during MWC if you like: http://www.meizu.com/en/products/pro...u/summary.html

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Non-existent to pitiful.

Applications are freezed when they are not active. This includes when screensaver goes on.

I guess many people have the expectation it would behave like desktop Ubuntu. But it doesn't. The people responsible for this part of behavior have time and again used the "iOS does it like this and look how successfull it is" excuse. Ubuntu Touch is looking at copying iOS in many aspects because they see it as successfull and what users want and need, and there doesn't seem to be much room for trying to do some of these things better.

I've watched UT development from the start and participated in it. And many parts of it (not all, mind you) makes me feel like they're just content on copying iOS on many important aspects - an open-source version of iOS to simplify it.

Despite my seemingly scathing words I'd like to still empathize that it is still open-source - much more than SailfishOS for example. So even though they have made choices that I strongly detest, you could modify even those parts if you were determined enough.

So I do nevertheless support Ubuntu Touch and wish them well, even though at it's current state I see little reason to use it myself.

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I expect there are thousands of people who do not know Ubuntu Touch does not multitask like Ubuntu Desktop, it's not like it is prominently advertised. You hear the name Ubuntu you think typical desktop or server Linux and expect multitasking. I would expect some buyers may be disappointed who expect multitasking. Average joe phone buyer without Linux background and not being a power user may see it as like any other phone and not be bothered at all. Average joe phone buyer would instead be disappointed by the number of apps

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Yeah, their Phone looks OK nothing special. But have you seen the tablet. That is cool. You cant complain about the multitask...

Can only find spanish videos but go check it out...definitely got potential.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/b...hands-on-video

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Why not? That video showed nothing about multitasking. The best case scenario is that when tablet is docked it allows multitasking (and that's not enough at least for me). But even that is not given in the video shown.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the convergence potential given that video, but it told nothing about multitasking.

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So you don't think it's cool? What other tablets can do that, not that many. I think it's it's great first step and hope more OS and vendors will try the same or do it better.

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The true multitasking of a desktop OS is mandatory for me to replace my N900 - the absence of it makes ubuntu touch totally irrelevant - i might as well just buy an android phone.

I think i'll wait for the next jolla phone - hopefully it'll be better than the existing one in terms of resolution, memory, CPU and a larger external SD card support.

i wonder if their wireless chip supports monitor/sniffing mode.

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I think you are right. As an undocked tablet it will behave as does UT at the moment, unless you override and place it in windowed mode and then just OOM considerations apply.

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Well Jolla supports very large SD cards, mine has a 128GB in it, you just need to format it a format like ext4 or btrfs or install exfat fuse support. I use ext4 on my card. I suspect it can support up to 2TB. The reason they cannot advertise it is they did not pay a license to Microsoft for the exfat support as required by spec so they can only claim to suppor the fat32 cards and below.

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One comment on Android, if it is Google Android (play support and all that) there are privacy concerns so one thing Ubuntu Touch and Sailfish has is perhaps less tracking of everything you do. If that is interesting to you then that would be a reason to get UT over Google Android. That said you can of course get Android without all the Google stuff.

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Thanks for this insight,
- I was left wondering exactly this after using UT for awhile - if sailfish would be a viable alternative - and there is simply no way I would use something less open.
Ubuntu is a borked cadaver infested with webfarts
crawling around pretending to be actual programs,
but yes, apt-get on UT still works.
The only use for apt-get are console programs but that still beats nothing at all by a huge margin.
.
Still,
even then wiping Ubuntu Touch
and trying to shoehorn Nemo is beginning to seem to be
potentially more attractive than continuing to suffer this
suicidally depressive Ubuntu Touch.

A tablet with Ubuntu Touch sounds like a
cutting board with led background.
Useful, perhaps,
for chopping onions

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As of right now I see this tablet as the best option if you want to support something open-source, since Jolla failed big time with the tablet I don't exclect another try for a while and other OSes don't have the power to make a name to get enough support to make it work.

I don't get everything I want but atleast I get something. :D

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The price has been.announced http://http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/20...tion-buy-price

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Link is Broken. Its a scam?

Too many http for My tastes...

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Correct Link

A++

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If it can be set to dual/multi boot - Android/UT that would suite me. I caanot buy a tablet that does not support Minecraft PE... Sorry, I would not be forgiven.