Canonical to demo Ubuntu Touch on Sony, OnePlus and Fairphone
 

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I hope this comes to pass - viewing the Ubuntu Touch Ports wiki is a sad experience: the initial flush of enthusiasm soon faded, leaving precious few viable alternatives for your average tech competent user.

Fairphone with UT is tempting. The OS is progressing and Canonical developers do engage with the community and are WELL AWARE of the common gripes. Right now, we have what may be the best looking, heavily developed email client in mobile land (and it works a treat too).

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No dependencies ("apt-get install" doesn't work in read-only filesystem), no multi-tasking por common softwares, no softwares created with Python, etc. :(:mad:

Many developers complained about these issues since 2 years ago, but were not considered at all. Including me.

Re: Canonical to demo Ubuntu Touch on Sony, OnePlus and Fairphone
 

there is no multitasking, really?

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That seems to be the case, if you believe hundreds of reports on TMO and TJC.
I do, which is why I have stayed away from a UT device so far.

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it is true that common people arent interested in multitasking since they do one thing at time, but UT doesnt seems to be targeting masses, since its Ui/UX is different from IOS/Android/tizen UI

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feels like jolla demoing sailfish

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UbuntuPhone is based on libhybris. So thumbs-up for Ubuntu if they can share a working libhybris hardware adaptation for SailfishOS to use. :)

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I think that the belief that the common individ. isn't interested in multitasking is the biggest load of hooey in the world.
Show me one teenager ...throughout the ages...who wasn't listening to music, watching tv, playing a game (of some kind), talking to their friends (and / or texting) , surfing the web (nowadays) and doing their homework all at the same time....

And that is just teens...

I'm no teen .. but I know that I tend to have more than one process, program or application running at the same time..
reading a book and listening to music...etc.

This belief that no one wants multitasking is beyond buffoonery ...
It isn't that people don't want multitasking...or they aren't screaming for it...
They populace are expecting multitasking as a "de facto" (or matter of fact)...they don't have to voice it...it is an expectation from the technology...

Just wait for the 1st review of it running...
doing something on device ...then ...what the hell...incoming call...message...email...whatever...I'm guessing that answering that call (or whatever) while doing something else constitutes multitasking...so said program shuts down ...to answer the call...
and that to me...that sucks..big giant testicles ..

I've been doing some reading for a bit on the new Ubuntu phone...
and what it "can" do in multitasking results in heating up stupidly ...and draining the battery ridiculously ...(even while in sleep mode) after such usage..

I would love a device which is part of an iot ..so my laptop could run the same as what is on my phone or tv...or sync everything together..but ubuntu phone isn't ready just yet...
I think they're close ...but not quite yet.

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Sadly yes. The mobile/tablet landscape is not much different from the early 2000's who realised they had a use for a computer and that was what they wanted to do.

A big part of the reason why PC sales are declining, is not because they are bad in anyway. PC geeks are still buying and making their own, but those who had no other choice but to buy a PC now have a plethora of devices to chose from that can excel in a way that is simplistic enough for the activity they choose.

People are not geeks, we are the geeks. We live in a world of consumers where people ask “what can this thing do for me” and not “what can I make this do?”.

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You are so very correct,

but
there does exist a very real and not so very small
linux power-user market segment.

And we might rephrase your observations:
(google also "CODE 53")

“Did you sell it to us or is this just a trick to get your hands in my pockets ?”
With Ubuntu I have some serious doubts.
They have an agenda that orbits around a very 'top-down' attitude.

I just checked Handaxe's comment about the email client,
(after deleting it months ago I reinstalled it to see,
now - ver 6 on OTA-9 on BQ's E5 )
and DEKKO remains a 25MB! steaming pile of rancid swine tripe filler.
23 MB of that is a copy and pasted binary,
managed by a swarm of qml statements
(you can, redeemingly, see the source code on github)
claws-mail (apt-get installed) is only 2631276 bytes. go figure

And with the way it is being developed Dekko will remain such
until hell itself freezes over permanently.
The latest version fixes dozens of lipstick issues and
leaves the configuration multi-fail abortion in purgatory.
This app should be a textbook example of top-down fail.
How they keep the Dekko name is a mystery.
Dekkosecure.com looks to be selling email clients as well
and I would anticipate some friction there if they are not joined at the hip.

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I'm constantly bugged by people's use of the word "multitasking" to refer to things it really bears no relationship with.

I'd say pretty much all modern devices that are usable at all support multitasking.

Proof; ssh to your device or open a console and type "ps aux"
What do you see?

If the device UI & launcher supports only some braindead notion of interaction model, well do you have to live with it, huh?

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@juiceme, multitasking means literally, "performing several tasks simultaneously". A device that allows me to do that can be said to "support multitasking". A device that does not, can't. Why should I, as a user, care if the device itself can run mutiple processes if it does not allow me to do that?

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Why should you care to use a device which by itself can perform multiple tasks but is artifically limiting your ability to use it as you please?

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I don't ;)