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marmistrz

2016-08-09 18:32

Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Do you know any tips & tricks which would be useful for a Nokia N9 used by an elderly person or improve their experience of using the device?

juiceme

2016-08-09 18:49

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Enlarge all fonts, maybe?

marmistrz

2016-08-09 18:51

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1512156)

Enlarge all fonts, maybe?

Is there any easier way than this? http://nokiamobileblog.com/how-to-in...your-nokia-n9/

juiceme

2016-08-09 18:56

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1512157)

Is there any easier way than this? http://nokiamobileblog.com/how-to-in...your-nokia-n9/

Well, that's how I did it.

prosper

2016-08-10 11:06

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

A few hints come to my mind:

- MyMoves by Topi Santakivi lets you launch predefined applications by using gestures

- N9QTweak option to change the icons grid (from default 4 columns to let's say 3 larger ones)

- N9QTweak option to boost the sound volume from default 66% to 100%

- Easy Answer - "When you receive a call, just raise the phone to your ear and it will be answered automatically. When you're done, simply shake the phone to end the call."

marmistrz

2016-08-10 14:12

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Thanks for the replies.

What about the Internet connection? The way Harmattan handles them is quirky even to me, so it will probably be even more quirky to the elderly person. They don't need to be online 24/7, I'd say they'll enable the connection rather on-demand.

It's more complicated than the primitive Android-style on/off toggle, still not so clear and simple as the Fremantle settings.

Unless one disconnects manually, the connection is being used automatically whenever needed. Still, once one disconnects, the connection is never used automatically. Is it possible to make all the connections be either used manually or automatically?

peterleinchen

2016-08-10 14:27

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

You will need to script something changing the gconf value for the/all connections and put it as icon on home screen.

But I use my WiFi as automatically (at home always online) and my GPRS connection as manual.
Whenever I am abroad and some app (mail/browser requests online demand, triggered by me) a popup appears to choose the possible internet connection.

marmistrz

2016-08-10 14:48

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1512231)

But being always online will drain the battery. And when the user uses Internet once or twice a day - I guess it's useless to have the WiFi always on.

Is it possible to trigger a script whenever the device has connected to a network? On desktop we have the NetworkManager dispatcher

rolh	2016-08-10 15:12

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1512233)

I use a similar configuration as described by peterleinchen: Automatic WiFi at home and work (probably like 12-16h/day) and manual 3G. Additionally, I switch to power saving mode during the night (there's a Toggle PSM script available).

From my experience, this setup is not very hard on the battery -- I still get roughly 2.5-3 days on one charge on my > 4 years old N9 (daily driver). But then again, I don't get/make too many calls.

robthebold

2016-08-10 15:16

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1512233)

Is it possible to trigger a script whenever the device has connected to a network? On desktop we have the NetworkManager dispatcher

You could try ProfileMatic, use a WLAN condition and custom action when connected.

MMC	2016-08-10 16:38

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

In my opinion (based on my continuous experience) hardly any touch smartphone is suitable for elderly person older than 70 (may be 75, it depends...). For elderly person it's quite difficult even to touch the display in the right place with the right strength, to swipe, to avoid unwanted touches, to use virtual keyboard (N9 has quite small LCD and thus also small virtual keyboard) etc. Much more better is any dumbphone with big and enough spaced physical buttons with big letters/numbers and good tactile feedback. Also:
- dumbphone lasts daaaaaaaaaaays before the charger is needed, i.e. no need to remember to charge every (second) day + mind also that connecting the charger may be quite difficult for elderly person particulary using the ***** micro USB (solution may be a charging/docking station) + opening the N9 micro USB door must be nightmare for elderly people
- dumbphone is usually much more shockproof (yes, elderly people unintentionally drop things on the floor) and spare LCDs and other spares are much more cheaper and are usually quickly and easy replaceable
- dumbphone software is usaually much more foolproof, no unwanted silent mode or flight mode, no weird problems and no need to ask anybody to solve it. I really like my N9 but sometimes something really weird occurs and it's necessary to find the solution.

Also, the old resistive touch LCDs may be better for elderly person, because more strength is needed (i.e. less unwanted touches) and also the nail can be used for touching the screen. Good trade-off may also be old Nokia "touch&type" devices having both resistive LCD and physical keyboard (but with small numbers and letters...).

Just mi point of view, being some kind of telco consultant/serviceman for more elderly people in my family for years :-)

marmistrz

2016-08-10 20:24

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC (Post 1512244)

In my opinion (based on my continuous experience) hardly any touch smartphone is suitable for elderly person older than 70 (may be 75, it depends...).

Hardly any >70yrs person uses Internet :) and the person we're talking about does :)
They can always go back to the dumbphone if they don't like it.

Being the family's technical support: that's my case too :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by robthebold (Post 1512238)

You could try ProfileMatic, use a WLAN condition and custom action when connected.

From the ProfileMatic OP

Quote:

PR1.3: Condition: "Internet connection" does not work if either "Allow background connections" is off, or "Power Saving mode" is on. This seems to be N9 platform bug.

Win7Mac

2016-08-10 21:15

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1512231)

You will need to script something changing the gconf value for the/all connections and put it as icon on home screen.

I'm totally fine with simply setting "energy save mode" ON in Settings > Phone > Battery and all connections required open and close upon app-request, at least it does for me, not using any PM or cloud services though (unless the charger gets connected, then everything fires up...).

Profilematic is definetely something you should check, it has huge potential ~~(possibly inform you if this or that)~~.
Worst case you can create scan tags for her to put here and there... :D

EDIT 1: need to check app behaviour too then, ofc.

EDIT 2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1512261)

From the ProfileMatic OP

Quote:

PR1.3: Condition: "Internet connection" does not work if either "Allow background connections" is off, or "Power Saving mode" is on. This seems to be N9 platform bug.

Awkward, missed that.

otsaloma

2016-08-10 23:15

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

If I remember correctly, many apps on N9 don't support landscape and the screen is such small that the portrait keyboard is quite difficult to type on. No tips or tricks to offer, but it might be a deal-breaker.

mscion

2016-08-11 04:14

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Although for Android this article might give you some useful ideas...

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/larger-...ly-tech-savvy/

marmistrz

2016-08-11 16:15

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

As far as I see, either wlancond or wps_ui is responsible for showing up the connection prompt.

Can we modify the dbus configuration, so that when a dbus signal is sent to com.nokia.wlancond a script is run?

robthebold

2016-08-11 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1512324)

You can add a dbus listener (in Python with add_signal_receiver) with a script like this:

Code:

#!/usr/bin/env python



import gobject, dbus

from dbus.mainloop.glib import DBusGMainLoop

 

#def handle_sms(sendernumber):

#    print 'Got New Message.'

#    print 'New message from %s' % sendernumber



def handle_sms2(event):

    print 'Got new event.'

#    print 'New event message %s' % event

    print 'First event element %s' % event[0][0]

    print 'First event element date  %d %d %d' % event[0][2][0]

    print 'First event phone number %s' % event[0][12]

    print 'First event message %s' % event[0][15]

 

print 'Setting up listener . . .'

DBusGMainLoop(set_as_default=True)

print 'Getting System Bus . . .'

#Aha, needs to be SessionBus on N9 see https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95876

bus = dbus.SessionBus()

#print 'Adding signal receiver . . .'

#bus.add_signal_receiver(handle_sms, path='/org/freedesktop/Telepathy/Connection/ring/tel/ring/text30', dbus_interface='org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Channel.Interface.Messages', signal_name='MessageReceived')

print 'Adding event receiver . . .'

bus.add_signal_receiver(handle_sms2, path='/CommHistoryModel', dbus_interface='com.nokia.commhistory', signal_name='eventsAdded')

print 'Running main loop'

gobject.MainLoop().run()

print 'done'

Excuse the dust, this is a WIP that's never been cleaned up. Really just proves the concept that I can receive and do something with a received SMS.

It does not prevent other processes from getting that message. In this case, SMSs are still processed normally.

Win7Mac

2016-08-17 15:31

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1512157)

Is there any easier way than this? http://nokiamobileblog.com/how-to-in...your-nokia-n9/

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1512160)

Well, that's how I did it.

That article was updated with

Quote:

My messaging application has been crashing after I increased the font size, so I had to flash back in order to read some text messages I could not open.

So how exactly to proceed here without bricking the N9?

aspergerguy

2016-08-17 17:18

Re: Nokia N9 for an elderly person

Quote:

Originally Posted by Win7Mac (Post 1512790)

So how exactly to proceed here without bricking the N9?

What about via QuickTweak?
https://nokiaindependent.wordpress.c...ssages-app-n9/

R = Conversation MOD Option 3 Enlarge/Restore conversation font size

Original TMO:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80600

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