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juiceme 2016-09-11 08:52

Harbour access of ported devices
 
It really looks I'll have to keep my Jolla sbj1 forever in reserve even as I have switched using ported Nexus5 as daily driver...
I had thought of selling or donating it but it seems I just cannot.

Since the Nexus only sees a limitd selection on Harbour (just the same 16 apps always, never more) I need to first download anything new with sbj1 and only after that I can install them to Nexus with pkcon/zypper... :(

I understand the core reasoning; Jolla cannot allow ported devices free access to Store since it is about the only proprietary part they have and using it is good for the licencing deals.
However it would be nice if those users that have registered their Jolla account with a genuine device could access it with ported devices too.

kuba77 2016-09-11 10:35

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
I had this problem on Nexus 4 but not anymore. Since this week I have access to Store and there is all apps not only 16 like before :).

juiceme 2016-09-11 10:51

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
I wnder if there is anything that can be done on the device side to enable that, refreshing of repositories or something...?

coderus 2016-09-11 11:19

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Peoples says reactivating jolla account helps.

kuba77 2016-09-11 11:39

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
No, I don't change anything.

Feathers McGraw 2016-09-11 16:28

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
The store works fine on Fairphone 2, maybe ask Mal- what he did to get it working?

mautz 2016-09-12 10:29

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Since i barely use the jolla store i checked it after reading this thread. It displayed only a few apps. I solved this by starting the terminal app and checked the enabled repos with

ssu lr

The store repo was missing, i enabled it with

ssu ar store

and refreshed the repos with

pkcon refresh

and now all the apps are back.

juiceme 2016-09-12 10:59

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1514834)
Peoples says reactivating jolla account helps.

Unfortunately it dose not work for me.

Whay I did is;
  • 1.) remove Jolla account from settings->accounts
  • 2.) wait about 15 minutes in case there are background processes that need to do some cleanup
  • 3.) recreate my account in settings

No change in store access, can still see just the same 16 apps, nothing more.

explit 2016-09-12 12:01

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1514863)
The store works fine on Fairphone 2, maybe ask Mal- what he did to get it working?

We had the same Problem on FP for about 1 month

Jolla has solved it....

juiceme 2016-09-13 09:53

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Allright, it has been solved now!

Thousand thanks to @sledges & @pketo who fixed it; now my Nexus5 sees all the applications in the store! :D

How it happened; it seems that the store has already been open for all ported Nexus4, Nexus5 and Fairphone2 devices, however when the store backend was updated some time ago there was a regression that blocked the Nexus5 devices off. Now that bug in configuration has been resolved and Nexus5 users can access Harbour again.

lfc22 2016-09-13 21:00

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
How about opx (onyx)? It's similar to FP2 in terms of feature set enabled. Who to appeal to to enable store access?

juiceme 2016-09-14 03:23

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lfc22 (Post 1515005)
How about opx (onyx)? It's similar to FP2 in terms of feature set enabled. Who to appeal to to enable store access?

Go to #sfos-porters on freenet and ask around. The people there will be able to help you. :)

r0kk3rz 2016-09-14 11:17

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1515008)
Go to #sfos-porters on freenet and ask around. The people there will be able to help you. :)

#sailfishos-porters ask for kimmoli as he is the porter of that device

lfc22 2016-09-14 23:16

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1515017)
#sailfishos-porters ask for kimmoli as he is the porter of that device

kimmoli is the porter, yes, but I'm asking about enabling access to Harbour, which also requires an account. That is not really up to him is it? My understanding is this is up to jolla staff to approve.

Am I missing something?

juiceme 2016-09-15 07:52

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lfc22 (Post 1515044)
My understanding is this is up to jolla staff to approve.

You are correct in that assumption. :)

r0kk3rz 2016-09-15 08:15

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lfc22 (Post 1515044)
kimmoli is the porter, yes, but I'm asking about enabling access to Harbour, which also requires an account. That is not really up to him is it? My understanding is this is up to jolla staff to approve.

Am I missing something?

Its a bit of both really, its up to the porter to make sure things are set up for the port on OBS, but obviously the store backend stuff is up to jolla peoples like pketo and lbt.

elros34 2016-09-15 09:55

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
I asked sledges about situation 2 days ago and nothing changed about status of the rest of devices: store for other devices is on hold for/since months and we need to wait for official announcement.
nexus 4/5/fp2 was enabled manually.

explit 2016-12-11 16:21

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
On the OPX Jolla Store works now. All Apps visible

Bundyo 2016-12-11 19:34

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Finally! :)

piggz 2016-12-11 21:32

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Seems to work on Falcon too!

robthebold 2016-12-12 01:59

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
And Bacon (aka the OnePlus One)!

The zendesk reply I got a couple weeks ago made it sound like they'd never stoop so low.

So yeah and yahoo! Don't know if it will make a big difference for me, but I couldn't even know that before without knowing what's in the store . . .

kimmoli 2016-12-12 09:59

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
It works yes, there is supposed to be an official announcement on TJC later this week.

AFAIU there should be more information about device models and UIDs and whatnot.

m4r0v3r 2016-12-12 10:34

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
you can download the app on your jolla and copy over the rpm

juiceme 2016-12-12 12:52

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1520433)
you can download the app on your jolla and copy over the rpm

That has of course always been the case, but there are numerous people who only have a ported SFOS device; This is a remarkable improvement for those people.

Feathers McGraw 2016-12-12 14:12

Re: Harbour access of ported devices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1520435)
That has of course always been the case, but there are numerous people who only have a ported SFOS device; This is a remarkable improvement for those people.

It's definitely good news, but... I think it says a lot that the most interesting/useful apps are not permitted in the store and can only be found on openrepos! I can see why this has happened, but it's a shame Jolla doesn't have the resources to vet a few of these apps and add permit them in the store. A lot of the usefulness of having a pocket linux device is negated by having such restrictions.

Allowing apps to start a user service would be a nice change, Jolla could write a settings module to control them all from one place, or do some trickery so that running user services have an always visible cover etc to make it more obvious. If they did this, you'd instantly get a bunch more useful apps like Rockpool in the official store, and some other apps like Hangish could run a background service instead of needing to be started manually/always open (really annoying with OOM killer on Jolla 1).


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