Sales number for Aqua Fish
 

Hello fellow TMOers,

I stumbled across a web page for India's import and export. When you search for the Intex Aqua fish you get interesting results:

https://www.zauba.com/import-aqua-fi...s-hs-code.html

According to their database it seems that 20 000 units of Intex aqua fish were imported from China to India in 5 batches. I would have guessed that its more than that, but well, it's a start!

Disclaimer:
I don't know whether the numbers are legitimate, correct, complete, accurate and/or up to date, but still - interesting enough to share and good starting poiunt for a discussion :rolleyes:

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Well it's the fact that is not easily available worldwide and not through even the official promised shop Snapdeal.

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Unfortunately interest is slowing down, it looks like they split the last 5000 batch in two. The per unit value is decreasing a bit too.

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I don't think that the splitting of the batches is related to the interest: The first four batches were delivered before the release date and the last (small) batch less than a month later.
If the first four batches (18800 mobiles) would have been gone so quickly Intex would definitely order more than just another 1200 mobiles. I rather guess that the 20 000 phones was an initial order and that the splitting of batches was done because of other reasons (e.g. production time plans). If the assumptions (and data) are correct than Intex expected to sell at least 20 000 phones (initial order) and those 20 000 are not sold out yet (no re-import until now).


I think the decreasing per unit value is a consequence of volatile currencies. Probably the price was fixed in USD and since June the USD lost a little against the Indian Rupee.

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Oh yes, of course. Lack of availability. An unfinished OS, buggy core apps with missing features and non-existent ecosystem have absolutely nothing to do with it.

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Very true, unfortunately progress in those areas is painfully slow and that hurts. It is also understandable the limitation of resources, meanwhile tho competitors are catching up quickly, e.g. iphone with no button, split screen on android, swipe gesture, etc.

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Is this a scam? Seems pretty cheap. Still wouldn't buy as LTE won't likely work in US.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intex-Aqua-F...3D121245551930

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Why do you think it's a scam? Only thing which probably isn't correct is the item location (Florida). Most probably the phone will be shipped form India, as the seller is based there. The price for the Aqua Fish is around 75 USD in India, so 130 USD + shipping isn't even that cheap.

Indian based ebay seller "lowpriceshopee" for example offers the phone for 82USD + shipping. A big minus: Only payment option is Paisabay, which can be troublesome for non-Indians. Until two weeks ago he had the same offer with PayPal as payment option, no idea why he stopped. According to this list International shipping works well, at least for non-Germans. (And no reports from US-residents until now :) )

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Ok. Didn't realize you could get for such a low price in India. Guess the specs are a little on the low end but still seems like a bargan. I would definately buy one if LTE worked in US. Wonder what comparable android phone you could get for $75 in India. How much are iphones there?

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It's like in most emerging markets: You can find really really cheap phones from unknown/local companies, but "premium" phones (e.g. Iphone) are usually even more expensive than in the US or in Europe. In India Android phones start at less than 30 USD (Aqua G2 *) ) and 75 USD can get you a comparable Intex Android phone in terms of specs. And yes, specs are on the low side and Intex saved money wherever possible (no compass, one-colored LED, no scratch-resistive screen). Still, overall build quality is said to be OK. Therefore same with me: If it wasn't for the "wrong" LTE bands I woul definitely buy one.

*) Not sure wether this "thing" qualifies as an Android phone. I am amazed that you can even find suppliers for such shitty components (0,3 Megapixel cameras e.g.) in 2016

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The benefit of Google and similar search engines is that one does not have to ask such questions ;)

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Yes, but why do I need google if I have pichlo!

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Just wild guessing on my side, but I have another theory on the low price:

I compared the declared per unit value (found on zauba.com) of different Intex phones to their list price published on intex.in
For the six phones I looked at the surplus of list price compared to per unit value (CIF/CNF price) is between 78% (Aqua Music) and 99% (Aqua Q7N Pro). The surplus for the Aqua Fish is 13% only. It looks like the pricing for the Aqua Fish is extra competitive (maybe a subsidy from Jolla or Intex or both to accelerate market penetration?).

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The lack of popular official social networking apps on sailfish platform makes me not want to buy it after jolla phone.

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That luck of support is mainly due to the policy most social networking apps have, e.g. SFOS initially was supporting FB messenger directly, it was FB that changed the API and support then was dropped.

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Reasons are irrelevant to those who want or need such services. The simple fact is, device A provides feature X, device B does not. Users have two options: get device A or manage without feature X. My preferred choice is the latter but I can hardly blame youmeego and others who go for the former.

If you are the supplier of device B and want to attract customers who want or need feature X, it is your job to make sure your device provides it. Otherwise you lose those customers. Simples. Blaming the provider of feature X is nothing but excuses.

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Indeed, this boils down to 2 facts in general;

• Those companies do not see it worthwhile to create applications to niche platforms; basically all you ever are going to get is official support for Android and iOS; all the others (SFOS, WP, Tizen, whatever) are considered as not relevant.
• At the same time the said companies do not publish open API's to enable independent developers to create the applications. Instead they try to make it especially difficult to reverse-engineer and figure out how to connect to their services.

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Sure, but that's just a longer way of saying what pagis said. It does not change the simple fact that if you "absolutely need" such a service, SFOS is not for you.

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Im using FB on a daily basis with no issues on a Jolla C (browser).
Sure, the browser still has a long way to go, but at least FB is usable (on the contrary of Linkedin, but meh to Linkedin anyways).

Anyways, this is cool data, it appears there was no shipping in september tho. That sucks.

Compare it with other models (for instance replace the search terms with "intex aqua hd 5 5 with valid imei nos" ). Not bad, but still not pushing anymore?

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The source appears correct. Aqua Fish phones are now "sold out" at both Snapdeal and Flipkart, Ebay still sells. So better hurry, if one likes to get one. I got mine just before my N9 fell down and went blank.